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<stavros> is it normal that content that's pinned on my daemon takes a while to be returned?
<rovdyl> shouldn't be, unless you have a slow connection to your daemon
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<stavros> nope, hmm
<stavros> i'll try some more, thanks
<rovdyl> unless it's pinned but not actually downloaded yet, if that's possible
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<stavros> no, it was added to ipfs from that host
<rovdyl> yeah then it should be pretty fast
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<charlienyc[m]> What's the bandwidth overhead like?
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<charlienyc[m]> Like, if the wiki is 10GB, how much data will I use in total?
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<rovdyl> yeah I'm not sure, there's probably also a certain amount of unrelated, general ipfs traffic
<rovdyl> someone should measure it
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<SchrodingersScat> x10
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<charlienyc[m]> Bummer.
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: around
<kevina> see latest comment on https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/3575
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<kpcyrd> what's sbs?
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<Quiark_> hi, I can't open the wiki snapshot over local gateway. I use the same URL format as the ipfs.io gateway :\
<Quiark_> ipfs ls /ipfs/QmT5NvUtoM5nWFfrQdVrFtvGfKFmG7AHE8P34isapyhCxX works
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<Kubuxu> kpcyrd: see ipfs/go-sbs
<kpcyrd> Kubuxu: thanks
<kpcyrd> static block store :)
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<Kubuxu> a format allowing us to stop dealing with filesystems
<Quiark_> I'm getting 'no link named "wiki" under QmT5N...'
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<Kubuxu> Quiark_: update ipfs
<Quiark_> ipfs 0.4.8
<Kubuxu> it should work with it, hmm
<Kubuxu> update to 0.4.9-rc2 either way, interesting
<TUSF> Yeah, I'm getting an error message on 0.4.8 for that page
<TUSF> "unrecognized node type"
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<Quiark_> Kubuxu, ooo 0.4.9-rc2 works
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<NeoTeo> :TUSF Kubuxu I can confirm the 0.4.8 issue. Also working fine on 0.4.9-rc2
<Kubuxu> right, we fixed gateway sharding handling in 0.4.9
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<NeoTeo> 👍
<NeoTeo> Is there a hash for the English wiki yet?
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<Kubuxu> NeoTeo: no, Kurdish and Arabic go first, and OVH is slacking off with setting up a new box for me.
<NeoTeo> :) ok
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<Kubuxu> Doing it and then creating search index requires a lot of IOPs so I ordered 2x1.2T NVME box.
<Kubuxu> but they are delivering it since Friday.
<NeoTeo> Yeah, not a job for a Raspberry Pi.
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<kitten[m]> wrong chat! My bad!
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<charlienyc[m]> 200k nodes. 500k left
<charlienyc[m]> Two. More. Days.
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<Mateon1> Why am I getting 600kB/s of download through IPFS, even though I am not requesting anything?
<Mateon1> That seems insane for DHT chatter
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<Mateon1> Wow, /ipfs/kad/1.0.0 RateIn 479 kB/s
<Mateon1> That doesn't seem normal
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<charlienyc[m]> `couldnt open sender again after SendMsg failed: dial attempt failed.`
<charlienyc[m]> But not other network problems
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<Kubuxu> Mateon1: if that bothers you, you can switch to --routing=dhtclient
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<charlienyc[m]> Kubuxu: pinning now. What's the word on setting up exit nodes? Lgierth mentioned using cjdns in case a vps goes down
<charlienyc[m]> I have about 2 weeks left here to make a usable/replicable pi image and get it into the hands of people who will use it
<Mateon1> Kubuxu: That kinda bothers me, as that is 30% of my total bandwidth*, but I don't want to weaken the IPFS network
<Kubuxu> Mateon1: don't worry about it, one person won't change anything (I think).
<Kubuxu> we have to solve this issue in a real way too
<Mateon1> *total advertised bandwidth, it should be 30Mbps, but that's the peak performance. If I keep high upload it drops to as low as 10Mbps
<Mateon1> So, basically all my bandwidth
<Kubuxu> disable routing during downloading big stuff
<Kubuxu> we have to make it so it is possible to fetch without advertising right away
<charlienyc[m]> I have found that using a VPN hampers their ability to throttle
<Kubuxu> charlienyc[m]: To clone it fast, `ipfs init` and copy `.ipfs/blocks`.
<charlienyc[m]> Can you just send an email?
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<charlienyc[m]> I will lose it in all these chat rooms
<charlienyc[m]> Please and thank you
<charlienyc[m]> Doesn't have to be today. I have 2 days before I get my bandwidth back
<Kubuxu> (sorry that IPFS is BW hungry right now).
<charlienyc[m]> No problem. My bandwidth is awful
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<trqx> I never had much problem with IPFS besides out of memory errors on my VPS
<trqx> but it does not seem to really work on my rpi3
<trqx> I had to enable NoSync in order not to have errors (possibly because my ipfs folder is on a NAS)
<trqx> yesterday night I tried to pin the turkish wikipedia
<Kubuxu> there are many many perf improvements to be made in ipfs
<trqx> using routing=none
<Kubuxu> yeah NoSync in case of NAS or even SD Flash is must have
<Kubuxu> how did it go?
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<trqx> ok
<trqx> well without routing=none all cpus were at 100%
<Kubuxu> With routing none you have to manually connect to nodes having this data.
<Kubuxu> Yeah, it was hashing.
<trqx> it downloaded some data during the night
<trqx> but now
<trqx> ipfs stats bw gives: https://0x1A4.1337.cx/y-Pv
<Kubuxu> can you run `openssl speed sha256` on RPi3
<Kubuxu> `ipfs bitswap wantlist`
<trqx> https://0x1a4.1337.cx/q2Yr/ openssl speed
<trqx> wantlist returns 8 lines
<trqx> the ipfs pin add command is stuck at 69175 nodes fetched/proccessed
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<trqx> my blocks dir is stuck at 1.1GB, I have enough disk space and good bandwith so I guess it didn't pin completely the wikipedia yet
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<Kubuxu> `ipfs swarm peers`
<trqx> mmh only 4 peers
<Kubuxu> can I get a list
<Kubuxu> this is normal in case of routing=none
<trqx> ok
<Kubuxu> connect with: /ip4/188.40.116.66/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmepgFW7BHEtU4pZJdxaNiv75mKLLRQnPi1KaaXmQN4V1a and /ip4/144.76.60.46/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmZSe5GZJb5jcKQZzQmdWaFtimTHafjvtxyMMTJy5nZ6hN
<Kubuxu> those are nodes 2 among many nodes that have full wiki dumps
<Kubuxu> yeah, connect with these and it should resume
<Kubuxu> if it doesn't, restart the daemon, connect and start pin again
<trqx> done
<trqx> and now it downloads :)
<Kubuxu> as you are connected only to bootstrap (as for routing=none) you downloaded only parts available on them
<trqx> ok thanks for the tip
<Kubuxu> some of bootstrap nodes are gateways so the cache what people accessed recently for some time
<trqx> ah, got it
<Kubuxu> you weren't connected to main source of the dumps
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<trqx> I hope CPU usage won't be as high once I downloaded the dump and restart the daemon without routing=none
<Kubuxu> now you are downloading: /ip4/144.76.60.46/tcp/4001/ipfs/QmZSe5GZJb5jcKQZzQmdWaFtimTHafjvtxyMMTJy5nZ6hN
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<Kubuxu> you might want to increase Reprovider.Interval if it is too high
<Kubuxu> default is 12h
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<trqx> set it to 15m
<trqx> any way to ask for more peers manually for a given hash ?
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<Kubuxu> trqx: what you mean by that?
<Kubuxu> also I suggested increasing it, not decreasing
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<trqx> ah, misread that, I need read the doc
<trqx> I meant get peer adresses to connect to for this hash when routing is disabled
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<Kubuxu> what you can do is: enable routing, ipfs dht provide $HASH, disable routing
<Kubuxu> routing shouldn't be a problem after you finish fetching it
<trqx> mmh
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<trqx> I did ipfs findprovs $hash on another ipfs server
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<M-anomie> Will my user experience suffer much if I change the maximum storage to 10MB? I ask because I'm using ipfs on my phone. I have it set to 100MB right now.
<M-anomie> In fact, is it possible to not cache anything at all?
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<charlienyc[m]> Kubuxu: when I run ipfs swarm, I get 'error: context deadline extended'
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<charlienyc[m]> Exceeded**
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<fzzzr> Hi there!
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<Bombe> Good morning. I have just installed ipfs and am trying to access the webui but the browser console tells me that all POST requests are denied with a 403 Forbidden.
<Bombe> The ipfs daemon has been started with --writable.
<Bombe> Anything else I’m missing?
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<imvr> Hello, I've been told before that there is an implementation by OpenBazaar for TOR integration, any relevant links ?
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<imvr> Second question, does OpenBazaar use IPFS ?
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<Mateon1> imvr: Yes, OpenBazaar uses a fork of IPFS, and creates a separate IPFS network
<Mateon1> imvr: Here's the fork: https://github.com/OpenBazaar/go-ipfs/
<imvr> yeah I found it earlier should have mentioned it thanks though
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<achin> yay opensource
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<pinbot> now pinning on 8 nodes
<Kubuxu> !pin QmRMQAj9x6ee8cnKnhxm2nYfYwnzTqsR49hDsQG8DQ8vLx wiki-search-prototype
<pinbot> pinned on 8 of 8 nodes (0 failures) -- https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRMQAj9x6ee8cnKnhxm2nYfYwnzTqsR49hDsQG8DQ8vLx
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<Mateon1> Kubuxu: Hm, the QmdNAp... wiki snapshot (linked from that search) has dweb://ipns/.. links. Uhm, what?
<Mateon1> Does anything support that?
<Kubuxu> Mateon1: it was old version and that prototype is also old version
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<Kubuxu> the wiki deployed has search built in
<Kubuxu> (which is the same search just with different UI)
<Kubuxu> this is older prototype but I don't want it to get lost
<Mateon1> I have a question regarding sharding, why is it not supported for *reading* by default? I understand it's experimental so ipfs add with sharding shouldn't be default, but a lot of things seem to be using sharding already and nodes without sharding configured can't read sharded directories
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<Kubuxu> they can
<Mateon1> Well, my node can't
<Kubuxu> the gateway couldn't read sharded dirs until 0.4.9-rc1 due to bug
<Mateon1> Ah... That explains it
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<xSkyripper> hey guys ! what exit val does the go-ipfs returns if the daemon didn't start succesfully ? :)
<xSkyripper> from my tests, if the repo is not inited, it is 1
<xSkyripper> and on CTRL+C it's 9
<Kubuxu> usually 1 or 2
<Kubuxu> I think one if it doesn't start
<xSkyripper> and 2 is for ?
<xSkyripper> yea
<Kubuxu> I think daemon won't return it
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<Kubuxu> aah
<xSkyripper> ?
<Kubuxu> 2 if something is wrong with cmd args
<Kubuxu> I think
<xSkyripper> aw i see
<xSkyripper> so the succesful case would be "start, work and return 9" ?
<xSkyripper> on sigint or sigterm ?
<Kubuxu> on successful, soft exit from daemon (after sigint sigterm) it will be 0.
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<Kubuxu> start ipfs, let it init
<Kubuxu> ctrl-c
<Kubuxu> it returns 0
<flyingzumwalt> is there a way to do a provider count from the command line? ie to get a ballpark count of the nodes that have a particular hash?
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<xSkyripper> i said 9 because the Process.destroy() from Java
<xSkyripper> would make IPFS return 9
<whyrusleeping> flyingzumwalt: ipfs dht findprovs
<xSkyripper> and from what I know, that method uses SIGTERM ?
<xSkyripper> or am I wrong ?
<Kubuxu> flyingzumwalt: currently only up to 20, there is pr to fix that
<Kubuxu> xSkyripper: maybe Java kills it multiple times
<Kubuxu> then it might exit with 9
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<Kubuxu> if you send sig only once, it will capture it, process it and close with 0
<Kubuxu> it is recommended way
<Kubuxu> aah
<xSkyripper> that's weird
<Kubuxu> it is probably sending SIGKILL
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<Kubuxu> signal no. 0
<Kubuxu> signal no. 9
<xSkyripper> maybe :-? that would explain why it always returns 9
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<charlienyc[m]> Kubuxu: it keeps stalling. It will load like 100 new nodes before it stops for 20 mins
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<xSkyripper> Kubuxu: killing it with sigkill gave me 137 o.O ?
<charlienyc[m]> whyrusleeping: ^
<whyrusleeping> charlienyc[m]: hey, did you re-run the swarm connect to my node?
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<xSkyripper> okay so SIGINT and SIGTERM both make the daemon return 0
<xSkyripper> SIGKILL makes it return 137
<whyrusleeping> xSkyripper: 137 is -9 i beleive
<xSkyripper> aw
<xSkyripper> that must be it
<xSkyripper> any idea how to kill the Process softly ? xD Java
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<Kubuxu> xSkyripper: no cross os method unfortunately
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<xSkyripper> no necessarily cross os
<xSkyripper> it would help me just on android
<Kubuxu> exec('kill $IPFS_PID')
<Kubuxu> not sure
<xSkyripper> hehe that would be kinda annoying to do
<xSkyripper> considering that i need to know the pid
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<charlienyc[m]> whyrusleeping: every 20 minutes
<charlienyc[m]> For 24 hours
<charlienyc[m]> At 300k now
<whyrusleeping> charlienyc[m]: ah, i see you connected now. You werent when i asked
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<whyrusleeping> internet connection is likely just dropping and breaking the connection
<charlienyc[m]> Might have caught me in the short power outage
<whyrusleeping> i would run a little cronjob or bash script to run the swarm connect every so often
<charlienyc[m]> Would a tunnel help? It was working fine yesterday
<whyrusleeping> you can do it every second if you want, won't hurt anything
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<whyrusleeping> the tunnel will break in the same way
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<whyrusleeping> charlienyc[m]: are you seeing any error messages from the daemon?
<charlienyc[m]> Just when I hard quit
<whyrusleeping> hrm, okay
<charlienyc[m]> Gonna plug in to the Ethernet
<charlienyc[m]> Oh wait. No Ethernet port.
<charlienyc[m]> Ugh.
<whyrusleeping> lol
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<charlienyc[m]> Seems to be going now.
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<charlienyc[m]> I think it's just my sketchy connection
<whyrusleeping> Yeah
<whyrusleeping> i would run a script that reruns that swarm connect command every ten seconds or something
<charlienyc[m]> Can. I run that while the pin is going?
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<charlienyc[m]> Or should I have the script do both?
<whyrusleeping> nah, keep the pin running
<whyrusleeping> just run the swarm connect in a different terminal
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<charlienyc[m]> Wish I had a torrent of a Tar gz
<whyrusleeping> It would unfortunately be roughly 3-4x the data to transfer
<whyrusleeping> Though i guess i could tar up an ipfs repo
<whyrusleeping> havent tried that before
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<charlienyc[m]> Will that kill my mid-range laptop?
<charlienyc[m]> When I try to decompress, I mean
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<whyrusleeping> it shouldnt kill it
<whyrusleeping> whats your download speed again?
<charlienyc[m]> 4mbs right now
<charlienyc[m]> I have 300k nodes now
<whyrusleeping> hrm
<whyrusleeping> Lets see how far you get in the next half hour or so, with the swarm connecting thing
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<charlienyc[m]> A gift for the channel
* charlienyc[m] uploaded an image: file1494366810116.jpg (719KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/nycmesh.net/hdWMqOsfuYepTxJMyhcgUtuI>
<charlienyc[m]> 2k more since we last spoke
<emunand[m]> (for those in irc) /ipfs/QmdtNLU2HbJYcbqMBM3DdNniwLqquEsEjrvWkLG8RJCnyJ
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<whyrusleeping> charlienyc[m]: 2k in 10 minutes seems to be about the same speed as 300k in a day
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<whyrusleeping> With an average blocksize of ~200kb, that is roughly the speed of your connection
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<whyrusleeping> 2k blocks is about 400000000 bytes, which is about 670KBps, which would equal a download speed of 5.3Mbit
<whyrusleeping> so i'm assuming the average block size is smaller than 200k, since your download speed is less than 5.3mbit
* whyrusleeping would like someone to check his math
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<achin> yall need a wolframalpha bot in here :)
<xloem1> that would rock. i wonder what channels have bots like that.
<achin> another chatroom i'm in has one. it's pretty awesome, but only if you manage to formulate the query correctly
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<whyrusleeping> TUSF: hey, could you sign off your commit on that PR?
<charlienyc[m]> My DL speed could be better too. Will run another test
<whyrusleeping> charlienyc[m]: its likely that my estimation of the average block size is way high
<charlienyc[m]> 2k in 10 mins is 12k an hour
<charlienyc[m]> 12k * 24 =288k
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<charlienyc[m]> 13 Mbps to Istanbul!
<charlienyc[m]> Must have outlasted the rest of the network tonight
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<TUSF> whyrusleeping: I have no clue how to do that without just making another commit.
<whyrusleeping> TUSF: git commit --amend
<whyrusleeping> then once you did that, git push --force
<TUSF> I tried using git commit --ammend, but I can't seem to push the—
<TUSF> Ah, ok.
<TUSF> Yeah, I needed to know that last part...
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<TUSF> Done.
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<charlienyc[m]> Anyone know the ipfs flags for rpi?
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<whyrusleeping> charlienyc[m]: which rpi?
<charlienyc[m]> Both the pi zero and the 3
<charlienyc[m]> I think the pi zero has same specs as the 3
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<whyrusleeping> ah, okay.
<whyrusleeping> You shouldnt need any different flags
<whyrusleeping> just make sure to grab an arm build
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<charlienyc[m]> Of course. What about for an x86 Debian VM build? No flags?
<lgierth> whyrusleeping: git push --force is prone to force-pushing all local branches if it isn't configured to only push the current
<lgierth> (unless that default changed)
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<TUSF> Question: if I make an object with `ipfs dag put` that looks something like this: {"Name":"John Smith", "Birth":"1990", "Friends":{"/":"CID"}} will `ipfs pin add -r` also try to pin the objects linked inside, like what's in the "Friends" parameter?
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<TUSF> I think I read somewhere in the docs that {"/":"CID"} is interpreted as a link? I wanna know if that only applies to file-type objects
<TUSF> And of course, I wanna know if pin will work on non-files too
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