<kvda>
in the problems we don't have yet bucket imho
<kvda>
and naming pedantry
<kvda>
but it's funny
<achin>
if i only had a connection to the internet for a few hours a day (or a few days a month) -- say, if there was a big planet inbetween the radio on my moon and the radio on earth, ipfs might fit the bill
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<MrSparkle>
more like an internet, at that point
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<emunand[m]>
is it possible to share a key to another peer in order to publish to the same ipns hash?
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<kthnnlg>
Hi All, I'm working on the design of a purely functional data structure to be stored in the ipfs merkle dag. To that end, I'm looking into the most efficient ways to interface with ipfs. In particular, I'm planning to use ipfs objects to represent nodes in my tree data structure and would like for loading and storing nodes to be as fast as possible. First question: there seems to be two methods to push a an object to the ipfs store, namely json
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<crankylinuxuser1>
kthnnlg: you having the same ideas from Erlang and want to apply it and its functions to IPFS? So instead of running fcn() , you run ipfs(hash($data))
<kthnnlg>
crankylinuxuser1: kind of. what's motivating me in particular is the idea of porting a data structure that my colleagues and i designed, namely chunkedseq, to ipfs. the benefit of using ipfs is that we can generate enormous instances of our data structure and store it across multiple machines
<Kubuxu>
kthnnlg: best way to go would probably be CBOR-IPLD format
<Kubuxu>
which is CBOR with additional tag that allows for linking
<Kubuxu>
CBOR itself is superset of JSON when it comes to formats
<Kubuxu>
but is binary
<Kubuxu>
see `ipfs dag --help
<kthnnlg>
Kubuxu: super, thanks. is cbor-ipld a part of ipfs or a project building on ipfs?
<Kubuxu>
it is part of ipfs
<Kubuxu>
but it is building on ipfs
<crankylinuxuser1>
ipld stands for interplanetary linked data, IIRC
<Kubuxu>
like we created IPLD because nothing was providing binary, compact and merkle linking format
<crankylinuxuser1>
damn, how the IPFS ecosystem has grown since the 0.3 days :)
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<Mateon1>
Kubuxu: Regarding IPLD, is an object that is literally {"/":"QmLink"} properly defined? When I tried that a while ago, I couldn't resolve through that link in any way
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<Kubuxu>
not sure
<Kubuxu>
it might be not
<xSkyripper>
is the --json option the only one to set the config for ipfs ?
<xSkyripper>
like in ipfs config --json ....
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<Mateon1>
xSkyripper: No, when setting boolean values, you can use the --bool switch instead of JSON
<xSkyripper>
what about origin * ?
<xSkyripper>
there's no other way ?
<xSkyripper>
I need to config it executing a shell command from Java
<xSkyripper>
and I think it's mistakenly escaped because all I get is Error: failed to set config value: Failure to decode config: json: cannot unmarshal string into Go struct field API.HTTPHeaders of type []string (maybe use --json?)
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<Mateon1>
Yeah, using JSON is the easiest way
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<Mateon1>
Sorry, I missed your message because I was focused on other stuff
<xSkyripper>
no problem :) I can't get it to work tho' ...
<Mateon1>
Hm, did you try: ipfs config API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin --json '["*"]'
<xSkyripper>
I think I got it now
<xSkyripper>
the daemon needs to be started to config the headers ?
<xSkyripper>
it's throwing "api not running"
<Mateon1>
I'm not sure, actually
<Mateon1>
Yeah, that means it needs the daemon
<xSkyripper>
hmm
<Mateon1>
You can always edit $IPFS_PATH/config manually
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<crankylinuxuser1>
You can also do " ipfs config show | sed (blablabla) | ipfs config replace - "
<xSkyripper>
new String[]{"IPFS_PATH=" + ipfsRepo}, true);
<crankylinuxuser1>
I know that parsing JSON with a regex is not "good", but since the schema here is relatively straight forward, it wouldn't be too painful.
<Mateon1>
You can edit $IPFS_PATH/config with jq pretty nicely
<xSkyripper>
shit, not a good idea to paste code here
<Mateon1>
The config value is wrong, for ACAO you want ["*"] as the value
<xSkyripper>
it's a bash command inside java that need to be executed :\
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<crankylinuxuser1>
xSkyripper: automating my 3 liner would be trivial... Oh java
<xSkyripper>
... xD
<xSkyripper>
yea, Java
<crankylinuxuser1>
Well, spotted your first problem :P
<xSkyripper>
hahaha xD
<xSkyripper>
it's a cordova plugin :-\ not a chance to escape java
<crankylinuxuser1>
So you can pull the JSON via a webservice call, store it , run a regex on it or use a JSON parser, edit accordingly, and then call replace API
<xSkyripper>
thanks for the idea !
<crankylinuxuser1>
That would be compatible with proper workings in Java (no touchy the underlying OS, simple web API calls)
<xSkyripper>
i'm already touching the android's shellxD
<xSkyripper>
that's how I start the daemon actually :-\
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<crankylinuxuser1>
BTW, I've worked java a decent deal. I'm primarily C, C++, JS, python, and Erlang programmer. I so far don't have enough time to really work with Go yet.. to my disadvantage
<xSkyripper>
:) nice
<crankylinuxuser1>
well, keep that to a minimum.. So, you're using Dalvik, eh?
<xSkyripper>
not really
<xSkyripper>
Runtime.getRuntime().exec( ... )
<xSkyripper>
and that's it
<xSkyripper>
it's doing the job fine nuff for me :D
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<crankylinuxuser1>
If you're using Java and dev'ing Andrpoid, it's going through Dalvik. Or you're doing something with NDK... good luck with that.
<xSkyripper>
I don't have that much experience with Java and Android :-\
<xSkyripper>
this cordova plugin i've written is for a project
<xSkyripper>
I only needed to fetch the arm binaries and start the daemon
<xSkyripper>
and connect to it through js-ipfs-api
<xSkyripper>
that's all :D
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<crankylinuxuser1>
I've done a bit more with Android, primarily with NDK and OpenCV. That's a rabbithole I recommend nobody go down.
<xSkyripper>
:-\ sounds scary
<crankylinuxuser1>
I tend to specialize in machine vision and areas. Dalvik is fast... but the java bindings for OpenCV (computer vision) are subpar unless you use NDK - native developer toolkit
<xSkyripper>
well ... managed to get the daemon started before config cmds
<xSkyripper>
still getting : Error: failed to set config value: Failure to decode config: json: cannot unmarshal string into Go struct field API.HTTPHeaders of type []string (maybe use --json?)
<crankylinuxuser1>
what string are you trying to pull the configs? feel free to PM instead
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<crankylinuxuser1>
Just checking.. API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Credentials is NOW Gateway.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin
<crankylinuxuser1>
I just want to make sure that the config location "API.HTTPHeaders.Access-Control-Allow-Origin" is now deprecated?
<pedrot>
edsilv[m]: let's talk?
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<whyrusleeping>
oh man, people really need to update their ipfs daemon...
<whyrusleeping>
theres a bunch of people running 0.4.4 and earlier
<whyrusleeping>
and its causing a rather large amount of excess bandwidth usage
<emunand[m]>
and when those versions become unsupported, they get angry because they dont want to update
<whyrusleeping>
heh
<whyrusleeping>
if everyone updated to 0.4.9 right now, the baseline network traffic would probably go down 5x
<whyrusleeping>
probably more
<emunand[m]>
is there a way to refuse connections to old ipfs daemons?
<whyrusleeping>
uhm... nothing built in
<whyrusleeping>
it wouldnt be too difficult to implement though
<SchrodingersScat>
idk what I'm on
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<whyrusleeping>
just throw an error in the identify handshake if the other side has the wrong version
<SchrodingersScat>
0.4.8 is out, not 4.9
<whyrusleeping>
0.4.9 is out, we just havent updated the topic apparently
<SchrodingersScat>
;_;
<emunand[m]>
maybe in a major release it could be implemented, but it could cause more trouble
<Kubuxu>
emunand[m]: we won't implement that as we had partitioned network on 0.3 -> 0.4 migration and it was bad
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<Mateon1>
Speaking of updating, just merged an update to Nixpkgs, from 0.4.6
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<dell>
Hi all - wondered if there was another site that runs the https://ipfs.pics gui type code to generate hashes for images? it seems down - thanks...
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<voker57>
generating hashes for images is not all it did, images still have to be stored somewhere
<Kubuxu>
but I have no idea in what state it is feature wise
<Kubuxu>
lidel: ^^
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<x43[m]>
ah wow, 11 days ago, what a time to be alive :-)
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<x43[m]>
is lidel someone I can bribe with my newfound fatty ethereum wealth to fix broken things?
<crankylinuxuser1>
Curious... Why is ethereum holding sway in here?
<x43[m]>
there are a number of ethereum contracts that point to data on the ipfs network
<x43[m]>
dapp.lemon.email blew my mind more than a little bit
<x43[m]>
serverless end to end encrypted email, all communication with ethereum contracts, and all messages stored on ipfs
<x43[m]>
also, in theory, filecoin will be an ERC-20 token, more deeply integrating IPFS into the ethereum ecosystem (or is that the other way around?)
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<crankylinuxuser1>
My primary concern was "Whoops a VIP made a mistake, lets force a fork". I have very little confidence in Ethereum, primarily because of that.
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<crankylinuxuser1>
It appears that they were given a chance to show that they stood by "The contract is code, and the code is contact". It would have been a $150 million pain, but would have showed that they stand by the network in gain or loss.
<x43[m]>
meh, it's all still pretty pre-release :-) it's all scheduled for actual final release and protocol freeze in a couple years
<daviddias>
ralphtheninja: around?
<Kubuxu>
crankylinuxuser1: I don't want to discuss Crypto in here, but all PoW networks base on the fact that network will follow the most profitable path in long term. The hard fork was that path.
<crankylinuxuser1>
Fair enough. I was more curious why IPFS had connections with ethereum. And that was answered.
<x43[m]>
turkish wikipedia?
<emunand[m]>
it redirects tr.wikipedia.org to wikipedia-on-ipfs
<x43[m]>
ah, awesome :-)
<crankylinuxuser1>
Yeah, I remember a week or so ago on Hacker news that efford of putting Turkish Wikipedia on IPFS
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<x43[m]>
oh, another weird curiosity I had, is there anything that can be done similar to git on IPFS? something like looking through IPNS update history to see modified files etc? Somewhat relevant to Wikipedia too, would be nice to see timestamped diffs etc.
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<whyrusleeping>
x43[m]: yeah, thats something we want to do
<whyrusleeping>
figuring out the right data format for it is the only real blocker now
<whyrusleeping>
well, and the UX
<emunand[m]>
i believe zeronet has a github of their own
<emunand[m]>
"0hub" as it's called
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<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: yep
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<x43[m]>
zeronet is pretty damn neat. I jumped on recently for the first time in a year and a half or so, and was pretty shocked at all the progress they made. It looks really nice.
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<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: congrats on eurovision .. the sobrals are very talented :)
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<x43[m]>
I had a fun idea where data could be hosted on an IPNS hash or something (maybe using something like dns-link), and it would contain all the static content for the website. Someone else could then monitor all changes on the static content, and could flag negative or something if somehow malicious content got added, like is commonly done for driveby/iframe injection installs.
<x43[m]>
that, paired with a strong CSP policy forbidding dynamic content from getting executed would vastly increase the trustability of a given website.
<x43[m]>
that "someone" else would be like a third party trust authority, so a company/service that people trust to rate the maliciousness of a website
<emunand[m]>
pierce: so comparing other IPFS hashes together through IPNS?
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<x43[m]>
@emunand comparing regularly changing static content to look for bugs/malicious commits, but yeah in my head I was thinking IPNS, and then crawling the new files regularly
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<daviddias>
ralphtheninja: ahah thank you! :)
<x43[m]>
cblgh: is scuttlebutt built on IPFS, or something lower level?
<crankylinuxuser1>
There's no reason why GPG can't be used with files on an IPFS share, to validate that X user signs these files.
<crankylinuxuser1>
That's cool. I assume it costs gas to execute an email?
<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: done, sorry about the inconvenience
<x43[m]>
it does, like a couple cents
<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: let me know how it plays out
<daviddias>
woot, testing! :)
<x43[m]>
crankylinuxuser1: only the pointer to ipfs is actually stored on the blockchain though, so it's not super insane.
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<x43[m]>
cuts down a lot on the spam though :-) I think the idea is something like the brave browser pays you a tiny fraction per day to look at ads or something, and you can use that to pay for the small transaction fees for pushing immutable data to the blockchain. There are also whisper messages over the ethereum network which are ephemeral and free, so a lot of comms data might use that instead.
<x43[m]>
then you're also paying people a few cents or something to hold the IPFS data
<x43[m]>
this kills the server
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<crankylinuxuser1>
I have personal reservations against using ethereum. I know it's a flame-worthy debate, and this doesn't seem to be the place to hold that. But my choices are to continue working with IPFS and carving out my own area of interestingness.
<x43[m]>
sure :-) same contracts work on ETC network, and maybe even that RSK thing over the Bitcoin network. Good tech is loosely coupled and highly agile.
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<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: writing some comments in the issue .. one sec
<ralphtheninja>
just to gather what we know
<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: have this code been changed? I'm thinking of the constructor() there that creates this.db on line 27
<lidel>
x43[m], what do you meant by "enable ipfs/ipns URI's in Chrome"? If you are thinking about "clickable" "/ipfs/Qmfoo..." there is an experimental "linkification" feature that can be enabled in ipfs-companion webextension's Preferences. If you meant "custom protocol handler" of links such as "web+ipfs://Qmfoo.." then this is work in progress API-wise: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-companion/issues/164 (chrome does
<lidel>
not have API for it and we need to come up with something, eventually)
<ralphtheninja>
just trying to figure out what has changed .. given that it has worked before
<ralphtheninja>
before we make any more changes :)
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<ralphtheninja>
daviddias I _have_ to go out with my dog now .. but back shortly
<daviddias>
I'll keep trying things :)
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<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: try to backtrack what has changed in your project first .. iirc the .db property should be a function that returns the db object
<ralphtheninja>
(in the same fashion as what getLevelDOWN() does)
<ralphtheninja>
err a function that returns a function that when called creates the db :)
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<daviddias>
ok, fixed it
<daviddias>
apparently, Object.assign is having a different behaviour now
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<daviddias>
it no longer does Object.assign(target, objA, objB, objC, ...)
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<daviddias>
with WebPack at least
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<null_radix[m]>
i have a question about the unixfs-engine importer
<null_radix[m]>
they seem to be based on cbor
<null_radix[m]>
would it make sense to build an import on top of the DAG API?
<null_radix[m]>
^importer
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<daviddias>
unixfs-engine is using dag-pb
<daviddias>
and currently using the IPLD Resolver API directly
<daviddias>
the DAG API only accept a few more options
<daviddias>
it sounds good to me to make sure it is mounted on top of the DAG API directly, this way we don't have a dependency with an internal, but with a spec'ed out API
<daviddias>
which is good for stability
<daviddias>
what are you trying to achieve?
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<crankylinuxuser1>
I have a simple question.. I saw earlier about talking of making an updatable append-only IPFS. What is it called here, and is it currently being approached?
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<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: ugh
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<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: anyway, I think I'll hack up a PR with a small assert before the call to dbFactory
<null_radix[m]>
> what are you trying to achieve?
<null_radix[m]>
i want to define new importe (sharding in particalar) but I don't want to predefine it
<ralphtheninja>
daviddias: with a clearer error message
<daviddias>
ralphtheninja: yeah, that will help detect future errors
<null_radix[m]>
so sharding(ipfs.dag, largeFILE)
<null_radix[m]>
and i also don't want to use protoBuf :P
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<x43[m]>
lidel: I'm mostly thinking of having things like <img src="ipfs://<hash>"> dealing with ipfs links in the address bar or something would be trickier
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<lidel>
x43[m], address bar will not happen any time soon (no API in browsers for that). As for IPFS resources in webpages, better approach (right now) is to use URLs to public gateway: that way users without support for ipfs will still be able to access content. Those who have IPFS support (either via webextension or service worker) will opportunistically load via IPFS where possible.
<x43[m]>
lidel: it would by nice if there was a drop down in the extension that let you chose what your gateway was, whether it's localhost, ipfs.io, or some other random ipfs server on the internet
<x43[m]>
I'd hate for the popularity of ipfs.io to become a problem :-)
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<x43[m]>
looks like ipfs-chrome-station is somewhat maintained, which is nice
<x43[m]>
was updated March 19th in the Chrome Web Store
<lidel>
it enforces "web+" prefix to custom protocol handlers registered via navigator.registerProtocolHandler (which is really jsut a redirect, not real handler)
<lidel>
we had low level APIs and "
<lidel>
custom protocol in address bar when using old Legacy SDK in Firefox, but those APIs are deprecated
<x43[m]>
so you want to register ipfs:// and ipns://, but can't? do you swap IPFS stuff out of the DOM as well? Is the idea that a jquery request, or something not sitting in the dom, would try to pull from an ipfs:// URL and you want to handle that?
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<x43[m]>
lidel: I'm getting sh: 1: run-s: not found when trying to build. What is this run-s thing?
<x43[m]>
building on ubuntu 17.04
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<lidel>
x43[m], npm-run-all (should be installed via `npm install`)