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<ikeeki> Hi, a simple question: do you plan to update the linux-sunxi wiki with a tutorial on how to update to r4p0?
<ikeeki> thanks.
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<calhemp> hi guys, i don't know if is important, but I find this
<calhemp> date 5 hours ago
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<NetForHack> Does anyone here ?
<lukas2511> Does anyone what ?
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<jelly> yes.
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<NetForHack> Ok. What u-boot config i must use for mk802 clone with ST-MK802-V3.1 on the pcb ?
<NetForHack> mk802_a10s.fex or semitime_g2.fex or my board not compatible ?
<jelly> NetForHack: which SoC does it use? Have you read the identification guide and new device howto on the wiki?
<NetForHack> A10S
<NetForHack> i replace original andoid with android from 4pda.ru what doesn't have drivers for wifi and do factory reset every boot
<NetForHack> seller not have original android
<NetForHack> so i have almost a brick
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<NetForHack> jelly: so ?
<jelly> probably should have extracted device info from the original/stock android before reflashing, I guess
<NetForHack> jelly: i knew that ;( What about linux on it ? Which fex i must use ? It`s run fedora image but see half of ram and much laggy
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<jelly> I've no experience jury-rigging fex to fit an unknown board, maybe someone else will have an idea
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<NetForHack> huh
<NetForHack> find guy on mailling list what have stock android and extracted dram_para
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<ssvb> NetForHack: good luck with that, you seem to have a somewhat different mk802 flavor compared to what is already documented in the linux-sunxi wiki
<ssvb> NetForHack: as jelly said, you should have extracted the vital information from the original Android system before reflashing it
<ssvb> NetForHack: in this case we would have at least the dram settings and the fex file
<NetForHack> ssvb: wish i now that i year ago
<NetForHack> ssvb: i think i buy a "real one mk802"
<NetForHack> ssvb: that pandawill
<jelly> you might buy one exact same model as this almost-bricked one (if you can) and get the info out of the stock flash contents
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<jelly> or course there's zero guarantee the vendor will ship the same board
<jelly> (and you can't even rely on ST-MK802-V3.1 being the same board because clones)
<NetForHack> jelly: i will try
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<ssvb> NetForHack: just for fun, you may try the https://github.com/ssvb/sunxi-bootsetup/releases/tag/20141215-sunxi-bootsetup-prototype sd card image
<ssvb> NetForHack: just to see whether it boots and can detect the dram properly
<ssvb> but for properly using all the peripherals, a correct fex file is still needed
<NetForHack> jelly: buy it`s not an option because war on my ragion and crash of my local curency ( $ coast now 400% from date then i buy that device )
<NetForHack> ssvb: i will try your image
* NetForHack searching for card reader
<NetForHack> ssvb: i need use v4 for HDMI output ?
<ssvb> NetForHack: both start with dual hdmi/uart output, but v4 then runs the debian installer on hdmi, while v5 runs the debian installer on the uart serial console
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<NetForHack> ssvb: it`s works
<NetForHack> ssvb: but i dont understood how exacly it`s helps me
<ssvb> NetForHack: well, if we find the right fex file, then your device can be fully supported in gnu/linux
<NetForHack> ssvb: i`ve got "Look like your hardware can`t possibly match any of yhe supported devices."
<ssvb> what is the dram size and bus width?
<NetForHack> ssvb: i`ve emailed guy on the sunxi mailing list about fex
<ssvb> ok, this sounds like a good plan
<NetForHack> ssvb: that say 512 mb and 250 mhz
<NetForHack> ssvb: but it`s 1024 mb
<NetForHack> 240 mhz *
<ssvb> hmm, the size misdetection is not good
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<ssvb> can you actually create a device page in the linux-sunxi wiki and upload pictures?
<NetForHack> ssvb: do you have a skype or other IM to contact with me ?
<ssvb> I have no skype
<NetForHack> ssvb: dunno, i try
<NetForHack> ssvb: hangouts, xmpp, icq ?!
<ssvb> why trying so hard not to use irc?
<NetForHack> ok it will be irc if you wish that
<NetForHack> ssvb: can i run mainline kernel or i need to run linux-sunxi kernetl (3.4) ?
<NetForHack> ssvb: your image run 3.18 somehow
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<NetForHack> i confused by sunxi-wifi
<NetForHack> RTL8189ES works or not ?
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<NetForHack> and how use sun5i config to mainline kernel ?
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<ssvb> atsampson: ping
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<ssvb> finally :)
<atsampson> sorry, I've only just got home from work ;-)
<ssvb> atsampson: I was just looking at the recent http://stuff.offog.org/tpr3.html updates and have some comments :-)
<ssvb> the zq calibration is not very deterministic (the calibrated value is in the brackets) and may differ across different runs
* atsampson looks
<atsampson> ah, yes, and more so as you move further away from good termination values, it appears...
<ssvb> like "dram_zq = 0x7b (0x72b3b00)" vs. "dram_zq = 0x7b (0x72f3b00)"
<atsampson> I set it doing ZQ=0x3b and 0x7F on Friday night and haven't cleaned it up since then
<ssvb> just like with 'dqs_gating_delay', you can bypass automatic calibration and just configure a predefined value
<ssvb> for example, with "dram_zq = 0x7b (0x72b3b00)", you can just set ZQ value to 0x72b3b00 instead of 0x7b
<ssvb> and then it will be always the same after every reboot
<atsampson> that's worth remembering; cheers
<atsampson> I have indeed fixed dqs_gating_delay (for each speed)
<ssvb> ZQ calibration results seem to be temperature dependent - http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Ssvb/Cubietruck_DRAM_Calibration
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<ssvb> in all cases it is 0x2c there for the Cubietruck, but calibrated in slightly different ways (to either 0x10d1800 or 0x10d3900)
<ssvb> and this affects reliability, as can be seen in "Cubietruck 648MHz (cold start zq settings)" vs. "Cubietruck 648MHz (normal zq settings)" tables
<atsampson> yeah
<ssvb> atsampson: regarding the other things, it looks like zq=0x1b and zq=0x2a from your earlier tests are better than 0x7b and 0x7f
<ssvb> I mean 0x2a and 0x3b ("pcDuino3 Nano, JEDEC timings, 504MHz, EMR1=0x04, ZQ=0x2a (board #1)" and "pcDuino3 Nano, JEDEC timings, 504MHz, EMR1=0x04, ZQ=0x3b (board #1)")
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<ssvb> so it might make sense to search for better zq setup somewhere around 0x3b by nudging top and bottom hex digits
<ssvb> or, in fact, around 0x2a as it seems to be more reliable
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<atsampson> yes, it looks like EMR1=0x04, ZQ=0x2a is the best so far?
<ssvb> right
<atsampson> I'll give ZQ=0x1a and ZQ=0x3a a go next, then 0x29 and 0x2b
<ssvb> sounds like a good plan
<ssvb> also the massive write errors for the EMR1=0 setup are quite easy to explain, because EMR1 configures the termination impedance on the DDR3 chip side (which means that it affects write operations)
<atsampson> doesn't EMR1=0/2 turn off termination entirely? so it's probably going to be horrible unless there's external termination in any config...
<atsampson> (or termination in that case, anyway)
<atsampson> but it was interesting to see that you can still see the diagonal stripe with EMR1=0/2, which was kind of what I was interested in
<ssvb> yes, I just mean that having specifically write errors is quite expected when this is configured wrong
<atsampson> yup
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<ssvb> atsampson: one more thing, it may make sense to the TPR3 value in u-boot to something other than 0
<ssvb> for example, if TPR3=0 is unreliable, then the successful run of the whole test is at risk an may get stuck (for example, if the system just fails to boot)
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<ssvb> additionally, the initial TPR3 value from u-boot determines the starting location in the table of the first tests
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<ssvb> for example, if you are primarily interested in quickly getting the results about the bottom right area, then you could set TPR3 in u-boot to something like 0x30EEEE
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<adj_> do you know what's the bandwidth of a1x and a20 GPIO?
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<libv> so someone did report ST-MK802-V3.1 on the ml in 2013
<libv> headers
<libv> Vitaliy Blats
<libv> ah, hrm
<libv> no, notera.arake
<libv> Notera Arake <notera.arake@gmail.com>
<libv> dram para are available
<ssvb> it's nice to have such helpful community members
<libv> throwing him an email right now...
<ssvb> there is probably one more person with the same or very similar hardware - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-boards/commits/master/sys_config/a10s/mk802_a10s.fex
<libv> i think this might be yet another device
<libv> but we won't know until hansg spends a few days finally adding devices to our wiki
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<libv> ssvb: do you think this guy will be back?
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<ssvb> libv: maybe NetForHack will find the android firmware image in one of the android forums and will have no need to come back
<libv> :(
<ssvb> if the hardware is popular enough, it will be documented one day
<libv> yeah
<libv> perhaps Notera might now that i asked him
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