FreezingCold has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
FreezingCold has joined #linux-sunxi
linkmauve1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
leviathancn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
popolon has joined #linux-sunxi
naobsd has quit [Quit: naobsd]
popolon has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1]
naobsd has joined #linux-sunxi
khuey|away is now known as khuey
forest has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
protoCall7 has joined #linux-sunxi
cnxsoft has joined #linux-sunxi
egbert has quit [Disconnected by services]
egbert has joined #linux-sunxi
StevenWan_ has joined #linux-sunxi
protoCall7 has quit [Quit: protoCall7]
khuey is now known as khuey|away
FreezingAlt has joined #linux-sunxi
FreezingCold has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
Andy-D has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
_whitelogger has joined #linux-sunxi
dev1990 has joined #linux-sunxi
khuey|away is now known as khuey
adj_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
deffrag has joined #linux-sunxi
khuey is now known as khuey|away
adj_ has joined #linux-sunxi
mzki has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[xeros] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
p1u3sch1 has joined #linux-sunxi
p1u3sch1_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
protoCall7 has joined #linux-sunxi
ccube has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
ccube has joined #linux-sunxi
dev1990 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
JohnDoe_71Rus has joined #linux-sunxi
FreezingAlt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
protoCall7 has quit [Quit: protoCall7]
StevenWan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving]
ssvb has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
HeHoPMaJIeH has joined #linux-sunxi
ssvb has joined #linux-sunxi
cnxsoft has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
cnxsoft has joined #linux-sunxi
gaara has joined #linux-sunxi
dev1990 has joined #linux-sunxi
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
<plaes>
ssvb: Excellent response!
dev1990 has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
domidumont has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
reinforce has joined #linux-sunxi
prz has joined #linux-sunxi
_massi has joined #linux-sunxi
Seppoz has joined #linux-sunxi
sehraf has joined #linux-sunxi
marcin has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
ccube has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
ccube has joined #linux-sunxi
domidumont has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
<mnemoc>
Turl: how can an opoen source project BUY another?
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
<oliv3r>
you buy the company behind it :p
<oliv3r>
duh
<mnemoc>
*g*
<oliv3r>
:p
<oliv3r>
hey mnemoc how's things?
<mnemoc>
I thought both were community projects... obviuly I was wrong
<mnemoc>
I have a house since wednesday, heating since last night, and broadband on saturday, so in general things are going great :)
<oliv3r>
amazing!
<oliv3r>
all in germany?
<mnemoc>
nah, I moved to UK at the end of january, that's why it too so long to reinstall maxima :\
<oliv3r>
ahh, so UK better than DE?
<plaes>
mnemoc: who bought who?
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: from my daughter's perspective, yes
<mnemoc>
plaes: gitlab "acquired" bitorious
<mnemoc>
gitorious*
<plaes>
ah..
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: why from your daughter's perspective?
<mnemoc>
I'll give a try to phabricator next week
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: because they already know english and they don't want to go to school in a language they don't understand at all
<oliv3r>
i know enlightenment uses phabricator i think; they seem quite happy with it
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: they are moving to the UK?
<wens>
wikimedia as well
<wens>
they gave a talk at fosdem on i
<wens>
*it
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: or they are half here, half there?
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: and because of TV. in the news DE is responsible of blocking ES from reconstructing their economy... and in the movies they are all nazis. while UK is the cradle of pop music :p
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: yes, at the end of the school year.
<mnemoc>
wens: llvm too
<oliv3r>
lol fair enough
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: so they'll live with you full time?
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: do I dare ask what happenend?
<plaes>
now you did :P
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: yes :)
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: good dad!
<oliv3r>
what happened to your wife? she doesn't want them?
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: good reason to move from DE, right?
gianMOD has joined #linux-sunxi
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: absolutly, not a thought required
<mnemoc>
she is not well at the moment
<oliv3r>
get a satelite dish and get spansih tv :p
<oliv3r>
or, you should ave moved to NL :p
<oliv3r>
better then UK :)
<mnemoc>
nah, they need immersion, no spanish tv
<oliv3r>
very true
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: in the stereotypes, NL is the land of free drugs... and it has ugly-language too
<oliv3r>
pfft
<mnemoc>
:D
<oliv3r>
go away
<oliv3r>
:)
<oliv3r>
no, but i'm happy for you
<oliv3r>
very good news
<oliv3r>
so what are you doing wrok-wise?
<mnemoc>
telling "next stop, blah blah blah"...
<mnemoc>
and "this is a blah service to blah blah"
<oliv3r>
ohh, like a bus-announcer?
<oliv3r>
in spanish?
<oliv3r>
no coding work?
<oliv3r>
well better have that as a job, and have your girls; hten the alternatie
<mnemoc>
the linux box that does the passenger information on buses :p
gianMOD has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<mnemoc>
but it's a manufacturing-centric company, so the pace is veeeeeeery slow... which gives me more time for my daughters
wickwire has joined #linux-sunxi
<mnemoc>
the *next* product is based on a TI davinci that stopped been maintained by 2.6.37...
<rellla>
i think, i should take care of the line length ;)
* rellla
really needs to read kernel coding style guide
<mnemoc>
rellla: start by runing the check patch script
linkmauve1 has joined #linux-sunxi
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: wow, so why are they using something _that_ old
bonbons has joined #linux-sunxi
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: maybe you should use an a20 :p
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: or get hacking on the TI stuff :D (didn't TI abandon all it's SoC efforts?) good luck in getting support
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: allwinner won't guaranty them 20 years of stock :\
<oliv3r>
and TI will?
<mnemoc>
yes
<oliv3r>
fair nuff
<oliv3r>
so you have 20 years to get support mainlined :)
<mnemoc>
:D
<mnemoc>
there is basic support enqueued in 3.20, but they rely in the DSPs and M3 cores as well... and mainline omap uses a different (newer) inter processor protocol
gianMOD has joined #linux-sunxi
jinzo has joined #linux-sunxi
<plaes>
rellla: don't you want to use a macro?
<rellla>
plaes: ?
<plaes>
in your patch
<rellla>
isn't DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST enough?
<plaes>
you have 4 identical constructions which all look a bit crazy
Andy-D has joined #linux-sunxi
FR^2 has joined #linux-sunxi
gianMOD has quit []
allen has joined #linux-sunxi
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: 4.0*
<mnemoc>
4.0 should have been reserved to match the release of LDD4 -_-
<mzki>
plaes: i've read that but was not entirely clear to me
<mzki>
plaes: "Most SoCs have 2 LCDCs"
<mzki>
plaes: "A directly connected panel is always tied directly to an LCDC"
<mzki>
plaes: sounds like you could have 2 panels each tied to it's own LCDC
kevinsan has joined #linux-sunxi
cnxsoft has quit [Quit: cnxsoft]
<mzki>
plaes: i'm new to all this though so I don't really understand how the hardware is structured
<Turl>
oliv3r: is it gplv2 boot0 for all socs what I'm seeing?
<plaes>
Turl: it seems to be
<Turl>
mnemoc: they're not projects, they're companies doing SaaS :P
reinforce has joined #linux-sunxi
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
<mnemoc>
Turl: sounds very profitable :p
<mnemoc>
Turl: or they have commercial versions?
<wens>
gitlab has paid version
<oliv3r>
Turl: not sure of the licens3, but yes!
<mzki>
plaes: what's the point of having two sets of output pins, LCD0 and LCD1, then?
<plaes>
mzki: pins have multiple usage
<Turl>
mnemoc: gitlab does, for on-site, with support and other bells and whistles
FreezingAlt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
FreezingCold has joined #linux-sunxi
<Turl>
mnemoc: the "Community Edition" is FLOSS, and they offer free hosting on gitlab.com (+paid support)
<oliv3r>
mzki: hdmi for output1 lcd1 for output2?
<Turl>
gitorious offers installation services and fancy domains for the hosted version on https://gitorious.org/
<mzki>
plaes: ok so the two just cannot be used at the same time
<mzki>
oliv3r: yeah thinking about it, the thing is that I'd like two displays about 4.3" 480x272
<mzki>
oliv3r: so hdmi does not seem practical, or possible, and it adds to the cost
FR^2 has quit [Quit: Connection reset by peer]
paulk-collins has joined #linux-sunxi
FreezingCold has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
Netlynx has joined #linux-sunxi
Netlynx has joined #linux-sunxi
popolon has joined #linux-sunxi
mrnuke has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
mrnuke has joined #linux-sunxi
FreezingCold has joined #linux-sunxi
<bonbons>
mzki: not optimal, but you could connect one display via SPI and push framebuffer to it on change
domidumont has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<bonbons>
or with a proper chip in between also have your two displays seen by SOC as a single larger one
imcsk8 has quit [Quit: Reconnecting]
imcsk8 has joined #linux-sunxi
<mzki>
bonbons: do you know of any such chips?
<bonbons>
no, I don't (maybe it's even doable with simple chip-select change at middle of scan-out) though then it mostly depends on what your displays accept as input
<mzki>
bonbons: thanks for the suggestions, i'll try and look for options
<libv>
mzki: i do not seem to remember anything that speaks against using 2 lcdcs at the same time
<libv>
mzki: yes, things are multiplexed, but if your main goal is driving two lcds and nothing else, then you should be able to accomodate for that
<mzki>
libv: interesting, what do you mean by "nothing else"? any non-display related functionality that I'd need to do without?
domidumont has joined #linux-sunxi
<libv>
mzki: depends on which soc and which packaging you use
<mzki>
libv: i'm thinking about an A10 or A20, i guess i would need to find a device that makes the signals needed for the two lcds available
<mzki>
libv: by the way, it wouldn't be possible to use the two lvds channels for two displays woult it?
domidumont has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
<libv>
mzki: nope
<libv>
mzki: please provide the url for the marsboard denial of dual lcd use
<mzki>
libv: it was an email reply to my question about it
pirea has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<libv>
mzki: i would like to see a well founded reason why this would be so
paulk-collins has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
Froolap has joined #linux-sunxi
<mzki>
libv: i basically asked them if it's possible to connect two lcds using 24 bit parallel rgb interface to their CM-A20 module
<libv>
that doesn't mean that the A20 chip cannot handle it
<mzki>
libv: the response reads: "Hi A20 chipset does not support two LCD displays."
<libv>
check out the olimex design for olinuxino-micro
<libv>
then try to find a 1-1 match for the lcd0 interface using lcd1 pins and whatever other pins you need (power gpios and pwm probably)
Froolap has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
<mzki>
libv: on the A20-OLinuXino-MICRO it looks like pin PH1 is used for something related to microSD so not available
<libv>
then see whether you can get that from somewhere else
<mzki>
libv: that marsboard CM-A20 seems to have it available
<libv>
mzki: olimex is oshw, you can adapt it any way you like, and olimex will be happy to do a limited run of your design for you
<mzki>
libv: yeah maybe i'll try to contact them
codekipper has joined #linux-sunxi
<codekipper>
ssvb, ping
<codekipper>
is it possible to boot linux-sunxi kernel with mainline using fel?
<codekipper>
I'm sure I saw a patch that was needed but can't seem to find it...hope it not something that I was dreaming about
<mzki>
libv: thanks for suggesting that it could be possible
<libv>
mzki: verify this for yourself though
Vanfanel has joined #linux-sunxi
Andy-D has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]
MY123 has joined #linux-sunxi
premoboss has joined #linux-sunxi
Andy-D has joined #linux-sunxi
iamfrankenstein has quit [Quit: iamfrankenstein]
<ricardocrudo>
is there any official information about power consumption of A20 CPUs?
iamfrankenstein has joined #linux-sunxi
prz has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
deffrag has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
paulk-collins has joined #linux-sunxi
petr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
aballier has quit [Quit: leaving]
cooper has joined #linux-sunxi
codekipper has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
* cooper
is really impressed with atsampson's progress on the DRAM controller calibration for the Nano.
_massi has quit [Quit: Leaving]
enrico_ has quit [Quit: Bye]
Vanfanel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
Vanfanel has joined #linux-sunxi
ricardocrudo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
<atsampson>
cooper: it's really all ssvb's hard work...
<cooper>
atsampson: I was under the impression that you were doing all those tests?
Vanfanel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
<atsampson>
cooper: I am, but it's ssvb's tools that do the testing and visualisation
<atsampson>
so I'm just tweaking parameters occasionally
Vanfanel has joined #linux-sunxi
<cooper>
Tools, shmools. If I ever meet either of you I'm buying, and you'll end up massively drunk.
<tyler-baker>
anyone have a pointer to the optimus-a80 schematic?
<cooper>
atsampson: Say, since you're playing with nano's aswell, would it be possible for me to see your kernel config?
<cooper>
atsampson: Seems that my board is still showing memory corruption when actively task switching even though I'm fairly confident my toolchain is on the up-and-up.
<cooper>
atsampson: Thinking I may still not have enabled enough or something.
<atsampson>
cooper: for 3.4, I'm just using sun7i_defconfig with CONFIG_SUNXI_GMAC=y (because it needs to boot with root on NFS)
<atsampson>
random flaky behaviour can be caused by power supply problems; how's your PSU?
<cooper>
It's a 12v laptop-type power brick, 70W downconverted to 5v using a buck converter.
<cooper>
It's used to power 2 nano's, a 1-to-5 sata port multiplier and 3 harddisks, all of which are currently idle except for this one nano that's building openssl atm.
leowt has joined #linux-sunxi
<leowt>
what is the status of CedarX decoder?
<leowt>
stable enough to play h264 videos 24/7?
<cooper>
atsampson: Multimeter says 5.01V coming out of the buck converter.
<plaes>
leowt: license status is unclear :)
<leowt>
how so?
<plaes>
allwinner published the main library as LGPL-licensed binary :S
<leowt>
lol
<leowt>
what about using it at *my own risk*
<leowt>
just want to test it out
<plaes>
it's LGPL-licensed, so go ahead :)
<cooper>
atsampson: It's easily adjustable - just a twist of a screw - but I don't know the tolerances. It doesn't show any fluctuation....
FreezingCold has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
<leowt>
plaes, i was looking for a hit on something
<atsampson>
cooper: and it's regulated down from that on the board anyway, so that doesn't sound like a problem...
<leowt>
does it play directly to fb?
<plaes>
dunno, haven't used it
<leowt>
do you know anyone that did? or that worked around it?
<cooper>
atsampson: At ssvb's suggestion I ran cpuburn-a7 along with lima-memtester for a solid day without so much as a hickup.
<plaes>
most of the info is in wiki
<plaes>
I guess, you can get better response from mailinglist
<cooper>
atsampson: Since this is a Gentoo install, I initially had everything built with -O2. Because I was starting to doubt my toolchain (ssvb suggested I might be ricing things a bit too much... lol) I rebuilt everything again using -Os but that didn't make any difference.
<leowt>
plaes k tnks
FreezingCold has joined #linux-sunxi
FreezingCold has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<cooper>
atsampson: Which is why I'm thinking I've got something wrong at the kernel level.
khuey|away is now known as khuey
<atsampson>
cooper: I'm having difficulty thinking of kernel settings that would do that...
FreezingCold has joined #linux-sunxi
<atsampson>
what symptoms are you seeing -- GCC errors?
<cooper>
atsampson: What I'm specifically getting is programs like bash or make dumping core on SIGILL - illegal instruction.
<cooper>
Opening that core file up with gdb shows nothing, even though everything's compiled _with_ frame pointer.
<cooper>
gcc never failed.
<cooper>
The kernel never failed.
<cooper>
System services never failed.
<cooper>
Might just be sheer luck I suppose.
<atsampson>
that's kind of strange...
<atsampson>
presumably if you run the same command again it works?
<cooper>
Yup
<cooper>
It's never twice at the same spot.
<cooper>
But it's fairly reliably reproduced with a make -j3 on glibc.
<cooper>
And I have this behaviour on _both_ my nanos.
<cooper>
I'm not overclocking the board, using the stock device file for u-boot...
<cooper>
atsampson: When you say "multi_v7_defconfig plus the options in http://stuff.offog.org/pcDuino3Nano/extra-config" can I just copy that defconfig file to .config then append the items from that extra-config?
<cooper>
atsampson: I'm wondering if they contradict eachother in any way.
<cooper>
Like one says Y and the other M for something... I donno.
<libv>
leviathanch: is there non available from the fsf?
<libv>
none even
<leviathanch>
only unofficial ones as far as I know
<libv>
leviathanch: ok, perhaps that is a suggestion worth making to fsf/fsc
akaizen has joined #linux-sunxi
<leviathanch>
libv: virtually no one at the company understood the GPL
<leviathanch>
libv: and I was asking around about the multiple times you've emailed them
<leviathanch>
libv: they could remember having received an email, but they did not understand what you were sayin
<leviathanch>
libv: do not mix up good grammatics with actual language skills
<leviathanch>
libv: the reason why there was no reaction was because they didn't get the content of your emails
<leviathanch>
libv: we are discussing with the management right now how to handle the cedar issue properly
<leviathanch>
libv: the issue is: which license I should post to them (it has to be Chinese!)
<libv>
leviathanch: privmsg.
<leviathanch>
libv: ok
<atsampson>
that looks like the GPLv3, which may not be what you want...
Vanfanel has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
<atsampson>
has anyone had any ideas about how device tree overlays should be loaded on sunxi?
<atsampson>
on the Raspberry Pi it's done by the bootloader; on the Beaglebone Black there's a custom driver (capemgr) that calls the kernel functions to load them at runtime
<atsampson>
is it likely to be something u-boot will do?
Andy-D has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
uniqdom has joined #linux-sunxi
jinzo has quit [Quit: Leaving]
<uniqdom>
Hi... I have been using an A20 board for now, and I think that is time to change it. Do you know a friendly board? I mean, a board that that have mainline support
FreezingCold has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<uniqdom>
A board that doesn't infringe GPL.
<uniqdom>
what boards do you guys use?
Andy-D has joined #linux-sunxi
gaara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
<cooper>
atsampson: Built a kernel using multi_v7_defconfig plus the bits in extra-config and it's been rock-solid so far. Rebuilt 40 out of 233 packages on this system with 3 concurrent make jobs without any issues at all.
<cooper>
atsampson: I did however tweak the voltage slightly up aswell. Tried to set it at 5.15 and now it fluctuates between 5.20 and 5.10 while when set to 5.01 it didn't fluctuate at all.
<cooper>
atsampson: I'm going to let this run overnight, see if it completes building the OS (probably needs a bit more time for that). If it does I'll reboot to my previous kernel and see if things are still amiss. When they are, it was the kernel. When things are fine, it was the voltage.
akaizen has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
<atsampson>
cooper: sounds good
<khuey>
uniqdom: a20 runs mainline
<khuey>
uniqdom: you could get something like a raspberry pi 2
<khuey>
not sure how many patches they have in their tree but they are on 3.18 or 19
<uniqdom>
well.. it runs but still lacks audio and other things
pmattern has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
leviathancn has joined #linux-sunxi
cooper has quit [Quit: Off to feed the bed bugs...]