<fALSO>
that they releases a android 8 or 9 image for my board
<fALSO>
orange pi one plus
<fALSO>
i have to try it out
<fALSO>
just to check the failure ;-D
<megi>
MoeIcenowy: there's also some issue with voltage bias on pin banks, that mainline kernel doesn't address yet
<megi>
it's probably only important for the mmc connected wifi
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<megi>
wifi is kind of annoying, it requires bcmdhd driver, which is a mess
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<fALSO>
i have to play a bit more with mine
<fALSO>
i've been just building the kernel for the orange pi pc, always über uptodate
<megi>
I have forward proted the driver from 4.14 to 5.0, but I'm still missing some platform specific stuff, as it hooks directly to mmc driver and elsewhere, and doesn't use DTS
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<fALSO>
Linux orangepipc 5.0.1 #1 SMP Mon Mar 11 14:59:08 WET 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux
<fALSO>
;-D
<megi>
I'll probably just write it off, and wait if Cypress or someone mainlines the support for the wifi chip
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<megi>
fALSO: you're not running linus/master? :)
<fALSO>
well, i could
<fALSO>
;-)
<fALSO>
i've got now a simple config that takes very little to cross compile
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<MoeIcenowy>
megi: is H6 affected?
<MoeIcenowy>
for the Wi-Fi, are you sure brcmfmac doesn't work?
<megi>
yes
<MoeIcenowy>
for which question?
<megi>
both :)
<megi>
ap6256 is not supported by brcmfmac
<MoeIcenowy>
megi: BTW I don't think the Ampak module has any affection with Cypress
<MoeIcenowy>
I think Cypress is only a module vendor like Ampak itself
<MoeIcenowy>
megi: for H6, I haven't seen any registers for voltage changing
<fALSO>
i have a cypress board, signal analyser i think :-)
<mru>
cypress makes the chips
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<MoeIcenowy>
fALSO: CY7C68013?
<mru>
they bought the wifi stuff from broadcom
<fALSO>
im at work now.... not sure
<fALSO>
it was very cheap on ebay, a few years ago
<wens>
MoeIcenowy: no, Cypress bought out Broadcom's IOT, AKA WiFi & BT, division
<fALSO>
and works with the "normal" software
<fALSO>
of analysers
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<MoeIcenowy>
fALSO: if it works with sigrok's fx2lafw, it's CY7C68013 (a.k.a. FX2)
<fALSO>
:-)
<MoeIcenowy>
megi: and I think voltage changing for a whole bank is just changing the corresponding VCC
<MoeIcenowy>
only voltage tweaking within a bank needs special tweak
<MoeIcenowy>
RTL8723BS works here on Pine H64
<fALSO>
i wish i knew more stuff like you
<MoeIcenowy>
both model A and B
<fALSO>
im still afraid of submiting that patch to linux-sunxi
<mru>
for realtek values of "work"
<fALSO>
probably this weekend im going to get the courage to submit it;-D
<megi>
MoeIcenowy: there's a special register in the PIO range of H6 for setting 1.8V/3.3V voltage range (0x340)
<megi>
it's ber bank
<MoeIcenowy>
some of my friend claims Realtek as the WLAN chip vendor that has the least mines in AC era
<megi>
there's even 0x348 that detects the voltage so that you can just copy 0x348 to 0x340 and it works
<megi>
u-boot does that for BSP
<MoeIcenowy>
oh I found that I read the wrong user manual
<MoeIcenowy>
I'm working on V3s/S3/S3L just now
<megi>
ah
<megi>
mmc driver in BSP also changes the bias when switching mmc modes between 1.8V and 3.3V
<MoeIcenowy>
(and found that I just have a ECC-less memory in my brain
<fALSO>
KIKL
<fALSO>
LOL
<megi>
hehe
<MoeIcenowy>
I made too many errors on CCU drivers
<megi>
it's normal, just look at the axp20x masks refactoring in 5.0 :)
<MoeIcenowy>
by the way, H6 seems to have many variants
<megi>
there's like 3 followup patches just fixing typos
<megi>
;)
<MoeIcenowy>
defined by the string below H6 on the mark
<MoeIcenowy>
on Pine H64's they say "V200 AWIN"
<MoeIcenowy>
on the photo of OPi3 at Taobao it says "V200-AI"
<megi>
yesh
<MoeIcenowy>
and I found a taobao shop seels H6 "V200-AI" and "CV200-OS"
<MoeIcenowy>
sells *
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<fALSO>
i wanted to buy one orange with 2gb
<fALSO>
but i will pay a lot in customs :-X
<MoeIcenowy>
fALSO: what's the tax rate of them in your country?
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<fALSO>
its random()
<fALSO>
if its more that 25 EURO
<MoeIcenowy>
oh
<MoeIcenowy>
sorry to hear that
<MoeIcenowy>
for me, there's just no customs between me and Xunlong ;-)
<MoeIcenowy>
only around 4h bus is needed (inter-city bus and intra-city public transportation are both included)
<fALSO>
nice
<fALSO>
i have to wait for like 1 month or 2
<fALSO>
and then when it arrives in portugal... probably one more month in customs
<fALSO>
to pay the same that i already paid
<megi>
fALSO: I've bought Opi3 from aliexpress fr $39 or so, and the post office didn't ask for vat
<fALSO>
kinda of suck
<fALSO>
o bought the orange pi one plus
<wigyori>
fALSO: so that's the same as in hungary
<fALSO>
and it also passed too
<megi>
I'm not sure if Xulong just wrote a different price on the package
<fALSO>
i dont know if you guys know... "gearbest"
<fALSO>
they had some kind of scheme in portugal
<fALSO>
to get stuff here without paying customs
<wigyori>
fALSO: we get random delays on anything over 25eur, so it's unable to calculate on any project start with this
<fALSO>
i dont know where the stuff entered europe... but it worked
<fALSO>
but it has ended now
<MoeIcenowy>
BTW I heard that the one who did Windows port (in fact, UEFI port) for Lumia 950XL and Nintendo Switch got a OPi1+ ;-)
<MoeIcenowy>
China is a big country and for most non-rare electrical components I can find stock inside China
<MoeIcenowy>
and can get it within a week
<MoeIcenowy>
(99% within 3 days
<fALSO>
awesome
<MoeIcenowy>
(85% within 1 day
<fALSO>
i wish i could buy one of those cheap ass 3d printers
<fALSO>
;-D
<MoeIcenowy>
(when it's within 1 day, usually it ships from Shenzhen ;-)
<megi>
fALSO: hmm, I checked the packaging, and it says values 34.9 and yet I did not pay VAT. Random :)
<fALSO>
it is also random() on portugal
<fALSO>
if the guy that works at customs had a good sleep, it passes
<fALSO>
if not... you pay
<fALSO>
;-D
<megi>
hehe
<MoeIcenowy>
the custom tax seems to be random() in any country
<megi>
VAT lottery
<fALSO>
in the UK
<fALSO>
you can calculate it before
<fALSO>
i saw some calculators online
<MoeIcenowy>
at China the tax rate is fixed
<MoeIcenowy>
but the probability for a thing to get tax is not fixed
<MoeIcenowy>
it some value between 0 and 1
<Mangy_Dog>
uk import rate is 20% on anything imported over 15£ + shippers handleing fee which tbh thats where the rip[ off lies
<MoeIcenowy>
so finally the tax rate's mean is still random
<MoeIcenowy>
but I rarely buy things from other countries
<mru>
I once got a call from fedex regarding a parcel I was receiving
<mru>
the woman wasn't sure what the customs declaration meant and wanted me to clarify
<megi>
MoeIcenowy: I can get stuff locally too, it's just like Orange Pi PC: base price $47 + shipping $4, it will come in 2 days :D
<mru>
I explained truthfully what it was, and whe picked a suitable duty-free category
<megi>
and so I buy from china and wait :)
<mru>
*she
<megi>
middlemen kill the price
<MoeIcenowy>
megi: so why will Allwinner start to set a voltage register for H6 PIO?
<megi>
no idea
<MoeIcenowy>
I think they can just always @(posedge clk) PIO_POW_MOD_SEL <= PIO_POW_Val;
<MoeIcenowy>
;-)
<megi>
it's probably easier doing it in u-boot :D
<megi>
I mean why automate things?
<MoeIcenowy>
oh I forgot one thing
<MoeIcenowy>
Pine H64 now uses 3.3V for Wi-Fi
<MoeIcenowy>
because they struggled to get I2S routed to Pi-2 header
<MoeIcenowy>
(finally they robbed I2S from BT
<MoeIcenowy>
and as I2S from BT is from PG
<MoeIcenowy>
PG is 3.3V (Pi-2 header "standard")
<MoeIcenowy>
megi: I even forgot a whole PLL when developing the V3s CCU driver (PLL-DDR1)
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<jaganteki>
mripard_: Let me know or ping me at anytime, if we ned to discuss about MIPI-DSI on A64 patches. I would be happy to discuss, thanks.
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<wens>
shipping fees seem arbitrary :/
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<MoeIcenowy>
jaganteki: is there a git branch that contains the newest usable code?
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<willmore>
Anyone know what dimensions the power jack for the Orange Pi 3 are? Is it the same one used by the PC, PC2?
<willmore>
It's not on the sunxi wiki. I'll put it on there if someone can verify it.
<megi>
willmore: it's the same
<willmore>
Thanks megi. I'll look that up and get the wiki fixed.
<fALSO>
the cheaper ones that i know, like the bananas
<fALSO>
the satan controller is usb based
<fALSO>
lol satan
<fALSO>
SATA
<willmore>
Close enough.
<willmore>
The allwinner SATA controllers are horrible. The USB3 ones can be very good if they support UAS (and the SoC USB3 controller does as well).
<willmore>
But some people don't like the extra step of having the USB<>SATA layer in there which is understandable, but with a lack of native SATA, what'cha gonna do?
<megi>
yeah
<willmore>
the PCI-E on the H6 was hopeful, but I don't know if it's functional enough for a SATA controller--that's beyond my knowledge.
<willmore>
IMHO, a USB3 SATA port is good enough for a little SoC that will only have a single GigE port on it. You'll be able to max out the GigE, so why argue that the USB<>SATA only gives you 300MB/s and not 550 when the ethernet can only move 125 of it on a good day?
<megi>
good point
<willmore>
Now, if you have multiple drives on there (should you find a USB<>SATA chip that supports port replication) then you may have some extra bandwidth needs for RAID processing, but that should never be 2x or so your actual ethernet BW.... So, 300MB/s should be fine.
<willmore>
But, I'd never design such a device as I like my data too much. :)
<willmore>
Sorry, rambling.
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<miasma>
willmore: many home users only need a slow NAS for streaming movies. even rpi is fast enough for them
<miasma>
the pirate movies might require 2-5 Mbps of throughput. kodi can preload and buffer according to the network speed (at least to some extent)
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<tllim>
@willmore, the H6 PCIe can use for Wireless card, Ethernet, and SATA
<tllim>
which has small memeory IO windows
<tllim>
however, the implementation cannot be mainline
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<tllim>
since no developer interest on the H6 PCIe driver implementation due to the limitation, PINE64 drop the miniPCIe slot and in favor on upcoming small RPi size board implementation
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<[TheBug]>
fALSO: ESPRESSOBin has 1 on board SATA and the mPCI-e slot supports multiple sata cards, there are variants between 20-40$ with 2-4 ports that work quite well. So other than the Helios 4 which is another marvell based board that exposes 4 SATA ports to start, thats one of the bext options for NAS, IMO.