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<[TheBug]> im on the only channel where i know there are devs that would know how to answer that for me and probably would do it cause they are geneerous people ;)
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: do you know where should we place the PHY's enable sequence?
<MoeIcenowy> (in case of AC200
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<anarsoul|2> MoeIcenowy: have you tried to boot mainline linux on pinetab?
<anarsoul|2> mine fails in different ways with backtraces like this:
<anarsoul|2> sometimes it just silently fails to boot linux with no messages on console at all
<anarsoul|2> u-boot seems to be working fine and survives memtest for couple hours
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<MoeIcenowy> anarsoul|2: no
<anarsoul|2> MoeIcenowy: any ideas what can be wrong?
<MoeIcenowy> I don't know
<MoeIcenowy> maybe u-boot memtest is still too light load?
<MoeIcenowy> try to lower DRAM freq?
<anarsoul|2> I tried 504, it didn't help
<MoeIcenowy> 360 ;-)
<anarsoul|2> sure
<anarsoul|2> let me try that
<anarsoul|2> nope :(
<MoeIcenowy> is it possible that some DMA happens?
<MoeIcenowy> could you lock CPU at a low frequency?
<anarsoul|2> looks like disabling dvfs helps
<MoeIcenowy> does the same kernel work fine on other A64 boards?
<anarsoul|2> yes
<anarsoul|2> I found the issue
<anarsoul|2> cpu regulator was missing from dts
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<MoeIcenowy> anarsoul|2: I think your kernel adds OPPs higher than 816MHz, right?
<anarsoul|2> yep
<anarsoul|2> up to 1152
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<montjoie> MoeIcenowy: I want to, but I lacked time. Now I have a pdu, the h8homlet is the first board I add for a bring back in kernelci (no a83t in kernelci since the stop of bootlin lab)
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<KotCzarny> i must say that libreelec+stalker addon is one of the best things for H3/A64 (and probably H6)
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<KotCzarny> hmm
<KotCzarny> would it be possible to write commandline tool to enable tv-encoder just in clone mode?
<KotCzarny> or it needs some dynamic config?
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<MoeIcenowy> mripard: where should i put the EPHY encode sequence of AC200?
<libv> KotCzarny: clone of what?
<MoeIcenowy> s/encode/enable/
<MoeIcenowy> (it's needed before the dwmac-sun8i probes the MDIO, as if it's not enabled, the PHY cannot be found
<KotCzarny> libv: of fb displayed via hdmi
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<montjoie> MoeIcenowy: what do you mean by "enable sequence" ?
<libv> KotCzarny: you probably wish to run two different resolutions/timings
<libv> but yes
<libv> you can attach hdmi to either "pipe"
<libv> and the same goes for the dacs for the tv-encoder, and each tcon comes with its own tv encoder
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: seems that some registers in AC200 are need to be poked for the EPHY to run
<libv> you can scan out the same buffer from both tcons
<KotCzarny> can tv encoder be attached to tcon that's already used by hdmi?
* libv digs through the userguide
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: 0x0014 SYS_EPHY_CTL0 contains clock gate / reset for EPHY, 0x0016 SYS_EPHY_CTL1 contains IO enable for EPHY-related pins (RMII intf and LEDs
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: if you mean on H3, no
<MoeIcenowy> H3 TVE uses TCON1
<MoeIcenowy> HDMI uses TCON0
<MoeIcenowy> the TCON1 has even no dotclock in CCU
<MoeIcenowy> it seems that the TCON1 dotclock is feeded from TVE
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: drat, but can they share same fb as libv said?
<MoeIcenowy> maybe
<MoeIcenowy> but you may need the scaling in DE
<libv> MoeIcenowy: hdmi can be switched back and forth
<KotCzarny> so tv-encoder cant be fed with arbitrary resolution in hopes it autoscales?
<libv> between "back-ends"
<MoeIcenowy> KC: no
<MoeIcenowy> libv: what do you mean?
<MoeIcenowy> DE2 pipeline changed a lot
<MoeIcenowy> KC: the TCON should be feed with the correct resolution, and scaling needs to be done in DE2
<KotCzarny> im looking for easy way to enable tv out in clone mode, and since it's not supported in kernel, i thought maybe it could be done via some register banging till it works
<MoeIcenowy> KC: In fact I have did a simple driver for H3 TVE, but dropped after HDMI is working
<libv> ok
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: would it take much work to make it clone whatever hdmi is displaying?
<MoeIcenowy> I don't know
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<mripard> MoeIcenowy: the closest thing I can think of would be a power sequence
<mripard> but I'm not sure how supported it would be in the phy subsystem
<MoeIcenowy> mripard: what's the definition of a power sequence?
<MoeIcenowy> I don't think there's such a kernel object
<mripard> it's pretty loose as far as I can tell, but that would be "anything that need to be enabled so that a discoverable device can be discovered"
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<MoeIcenowy> in fact I'm thinking whether injecting it to dwmac-sun8i
<MoeIcenowy> although it looks very ugly in this way
<montjoie> MoeIcenowy: my first though is to use a custom net PHY driver, but I fear the PHY is called after being detected
<montjoie> and so too late
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: I also think so
<montjoie> unless we could make a "dependency" via the DT
<MoeIcenowy> so I think to inject it to MDIO
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<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: maybe specify a compatible may help?
<montjoie> MoeIcenowy: I think the best way is "ask netdev and more precisily PHY guys" on how to made this dep, people like Andrew Lunn/Florian Fainlelli will have the right answer
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<MoeIcenowy> yes
<montjoie> you will loose less time finding how:)
<montjoie> and if only a hackish way is possible, you will have some sort of "acked-by" to do it
<montjoie> MoeIcenowy: why not in sun8i_dwmac_power_internal_phy() ?
<montjoie> arg internal phy
<montjoie> sorry
<MoeIcenowy> montjoie: from H6 view, it's really internal phy ;-)
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<jernej> KotCzarny: Proper way to have cloned screen would be to use writeback on mixer0 to get composed image and feed that to mixer1 and configure scaling to match CVBS resolution
<jernej> there is shortcut if you're using only one plane on mixer0
<jernej> just set same framebuffer to mixer1 and set scaling
<jernej> BTW, writeback driver is not yet implemented
<KotCzarny> jernej: but hdmi displays some final buffer, no? or it does mixing on-the-go ?
<jernej> hdmi just display displays whatever TCON feeds it
<jernej> mixer is the one which does all processing
<libv> mixer?
<jernej> I suggest looking at page 22 here:
<jernej> pretty nice graphical explanation of DE2 pipeline
<libv> yeah, i just started looking at h6 user guide
<jernej> libv: DE2 doesn't have frontend and backend
<KotCzarny> h6 uses de3 i think
<jernej> well, DE3 is just DE2 with additional features
<MoeIcenowy> KC: I think you're talking about H3, right?
<jernej> principles are the same
<MoeIcenowy> H6 TVE is a totally new story
<KotCzarny> moeicenowy: yes, i have plethora of h3/h2+ devices
<KotCzarny> they are quite useful beasts in themselves
<KotCzarny> mainline linux? check. android? check. libreelec+kodi? check.
<jernej> MoeIcenowy: Not completely, registers are still mostly the same, just different way to access them and more complicated clock setup
<libv> how did we get a hold of that DE2.0 spec file?
<jernej> I asked Wink, AW engineer
<KotCzarny> libv: guy from allwinner uploaded it
<KotCzarny> same for de3
<libv> amazing, i missed that
<libv> is this common now?
<KotCzarny> nah, he didnt came back since then
<jernej> he also uploaded AC200
<KotCzarny> maybe he got fired or moved
<libv> ok, so no real hope to see the gpl violations fixed then :)
<jernej> which ones? H6 is pretty good now
<libv> it's not like those have not been there for most of this decade :)
<jernej> I mean H6 BSP
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<libv> h6 is way too new for me
<libv> last time i really cared about sunxi was 2015
<jernej> I must say I really like H6 regarding video output and HW video decoding
<libv> what puts it apart from say, a20?
<jernej> DE3 has all the bells and whistles, like support for 4K@60Hz, 10bit images, etc.
<jernej> it has HDMI2.0b with support for YUV 4:2:0, 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 and RGB outputs
<jernej> VPU supports 10 bit HEVC @ 4K
<jernej> among other things
<jernej> A20 don't even support HEVC decoding
<libv> a20 was released in 2012 :)
<jernej> and H6 has iommu (not yet implemented in mainline)
<jernej> true
<libv> but ok, seems like a nice step up indeed
<jernej> oh, HDR output is also supported
<KotCzarny> and pcie
<KotCzarny> ;)
<KotCzarny> i mean its there, not that its supported
<libv> i have heard that windowing thing before
<jernej> not in Linux, but it will be in BSDs
<libv> i think that must've been on another SoC family
<libv> rk?
<libv> very hazy though, so not worth thinking about tbh
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<libv> *sigh* i need to run qemu on my armhf rootfs so i can enable the serial console
<libv> thank you lennart.
<KotCzarny> why didnt you just remove the cancer?
<libv> because i do not want to waste time on init systems.
<KotCzarny> why waste, they just work
<libv> too much stuff has piled up, time to go rewrite the rootfs page
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<libv> a symlink from /lib/systemd/system/serial-getty@.service to /etc/systemd/system/ should suffice btw
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<plaes> libv: can you push tsvetan to release lime2 with H3? :D
<Wizzup> I don't think they are pin compatible, are they
<Wizzup> They might do R40.
<plaes> r40 is not pin compatible either
<Wizzup> hm, I thought it was supposed to be
<libv> h6 has only a 10 bit parallel camera input
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<wens> Wizzup: it's an updated a20 with new features, so unlikely to be completely pin compatible
<Wizzup> ah,ok
<wens> notably, MIPI-DSI was added
<wens> and it still has 24-bit RGB input
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<tllim> just on record here, Wink got the approval for Allwinner management that allows him to do so. I have involved and facilitated on making this happens. He is not leaking the Allwinner document and will not be fired. Consider the document relaesed by Wink as official document released by Allwinner to Sunxi community. I just need to make this statement clear so that there is no confuse or speculation.
<elros1> I'm trying to enable wifi and usb in A13 tablet board. Could anybody take a look at it
<ashleyk_> hmmm
<ashleyk_> Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu ("Master Sun", also spelled Sunzi)
<ashleyk_> Sun Xi
<elros1> there is 2.8V supply in wifi board
<ashleyk_> is this chinese gear?
<tllim> Wink still at Allwinner :-) and we stil have active communication. In fact, I may meet up with him on this week in China.
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<elros1> the wifi module is RTL8188CTV
<ashleyk_> Xi Jinping, has anyone checked for hardware backdoors heh
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<tllim> @libv, regarding GPL violation. If you thinks this is still happening and needs to clear up, please stated in "clearly' and "systematically" in Sunxi Wiki and lets me know. I will ask Allwinner folks to review and improve.
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<libv> tllim: the same things we identified way back when still apply, at least they did the last time i checked
<libv> for instance, every nintendo classic is a gpl violation as it clearly carries binaries in its kernel source
<libv> i have refrained from making a big stink about it, because that would just repeat the same old story
<libv> wens: but no oshw boards available, and probably not as well supported as a20, which is why fosdem will still stick with the a20 lime2 for the time being :)
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<tllim> @libv, if Nintendo breaking GPL violation, please bring a big poster and protest in front of Tokyo dome. Please be clear on the responsibility party. If you cannot give a clear info, then should not keep blaming.
<davidebeatrici> KotCzarny: Since you have H3 devices, did you perhaps got the Mali driver to work correctly?
<tllim> I can only help and resolve based on clear statement fact and no interest to spend time on a blank comment.
<davidebeatrici> *get
<libv> tllim: we spent _years_ on this
<libv> with device vendors claiming that allwinner is responsible and allwinner staying silent and dumb
<libv> it clearly is an allwinner problem
<plaes> xiaomi is also using allwinner stuff in their robot vacuums
<libv> tllim: i have put very very clear info on our wiki
<libv> and it has been there since forever, and has remained unresolved
<KotCzarny> davidebeatrici: nope. i just used libreelec by jernej, he used mali blob tho.
<libv> tllim: plus...
<KotCzarny> but everything else was mainline
<libv> there have been many people who came round here and said that they had a direct line of contact, and that it was all nothing i should be shouting about
<davidebeatrici> KotCzarny: Interesting, I will probably try that build. Thank you!
<libv> in one persons case, when he came back from his time at allwinner, he came back in here and confirmed my statements and our findings
<davidebeatrici> For info, the problem with Mali I'm having:
<tllim> @libv, you are dancing around. If you have interest to clear up the GPL violation, give me a clear statement line by line where is the violation.
<jernej> davidebeatrici: I'm using gbm version without X11, so it may not help you much
<libv> hah
<libv> seems like i should go and kill someone on the wiki
<davidebeatrici> Oh, I see. Yes, the issue is probably related to the X11 driver.
<tllim> please noted that you can simply blame based on other company behaviors.
<jernej> IMO X11 is something to avoid on those boards...
<tllim> please noted that you cannot simply blame based on other company behaviors.
<libv> tllim: ok
<libv> tllim: i will put X hours in this now
<libv> and i will make it loud and noisy
<libv> _once_ _again_
<tllim> thanks, state on Sunxi wiki site and lets be on record
<davidebeatrici> jernej: Do you have any recommendations for a desktop environment which doesn't use X11? RIght now I have XFCE, installed with `armbian-config`.
<libv> and then company X and Y will give me crap for it, and then will make shitloads of money off of it
<jernej> davidebeatrici: to be honest, currently my only interest with those boards is LibreELEC, which, as you probably know, doesn't use any desktop
<anarsoul|2> libv: you've got real opportunity to reach out to allwinner. I guess it's up to you whether you want to use it or not.
<KotCzarny> davidebeatrici: define your use case, desktop is too broad
<libv> anarsoul|2: not for the first time
<libv> and each time i go and do this shit
<libv> but i am on it.
<davidebeatrici> jernej: Yeah, I understand. The board I have was in fact supposed to be a media center with Android.
<libv> tllim: where do i send the invoice?
<anarsoul|2> *sigh*
<elros1> any tips how to enable usb or usb based wifi on A13 (kernel 5.0.1)?
<tllim> @libv, invoice?
<libv> tllim: my time is worth something.
<libv> and allwinner has wasted more of its fair share
<tllim> @libv, you are the one make the blame statement, not me. If you needs to get pay, then take back your statement and don't do it
<libv> k.
<tllim> BTW, lets stop here due to I don't want keep pollute Sunxi IRC. Once there is a clear GPL violation statement posted on Sunxi wiki site, I will ask Allwinner to involve.
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<davidebeatrici> KotCzarny: Indeed. I would like to have a desktop environment such as XFCE or Cinnamon, minimal.
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<KotCzarny> but what would you want to do with it
<davidebeatrici> Launch programs and manage multiple windows, nothing else
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<libv> ok, openchrome code stealing dealt with
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<libv> now, nintendo.
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<t3st3r> any ideas why EHCI could fail to initialize on Cubieboard with recent mainline kernel?
<t3st3r> [ 3.029942] ehci-platform: probe of 1c14000.usb failed with error -22
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* t3st3r built like dozens of kernels. And 4.12 still works properly on that thing.
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<t3st3r> However 5.1 RC ... boots, but I don't have EHCI/OHCI which is rather boring. Ironically musb is alive and works.
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<t3st3r> Any recent drastic changes capable of causing EHCI on A10/Cubieboard to fail this way? I'm kinda puzzled.
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<wrmyrx_> hi all :) anyone online and willing to help with a relatively-noob "how do i shove feature x into kernel y" question?
<mru> I prefer using emacs, but some insist vim is better :)
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<anarsoul|2> t3st3r: -22 is -EINVAL, so check where driver returns -EINVAL
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<t3st3r> Hmm thanks for hints.. trying...
<wrmyrx_> (this pertains to nanopi k1+/allwinner h5...) basically just trying to patch a custom HDMI mode into the friendlyarm provided version of android... went through a coupla patch/reflash cycles with the official source code but didn't see anything change in dmesg or logcat during an HDMI boot/hotplug. i think i'm missing something obvious
<t3st3r> Strange thing is that both EHCI and OHCI fail with that error on new kernel. Guess "ehci-platform" and "ohci-platform" are different drivers, yet both fail same way oO
<wrmyrx_> (i know this question doesn't pertain directly to the kernel mainlining work, so if there's a better place i should be asking about this please let me know and i'll ask there :])
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<t3st3r> Both ehci-platform and ohci-platform can return EINVAL in just 2 places - yet there should be some error message.
<t3st3r> However after carefully grinding through dmesg sequence I found some differences. I wonder if something changed in regard to "pinctrl" oO
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<t3st3r> kernel that works did it somewhat different way:
<t3st3r> [ 1.384450] reg-fixed-voltage usb1-vbus: could not find pctldev for node /soc@01c00000/pinctrl@01c20800/usb1_vbus_pin@0, deferring probe
<t3st3r> Now newer kernel wouldn't "defer probe" - and it seems it fails :\
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<davidebeatrici> KotCzarny: Did I ask too much?
<davidebeatrici> (just joking)
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<wrmyrx_> gonna just leave a diff of my attempts thus far here:.. if anyone is able presume to be the obvious thing i'm missing, that'd be much appreciated. or even just to suggest which kernel version would be the safest to pull from and rebuild, assuming that i'm trying to break as little of the stock android image as possible. thanks!
<wrmyrx_> i'm also curious about how to actually set kernel command line arguments on boot... is that something i can poke in an android context without recompiling the entire kernel, i.e., via fastboot? seems helpful for debugging hdmi display mode issues..
<t3st3r> hmm attempts to lurk more tend to bring me to pinctrl vs vbus or so... at least I start to get idea where to look at.
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<arc_phasor> On the bananapi m2m, is the mac address something I provide in the linux distro, or is it built-in on the AP6212?
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<mru> wifi or bluetooth?
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<arc_phasor> i guess both haha
<arc_phasor> i'll be using wifi and ble
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<mru> I have a few boards with ap6210
<mru> they have a mac address programmed for wifi but not bluetooth
<mru> I don't know if this is typical
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<libv> tllim: is getting good bandwidth to hetzner: 87.3, 66.4, 88.5 respectively for 2.6G, 2.3G, 10G
<libv> still waiting for the h6 lychee sdk to finally make it through my dsl connection
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<tllim> ^^^ noted
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