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<wens> where is this happening?
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<anarsoul|2> wens: <jernej> I found this bug in nkmp clock code
<anarsoul|2> I suspect it's in ccu_nkmp_set_rate()
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<wens> I believe this would only happen if .width for one of the factors was 0
<wens> IIRC there are a few clocks that do this
<wens> Android Q requires Vulkan 1.1 .... wonder when Allwinner would update its GPU again lol
<anarsoul|2> no more mali400? :)
<wens> one source listed it as a requirement, while others say it's an option :/
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<anarsoul|2> wens: "We're working together with our device manufacturer partners to make Vulkan 1.1 a requirement on all 64-bit devices running Android Q and higher, and a recommendation for all 32-bit devices."
<wens> ah, so everyone will just stay on 32-bit lol
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<plaes> jernej: have to test
<plaes> do you have the patch?
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<Mangy_Dog> so the plan is to run a flavour of retropie on the orange pi zero plus 2 (what ever its converluted name is) But the developer of RetroOrangePi says H5 isnt suported yet... And from what i can gather, the Mali400 graphics chip hasnt got drivers yet... That true? What about the rasbian build that Orange Pi released for the board? Is that incomplete?
<Mangy_Dog> does it have no graphics acceliration on it yet
<KotCzarny> that's a long story
<Mangy_Dog> oh dear :(
<KotCzarny> there is no 2d accel on Hxx, 3d accel is worked on, same for video accel
<Mangy_Dog> they got what ever they needed working on the h3?
<KotCzarny> h3/h5 is very similar
<Mangy_Dog> same graphics chip
<Mangy_Dog> mali 400
<KotCzarny> i think h5 has mali450
<Mangy_Dog> oh
<Mangy_Dog> actually yeah i think your right
<KotCzarny> 'you're'
<KotCzarny> in case armbian doesnt have H5 build
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<KotCzarny> but, isnt there retropi os that integrates everything needed already?
<KotCzarny> you could also use h3droid with retropi app
<Mangy_Dog> the retropi os seems to be only built for broadcom chips
<fALSO> theres a kodi
<fALSO> by jernej
<fALSO> for h3
<fALSO> with aceleration
<KotCzarny> fALSO: he beeds emu platform
<KotCzarny> *needs
<fALSO> LIBREELEC
<KotCzarny> and what i had in mind was RetrOrangePi
<Mangy_Dog> yeah
<Mangy_Dog> thats the guy that says h5 isnt suported yet
<Mangy_Dog> maybe this year he said :(
<Mangy_Dog> not doubting him
<Mangy_Dog> but were still in the begining of this year :p
<Mangy_Dog> theres a lot of year left
<fALSO> ;-D
<KotCzarny> but it's based on retropie and armbian
<Mangy_Dog> if its within the next couple of months. I can live with that
<KotCzarny> so you can try brewing something yourself
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<Mangy_Dog> well im willing to try
<Mangy_Dog> but my coding skills arent good enough to write an entire driver :p
<Mangy_Dog> so the hardware needs to be fully suported first tbh
<Mangy_Dog> my problem is really... im utterly new to all things Pi...
<Mangy_Dog> ive done shit tons of embedded hardware and processors
<Mangy_Dog> but Pi... nothing at all
<Mangy_Dog> I have no idea how it works tbh
<Mangy_Dog> so its all a bit clueless
<Mangy_Dog> which is why i come here asking stupid questions :p
<KotCzarny> have you got any mobile experience?
<KotCzarny> because those dev boards could be thought as mobos from mobile phones/tablets
<Mangy_Dog> what like java dev for android?
<Mangy_Dog> oh hardware wise.... tbh no but its not a concept thats hard to get around
<KotCzarny> where you add interfaces yourself, and you are responsible for adding software support
<Mangy_Dog> thats doable i guess, still a fair bit to learn
<Mangy_Dog> but there is still going to be a certain amount of plug n play i expect...
<KotCzarny> linux-sunxi folks have done a lot of work to write open source drivers for allwinner socs
<Mangy_Dog> Such as I install retropie software... The software and emus will use the graphics chip as they should at the correct acceliration
<KotCzarny> so you can run mainline linux without much hassle
<KotCzarny> once you have linux, you can add things, like display, touchpad, and user ui with software
<Mangy_Dog> when you say linux, do you mean the utter base kernal? command line with nothing else?
<KotCzarny> armbian does the kernel+debian/ubiuntu images for you
<Mangy_Dog> for the H5?
<Mangy_Dog> with all hardware working?
<KotCzarny> dont know current status
<KotCzarny> long time ago they've described what works and what doesnt on download pages
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<KotCzarny> so you would have to peruse their forums for details
<MoeIcenowy> the Mali-450 on H5 is a nightmare
<MoeIcenowy> no one can get it working on GNU/Linux
<MoeIcenowy> go for a H3 instead
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: that's sad
<MoeIcenowy> and H5 is discontinued
<MoeIcenowy> for something 64-bit, go H6
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<wens> :/
<KotCzarny> but h6 is a nightmare itself too
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: not totally
<Mangy_Dog> well i have an H5
<MoeIcenowy> the main problem is PCIe
<Mangy_Dog> so its kinda what im stuck with here
<MoeIcenowy> BTW I have tried some blob provided by Allwinner for H6
<MoeIcenowy> and it runs Kodi with GPU
<MoeIcenowy> (of course decoding is not ready
<Mangy_Dog> oh thats another thing... Blob files.... umm
<Mangy_Dog> what are they and where do they do? I assume they are text based driver files?
<KotCzarny> no, blobs == binaries without sources
<Mangy_Dog> oh ok
<KotCzarny> check what works and what doesnt yourself
<Mangy_Dog> thanks reading it now
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<Mangy_Dog> hmm wheres the list of saying what it suports?
<Mangy_Dog> hardware wise?
<Mangy_Dog> though whats lighter debian or unbutu?
<KotCzarny> this channel is for hardware support, for armbian questions.. try #armbian ?
<KotCzarny> s/support/development/
<Mangy_Dog> ohhh sorry i missread,
<Mangy_Dog> see what works and doesnt work myself... Ie install it and see what runs or not :p
<KotCzarny> yes
<Mangy_Dog> thought it was going to have a table of currently suported hardware
<KotCzarny> interesting tidbit, i2s not supported yet on h5?
<KotCzarny> or just not updated table?
<Mangy_Dog> is GPADC general perpous analogue to degital converter? IE analogue GPIO pins?
<Mangy_Dog> which i know the H5 doesnt have adc so it saying not suported isnt an issue? :D
<megi> KotCzarny: i2s is supported
<Mangy_Dog> or does it mean it wont suport it if i put in a adc chip
<KotCzarny> there was historically gpadc block related to touchscreen in socs
<KotCzarny> most folks used thermal reading from it
<KotCzarny> dont know if it had any other uses
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<KotCzarny> megi: why red 'no' in status matrix then? broken patches? or it's already in kernel?
<Mangy_Dog> if i do have touch screen it would likely be through usb
<megi> it's the same hw as H3
<KotCzarny> Mangy_Dog: also, if there is 'N/A' in matrix, it means there is no hardware for particular soc
<Mangy_Dog> yeah
<Mangy_Dog> just figured that out :p
<Mangy_Dog> No means theres hardware but not suported yet
<megi> KotCzarny: I guess the table is not updated, until recently it said SMP is not supported on H6, yet it was, etc.
<Mangy_Dog> abnd yeah i see the i2s not suported yet
<KotCzarny> Mangy_Dog: but according to megi it is
<Mangy_Dog> though in this case i dont need i2s with this h5 board.... as it has audio out
<Mangy_Dog> nodnods
<Mangy_Dog> theres a ? over NAND does that mean that the built on flash chip might not be accesable?
<KotCzarny> mostly
<KotCzarny> nand is another funny topic
<Mangy_Dog> heh
<KotCzarny> basically it works, but needs to be reformatted to support mainline nand driver
<KotCzarny> see the link and attached pages for details
<Mangy_Dog> k
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<willmore> wens, sadly, you're probably right. What used to be 64 bit versions of Android P will now be 32bit in Q so that they can get away without having Vulkan 1.1. :( Progress?
<KotCzarny> half the ram reqs?
<KotCzarny> :)
<MoeIcenowy> mripard: how to test "supports_lowest_plane_alpha" property of a SoC's DEBE?
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<willmore> KotCzarny, not that old 'won't someone think of the pointers?' arguement. :P
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<jernej> KotCzarny, MoeIcenowy: I have LibreELEC port for H6, which already works pretty well, including HW video decoding. Stability is not there yet, but that will be worked out eventually.
<jernej> I think other AW SoCs needed much more time to get to this level in mainline.
<fALSO> awesome
<mripard> MoeIcenowy: on SoCs affected by this bug, any pixel that has some alpha will have the pixel disappear entirely
<fALSO> i could try it on the orange pi one plus jernej
<mripard> MoeIcenowy: so using either the global alpha property, or an ARGB framebuffer with the alpha value set to anything else than 255 will tell you
<jernej> fALSO: I have only PineH64 image at hand, because DT files for OrangePi H6 boards are not filled
<jernej> with all nodes that are needed
<fALSO> i have a patch for mine, just to enable ethernet
<fALSO> LOL
<jernej> mostly because I don't have them and can't test them
<fALSO> it doesnt even have hdmi output working
<fALSO> at least for me :-P
<jernej> as I said, some noded, including those for HDMI, are missing
<jernej> *nodes
<fALSO> hehe
<jernej> I started persuading people who have local changes to send it upstream
<jernej> DT changes
<jernej> but it seems nobody wants to learn few things to do that
<fALSO> im afraid of submiting my patch
<fALSO> you can submit it if you want ;-)
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<fALSO> enabled ethernet and "saving" of the mac address
<fALSO> enables
<jernej> why are you afraid? nobody bites :)
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<fALSO> the ML seems to be very SERIOUS BUSINESS
<fALSO> And since i never did that,, im a bit afraid
<fALSO> LOL
<[TheBug]> fALSO: They only nibble, they don't bitew
<[TheBug]> bite*
<[TheBug]> ;p
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<MoeIcenowy> to be honest when I was bringing up H6
<MoeIcenowy> I took a leave of absense because of some mental disorder
<wens> jernej: how so # other AW SoCs needed much more time to get to this level in mainline
<jernej> well, I maybe speak too broadly
<jernej> but at least most IP blocks are similar enough to those in previous SoCs
<jernej> so for a lot of them just small adjustments were needed
<MoeIcenowy> jernej: DRAM controller is a large difference
<jernej> yeah, but that one block out of many
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<MoeIcenowy> USB3 and PCIe is new ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> USB3 is quite standard
<MoeIcenowy> but PCIe is cursed
<jernej> tbh, I don't really care much about PCIe
<mru> and here I thought usb was cursed by definition
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<MoeIcenowy> I'm just saying about IP integration, not about the protocol myself
<wens> jernej: ah, I mis-read your comment
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<fALSO> moeicenowy, hope you get better
<fALSO> i was also on anti depressents a few months ago
<fALSO> because of bad things in my life, and in my head
<Mangy_Dog> strange
<fALSO> now im fine again ;-D
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<Mangy_Dog> the Opi zero plus 2 doesnt turn on when you put 5v on the 5v pine of the secondary pins out
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<Mangy_Dog> powers on via otg
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<willmore> jernej, how do you feel about the Orange Pi One for LibreELEC?
<jernej> willmore: How much RAM it has? 512 MiB?
<jernej> We concentrated on boards with at least 1 GiB, so I would say it doesn't work well
<jernej> albeit I did few memory optimizations, it is probably still not enough
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> jernej: hi. do you know, is lucize from forum here? hi ask you about a20
<willmore> jernej, I think it's got 512.
<willmore> I guess I'll stick with C2's for LibreELEC
<jernej> willmore: Older OpenELEC 7 should still work good enough, albeit it's hard to find images these days
<jernej> I almost lost ability to build them myself, because some packages were hosted on private server, which went down
<jernej> but fortunatelly owner was able to retrieve temp
<jernej> JohnDoe_71Rus: I don't know
<jernej> s/temp/them
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<Mangy_Dog> whats the difference between armbian bionic and armbian stretch?
<Mangy_Dog> one verison command line one version desktop?
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<kilobyte> bionic is Ubuntu, stretch is Debian
<kilobyte> Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian but has quite a lot of changes
<Mangy_Dog> im suspecting hten that bionic being ubuntu its a bit more ram heavy than base debian?
<Mangy_Dog> then
<Mangy_Dog> or are they about the same?
<Mangy_Dog> tbh im kinda looking for the more streamlined os this is going to be running a handheld gaming thingy
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<Mangy_Dog> does the sd card need to be given a special name to get the orange pi to boot from it?
<JohnDoe_71Rus> no need
<Mangy_Dog> hmm ok
<Mangy_Dog> and doh turns out i didnt actually copy the files over to the sd card just read the img D:
<Mangy_Dog> stupid dog
<Mangy_Dog> wow this sd card is not fast
<Mangy_Dog> 3MB write D:
<Mangy_Dog> just one i had lying arouind
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<voodoovood> hello guys, it is possible to get audio work in kernel 5.0.2 ? option SND_SUN50I_CODEC_ANALOG enabled, dtsi &sound enabled okay
<voodoovood> &codec_analog, &codec also Okay
<anarsoul|2> works for me on A64
<anarsoul|2> on pine64, pine64-lts and pinebook
<voodoovood> anarsoul - possible to get yours sun50i-a64-olimex.dts and kernel .config?
<voodoovood> a think if i will compare it - i will find the difference
<anarsoul|2> my sun50i-a64-olimex.dts doesn't differ from yours. I guess you lack audio routes. Check dts for pinebook or pine64
<anarsoul|2> well, actually looks like sun50i-a64-olimex.dts is not mainlined
<anarsoul|2> at least I don't see it in 5.0
<voodoovood> anearsoul - shoud you send me your dts?
<voodoovood> i will try to merge it somehow - because mmc, wifi and ethernet is working in my config
<voodoovood> okay, thank you very much for your support - can you just give me a hint - what to take care?
<anarsoul|2> try 'git log arch/arm64/boot/dts/allwinner/sun50i-a64-pinebook.dts'
<anarsoul|2> find a commit that enabled audio there
<anarsoul|2> make similar for your board
<voodoovood> no need to patch kernel sources?
<anarsoul|2> probably dts should be enough
<voodoovood> thank you very much for your support :D :D
<anarsoul|2> np
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<voodoovood> [ 1.784775] ALSA device list: [ 1.787784] #0: Loopback 1
<voodoovood> still just loopback - i have added it just for alsa test
<Mangy_Dog> wtff....... 4 times now win32 diskimager is failing to actually format and install the image onto an sd
<Mangy_Dog> it says complete... then i load the sd into the orange pi boot up and goes back
<voodoovood> i have copied sections: speaker_amp: audio-amplifier {, &codec {, &codec_analog {, &dai {,&sound {
<Mangy_Dog> the sd some how reverts to the file system it had before... the file system i deleted the partition of
<voodoovood> Mangy_dog, setup an tftp upload
<voodoovood> boot over network for testing
<Mangy_Dog> the pi has that chinese android system installed
<Mangy_Dog> cant even get any kind of boot menu
<voodoovood> anarsoul|2 i have missed the mixer0 and i2s2
<Mangy_Dog> going to try etcher now to put teh image on the disk
<voodoovood> it is need?
<KotCzarny> boot armbian and nuke start of mmcblk1 (or 0)
<KotCzarny> or clone sdcard to emmc
<Mangy_Dog> cant do any of that
<anarsoul|2> voodoovood: mixer0 and i2s2 aren't related
<Mangy_Dog> its going straight into this android install thats already on the po
<Mangy_Dog> pi
<KotCzarny> nah
<anarsoul|2> i2s2 is for HDMI
<KotCzarny> sdcard has higher boot priority
<KotCzarny> so just write your armbian right
<Mangy_Dog> trying :)
<Mangy_Dog> i think win32disk imager was pooping
<Mangy_Dog> so trying etcher
<Mangy_Dog> see how that goes
<voodoovood> anarsoul|2 - one error in kernel log: [ 0.214362] sun50i-de2-bus 1000000.de2: Error couldn't map SRAM to device
<KotCzarny> rmemeber that armbian does some housekeeping on first boot, so observe uart log
<anarsoul|2> voodoovood: did you find the commit that enabled audio for pinebook?
<Mangy_Dog> i havnt got uart setup yet
<Mangy_Dog> i mean not got a serial reader jsut yet
<Mangy_Dog> i mean setup
<Mangy_Dog> anywayu
<anarsoul|2> *sigh*
<Mangy_Dog> im just trying to get a basic linux running to see it working
<voodoovood> just a second
<Mangy_Dog> tbh im half impressed i managed to get my old logitek leonardo to work with it
<anarsoul|2> voodoovood: I expected you to look into 'git log arch/arm64/boot/dts/allwinner/sun50i-a64-pinebook.dts' output
<MoeIcenowy> voodoovood: this error appear for once is normal
<MoeIcenowy> because DE2 probes before SRAM controller
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<willmore> Can anyone with an H6 board tell me if it supports the ARM crypto insturctions?
<willmore> The sunxi page doesn't say--like it does for the H5 and A64.
<KotCzarny> i think you can check in irc log
<KotCzarny> and i think it was faster than h5
<willmore> good point..
<KotCzarny> and by think, i mean: i think it was discussed and checked
<willmore> Nothing found in my logs.
<willmore> no line has 'aes' and 'h6' in it.
<willmore> well, some had H6 and aes as a substring of pleas. :)
<fALSO> theres a WIP link in there for h6
<willmore> fALSO, that's for the crypto unit which a completely different thing.
<fALSO> Ahh sorry then :-X
<willmore> No worries.
<KotCzarny> :)
<KotCzarny> ok, i remembered wrong
<willmore> The only mentions of AES in the datasheet are for the crypto engine....
<willmore> KotCzarny, hey, that was me! :) So, I'm seeing a 'no' on the AES instructions on H6 question. :( If anyone wants to correct that, please let me know.
<montjoie> willmore: /proc/cpuinfo show aes
<KotCzarny> if i read it right, yes, h6 is fast at aes
<KotCzarny> but weirdly so only at aes-128-cbc
<KotCzarny> some test gone wrong?
<KotCzarny> ok, bad test by the user, fixed results few posts down: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/4583-rock64/?page=6&tab=comments#comment-37827
<KotCzarny> erm. nvm. opipc2 is h5.
<KotCzarny> but there are results for opi1+ too, which is h6
<KotCzarny> and yes, looks like aes is in arm cores
<KotCzarny> for logs reasons i will paste:
<KotCzarny> Orange Pi One Plus / H6 @ 1800 MHz:
<KotCzarny> aes-256-cbc 202708.41k 470698.97k 692581.21k 802039.13k 840761.34k
<willmore> montjoie, For H6? okay, thanks.
<willmore> Cool, thanks.
<KotCzarny> willmore: a7 has ~20mb/s instead of 840mb/s of a53 on h6 ;)
<willmore> Which A7 was that?
<willmore> H3?
<KotCzarny> yup
<willmore> Okay, that matches what I was thinking for A7. that's good enough for uSD, but not enought for eMMC.
<willmore> That H6 result is pretty darn impressive. I would have guessed less than half that.
<MoeIcenowy> Features: fp asimd evtstrm aes pmull sha1 sha2 crc32 cpuid
<MoeIcenowy> cpuinfo for H6
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<willmore> Weren't we seeing 250MB/s for 1.3GHz quad A53s?
<KotCzarny> nah
<KotCzarny> its just arm
<KotCzarny> and scales with clockspeed
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, thank you!
<KotCzarny> which is ~1.8ghz for h6
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: 1.8 needs really gooooooooood cooling
<willmore> Scaling with clock speed is what I thought, but 1.8 isn't that much bigger than 1.3...
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<willmore> MoeIcenowy, got a LN2 dewer?
<KotCzarny> willmore: just read the thread, its nice
<willmore> okay...
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<KotCzarny> and mind you, post is authored by tkaiser
<KotCzarny> :>
<willmore> KotCzarny, what is that 840 number from? Is that a cryptsetup benchmark?
<MoeIcenowy> willmore: maybe with LN2 it can be higher?
<KotCzarny> nope, openssl speed -evp -elapsed
<willmore> If it's an openssl value that it's not useful in this context.
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, should I try? :)
<willmore> KotCzarny, okay, that's why it sounds crazy.
<MoeIcenowy> willmore: if you have so much spare money ;-)
<KotCzarny> willmore, nah, it's only crazy if you forget 'elapsed' param
<KotCzarny> with elapsed it shows proper numbers
<KotCzarny> ie. comparable between runs/boards
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, I don't. ;( Nor do I have a place to sell me LN2 anymore. I used to in college. I do have a 10L dewer. Don't ask...
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<KotCzarny> is it me or 'no lead' directive and LN2 dont mix?
<MoeIcenowy> to be honest I have no experience about LN2
<mru> ln2 as liquid nitrogen?
<willmore> mru, yes
<willmore> KotCzarny, why?
<mru> played with it a little back at uni
<mru> long time ago
<KotCzarny> brittle solder?
<mru> fun stuff
<MoeIcenowy> to be honest, now I usually even do not install any heatsink on my SBC
<willmore> mru, same here. Could buy it at chem stores. Was cheaper than milk. Lead to some fun weekends.
<MoeIcenowy> except it come with one (pre-installed or come within the package)
<willmore> KotCzarny, not sure the properties of it at low temps.
<MoeIcenowy> BTW
<MoeIcenowy> I'm now thinking about start a chip identification project on wiki
<willmore> MoeIcenowy, I heatsink all the things. I use thermally conductive epoxy in place of the little pads that often come with heatsinks--or the sticky tape stuff.
<MoeIcenowy> to dig out as much as possible infomation about a chip
<[TheBug]> me too ^
<willmore> What kind of ID are you looking for?
<MoeIcenowy> willmore: e.g. the real model
<MoeIcenowy> I think it's related to the "bonding id" (in SS/CE except for suniv)
* willmore doesn't understand
<MoeIcenowy> willmore: Allwinner tend to do chip renames
<MoeIcenowy> for examples, A64 renamed to R18
* willmore nods
<MoeIcenowy> because A64 standard solution uses Android, R18 uses Tina
<willmore> I thought the wiki already did a lot of that.
<MoeIcenowy> willmore: but there's no bonding id to real model conversion table
<willmore> Market segments, same dies, bonded out differently, different OS support, etc.
<willmore> okay.
<MoeIcenowy> and sometimes SID will contain some info
<MoeIcenowy> e.g. the speed bin of H6
<willmore> Want me to run something on all my allwinner boards?
<MoeIcenowy> (BTW I heard that the worst H6 is sold as "H6 CV200-OS"
<willmore> If you make a tool to collect the info, I can run it on several H2+, H3, H5, and one A64.
<KotCzarny> watch out, she is a hacker :P
<MoeIcenowy> BTW sth interesting
<MoeIcenowy> The sun8iw7 is said to have 2 revisions
<MoeIcenowy> (sun8iw7 is H2+/H3
<willmore> KotCzarny, for one, I trust her. For two, I imagine for a tool to do what it needs, it's going to be a standalone chunk of code running close to the bare metal and will have to be booted from an uSD card.
<KotCzarny> just kidding
<MoeIcenowy> and it has p1/p2
<willmore> I have an old H2+ and a newer one. :)
<willmore> Might even spew results to the serial port or something as HDMI is too much of a pain for such a task.
<MoeIcenowy> I will think of utilizing FEL to do it ;-)
<willmore> So, send it over via FEL and read the results back how?
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<KotCzarny> via fel tool?
<MoeIcenowy> do all register operations via FEL
<MoeIcenowy> it's what I usually use to do experiments
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<Mangy_Dog> this is seriously strange
<Mangy_Dog> so i ended up formatting that sd card... full deletion, ran the sd imager to put the armbian build on it... finished that. unloaded the sd card put it back in.... and the files that i deleted and then full reformated over were back
<Mangy_Dog> a whole host of wtf
<KotCzarny> wrong mmcblk :P
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<Mangy_Dog> deffo the correct card i even tripple checked to see im not overwritign another card somewher e:p
<Mangy_Dog> this is the only one plugged in
<Mangy_Dog> trying a different card now maybe that 8giger is dead
<KotCzarny> you have emmc on that board
<KotCzarny> :P
<Mangy_Dog> ononno im doing this on my windows machine
<Mangy_Dog> putting the armbian image onto the sd card
<Mangy_Dog> or at least trying to
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<Mangy_Dog> right even stranger
<Mangy_Dog> i think some how possibly, windows imager thing.... actually capied the image off teh old sd card....... and placed it into the armbian image
<Mangy_Dog> :D
<Mangy_Dog> i think basically i accidently overwrit it
<KotCzarny> you might as well accept that you arent very good at it
<Mangy_Dog> hehehe
<Mangy_Dog> indeed
<Mangy_Dog> ha
<Mangy_Dog> that was it
<Mangy_Dog> working now
<Mangy_Dog> damn that was so stupid
<Mangy_Dog> litually what happened, I think i hit read on windows32imger... so that overwrit the image file
<Mangy_Dog> and every time i tried to put a new image on it was reading that..............
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<Mangy_Dog> right so debian is actually command line only, and the bionic one is unbuntu which is the desktop version
<Mangy_Dog> ive not actually used linux in many many many years
<KotCzarny> adding desktop to armbian is just oneliner away
<Mangy_Dog> apt_get unbuntu?
<Mangy_Dog> ubuntu
<KotCzarny> i will let it for you as a homework
<Mangy_Dog> heh
<Mangy_Dog> its ok goign to try ubuntu
<Mangy_Dog> i do need to learn linux commandline tbh
<Mangy_Dog> its a todo thing
<Mangy_Dog> and ill be doing a lot of that when i work on this project
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