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<libv> N1teHawk: thanks for bpi_ledset, now the bpi can remain as a fosdem video hw video source.
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<mps> where latest bpi_ledset can be found? I have old one. built it few years ago, iirc
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<libv> mps: banana pi device page
<libv> the led section is another nice example as to why the sunxi wiki is important.
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<karlp> has there been any work on exposing leds attached to phys in device tree?
<karlp> I know it's been a long time coming on leds on other "extra gpios"
<libv> these leds are accessible through mdio only, as they are tied to the phy
<mps> libv: yes, found it there. thanks
<libv> dt, i did not look into that
<libv> i just wanted the horrible blue led to stop
<libv> and i have a pair of "fosdem standard" bpis here, one of which is used to provide the hdmi test signal that we are capturing
<KotCzarny> lol @ horrible blue led
<libv> the other is still in the frankenvideobox we had in the graphics/hwe devroom in february
<libv> fosdem standard, as these were bought before the guys who are in charge of video now took over
<libv> as we should've just asked tsvetan for some of his devices
<libv> instead of these horrible $hitpies
<libv> so disabling the leds is a quick fix, and i do not intend to investigate or write up code to make these configurable through dt :)
<libv> i was tempted to take out a soldering iron before, and if that failed, it would've been hammer time ;)
<mps> yes, blueled on bpi is quite annoying, as blue leds everywhere especially when blinks
<libv> N1teHawks little tool saved a bpi today :)
<libv> mps: yeah, seems like they popped up in everything from 2005-2015
<libv> i hope we are beyond that now
<libv> yes, they are chinese cheap now, but no, you shouldn't
<karlp> oh, wasnt' suggesting you do the work, just curious if it had even started. I know how outrageously long it has taken to make any progress on DT exposing extra gpios on things like ft23x and cp210x usb devices, let alone actually hooking leds up there.
<karlp> quick skim through the device tree bindings show that there is no work complete yet on leds on mdio :)
<libv> :)
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<plaes> libv: black tape :D
<gediz0x539> libv: it's off-topic but i want to ask while you're there, do you think it may cause a problem to share watermarked allwinner documents on the wiki?
<libv> gediz0x539: it has not so far
<libv> gediz0x539: allwinner would seriously bite the hand that feeds it
<libv> gediz0x539: we're in a grey zone, but... allwinner would've been long dead if it wasn't for us and the cubieboard
<gediz0x539> no doubt
<libv> plaes: i would've had to find my isolating tape first
<libv> gediz0x539: i still have the things you handed me 1-2 years ago
<libv> perhaps i should take a few mins away from the fosdem work, and do that now
<gediz0x539> i thought you did not find them valuable
<libv> (i was getting annoyed by the stupidity and crutchiness of drm leases, so i need to do something useful)
<libv> gediz0x539: nope, just got interrupted away by other things
<gediz0x539> i see. they came pretty useful for me. we've developed a som with a64, trying to publish it on the wiki.
<libv> cool :)
<gediz0x539> thanks. btw, last thing. it may be a little bit more serious: https://linux-sunxi.org/File:DesignWare_Cores_LPDDR4x_multiPHY_Utility_Block_(PUB).pdf
<gediz0x539> should it be removed?
<libv> what does the PUB mean?
<KotCzarny> phy utility block
<KotCzarny> ;)
<gediz0x539> i have no idea
<KotCzarny> (p)hy (u)tility (b)lock
<libv> what KotCzarny said indeed
<libv> not "public"
<libv> but i do feel a bit more uneasy about that one
<libv> could this instead be turned in a link to a .cn site?
<gediz0x539> sure thing
<gediz0x539> last two revisions
<libv> :)
<gediz0x539> i can link to the original source but it's embarrasing to download something from csdn
<gediz0x539> i better find a .cn site as you said
<libv> h616 has g2d?
<gediz0x539> according to the manuals, yes but I could not get my hands on any actual hardware
<libv> iirc that was a10 and a20 only
<libv> anyway, strange
<gediz0x539> i looked at a20 docs to see if there's any difference but g2d is not mentioned there
<libv> yeah, don't worry about it too much
<libv> just something that popped out to me
<gediz0x539> okay :)
<libv> gediz0x539: is there anything of the a64 stuff that you have already spent time on?
<libv> so i am not doing double work
<libv> the mr-wu reference design sdk you handed over last december
<libv> (not even 11 months ago, my brain remembered this being much longer ago still)
<gediz0x539> :)
<gediz0x539> actually it was mostly hardware, as you know. and software side was dependent on legacy kernel.
<libv> ah, you added a mega link
<gediz0x539> it was useful while routing DRAM, so not too much
<gediz0x539> yep
<libv> it will have some use to someone, so it makes sense for us to carry it
<gediz0x539> agree
<libv> especially since this is allwinners own stuff, and allwinner owes the sunxi community big time
<libv> ok, doing some busywork for an hour, will feel more useful than facepalming from looking at fd.o stuff
<gediz0x539> thanks again
<gediz0x539> fd.o? freedesktop?
<libv> yes, very long and very sordid history, annoys me everytime i run into stupidity. this time it is drm leases, which i will avoid for the fosdem video hw box tool
<libv> i need to drive 2 display pipelines in as close to realtime as possible for conference use
<gediz0x539> does not sound easy :)
<libv> it could be
<libv> but it isn't
<gediz0x539> i wish i could help
<libv> which is what is annoying
<libv> nah, my own brain and long built up sensibilities
<gediz0x539> oh ok then
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<gediz0x539> there were also (google) translated ones
<gediz0x539> which one is more suitable do you think?
<gediz0x539> it's also nice to have them in dl.linux-sunxi.org, imho.
<libv> get me a link or so :)
<libv> i need to trawl through H3 and A83T still
<libv> and A63
<libv> still in my inbox ;)
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<gediz0x539> you're right :
<gediz0x539> https://linux-sunxi.org/A64#Documentation A64-SDK-HDK-Release-2015 (both Mega and Drive links) are translated
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<libv> i'm right about translation?
<libv> i had no idea ;)
<libv> i just went and google translated the filenames
<libv> imho it might lose too much context to google translate whole documents
<libv> people should do that for themselves
<libv> but with translated filenames people can at least find what they need
<gediz0x539> you're right about requiring a link :D
<gediz0x539> okay it sounds reasonable
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<gediz0x539> another thing, what is the bare minimum to create a page for a new SoC?
<gediz0x539> i got datasheets/user manuals for some new ones but do not have any further info
<gediz0x539> i try to upload them to the wiki right away but they are not referenced from other pages
<bauen1> gediz0x539: i would say that the datasheets / user manuals are already enough
<bauen1> of course some additional information, e.g. available SBCs, release date and what not would be nice
<bauen1> having a page for an SoC makes it easy to link to other relevant information, e.g. a page documenting the memory or certain peripherals
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<wens> karlp: IIRC there was an RFC on the mailing lists recently # PHY LEDs
* karlp cheers
<wens> karlp: "netdev trigger offloading and LEDs on Marvell PHYs" is what you want to look for
<wens> weird, this is not the series I remember :|
<wens> right, the original proposal email was "Yet another ethernet PHY LED control proposal"
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<vagrantc> wens: now i remember where i saw the dtb overlay support in debian: https://bugs.debian.org/884003
<vagrantc> it wasn't quite merged, and there was more work on the kernel side that needed doing
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<wens> vagrantc: this seems separate from the actual DTBs having the needed symbols for overlay support
<vagrantc> wens: having the symbols was referenced in there
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<wens> right, I also see the proposal of adding -@ to DTC_FLAGS
<wens> IMO adding -@ when CONFIG_OF_OVERLAY=y is not the right answer. you can use the DTBs with U-boot's overlay support and not enable overlay support in the kernel proper, which is probably how most people use it today
<vagrantc> if it should be enabled at run time in Debian's kernel packages, a bug/patch/merge request against the kernel packaging is probably the right place to start the conversation
<libv> gediz0x539: any info is good
<libv> better to have too much or superfluous info than no info
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<willmore> libv, I'm still offering you storage and BW if you ever want to backup the wiki offside.
<willmore> FYI
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<Thore-Krug> Hi
<Thore-Krug> So im want to create a Board based on the Allwinner V3s and im looking for a way to implement a FEL pin similar to the one used on the CHIP SBC
<Thore-Krug> The Documentation talks about " upgrade mode " and " BSP Pin " but there no such pin on the documentation mentioned ever again nor a Boot or u-boot pin
<Thore-Krug> is there even suc a thing as a FEL pin on the V3s present ?
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<libv> willmore: yeah, i know, i just don't know when/how to get to that
<libv> we still need https as well
<libv> and i need to ... and ... and ...
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<willmore> libv, tar? ssh? ;)
<willmore> Probably rsync would be more efficient.
<willmore> I understand the priorities. I just appreciate the value of the wiki and would hate for some hardware or hosting error to wipe the whole thing out.
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<montjoie> libv: willmore: does password are hashed in the DB ? A first step could be to generate a tar.gz availlable in a vhost restricted by IP/password
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<KotCzarny> or just make a torrent and seed it from russia
<KotCzarny> ;)
<bauen1> libv: you're hosting linux-sunxi.org (including dl.linux-sunxi.org) ?
<montjoie> KotCzarny: it is why I ask for password hashing, it "could" help sharing the DB.
<montjoie> or just do a accountless backup
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<KotCzarny> libv: why did you remove the forum.lemaker link? it opens just fine
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<willmore> montjoie, I'm not sure what the password DB has to do with backups.
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<hramrach> you might not want to backup that for security reasons
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