<n0carri3r> experimenting here with importing more milkdrop presets
<n0carri3r> it seems there's a limit to files in a folder, around 250
<n0carri3r> and i went back to the milkdrop archives, started with the older patches (around 2001-2002)
<n0carri3r> most of them work with no conversions, which is great :)
<n0carri3r> well, not *most*, but a lot of them!
<wpwrak> how good do they look on average ? about like the ones we have ?
<n0carri3r> hmm, most of them aren't so complex
<n0carri3r> but i am saving the good ones
<n0carri3r> and i've modified about 10-12 of ones that seem cool to make them work with the MM
<n0carri3r> by changing the ANG and RAND and other variables that dont exist
<wpwrak> btw, i particularly like the 8 bit starfield, because it occasionally changes style, "a matter of taste" because of its "living" appearance, and "forgotten moon" for the level of detail
<wpwrak> so what did you do with "ang" ? seems that it shouldn't be as easy as just using "rot"
<n0carri3r> yeah, i've been using rot
<n0carri3r> but some functions use rot and ang, so there some problems arise
<n0carri3r> they will still work, but not as intended by the author
<wpwrak> maybe some just need a number that changes from time to time ;-))
<n0carri3r> for rand (random), some lookup tables might be good in a future version
<wpwrak> how does rand work ? does it provide a new random number per use ? or per vertex, per frame, ... ?
<n0carri3r> its a per frame
<wpwrak> shouldn't be too hard to implement then. there are plenty of random number generator algorithms out there.
<n0carri3r> yep
<qi-bot> The Firmware build was successfull, see images here: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/build-milkymist/milkymist-firmware-10092011-0030/
<kristianpaul> hum, all data in milkymist conbus is fixed to be _always_ 32 bits?
<wpwrak> hates uncompensated thermocouples. around 20 C, you get very plausible-looking readings, but they're still all wrong.
<wpwrak> (with the instrument exposed to similar temperature variations as the probe)
<Fallenou> https://sharism.cc/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1 < hum I think this page could be misleading
<Fallenou> with the big "Sharism presents Milkymist"
<Fallenou> on a page which presents the NanoNote
<wpwrak> insteresting ... all the USB resets with the long link eventually degrade overall USB performance from high-speed to full-speed, slowing down NOR dumps over JTAG by a factor of something like 8.
<wpwrak> seems that the USB extender wasn't such a great idea :-(
<kristianpaul> jumm.. , so you even need to test for NOR with out the jtag board perhaps?
<kristianpaul> (i know is not related with your last post, just wondering :-))
<wpwrak> naw, i need the jtag board for it
<wpwrak> i guess i'll have to set up a PC in the test room and have only local USB connections from that PC. bridge the distance to my desktop with ethernet.
<wpwrak> plus, i need to find a better way to monitor temperature. "better" in the sense of "one that actually works"
<n0carri3r> hey, all
<sb0> hi
<mwalle> hi
<n0carri3r> hey
<n0carri3r> so i was looking at the flickernoise source, it seems there is a screen capture built in somewhere?
<n0carri3r> i was just quickly scanning last night, when looking for a complete list of variables (which i found)
<n0carri3r> can you capture only single frames? or videos?
<sb0> only single frames
<sb0> and it's a keyboard shortcut.. ctrl f2 or something
<sb0> creates .png files
<n0carri3r> cool
<sb0> when are your gigs?
<sb0> next weekend?
<n0carri3r> the next two weekends
<n0carri3r> also, someone told me you'd be able to answer some questions when you got back - you're the creator of the MM, right? :)
<sb0> I started this project
<n0carri3r> ahh, great!
<n0carri3r> really digging it so far, thanks
<mwalle> sb0: btw why a new nickname?
<wpwrak> sb0: heya ! how did the workshop go ? did people like your talk ?
<wpwrak> mwalle: maybe he got too many people asking him linux kernel questions ? :)
<kristianpaul> mwalle: so you mean newlibe can replace libc that is used in demo firmware?
<kristianpaul> you mentioned the other time baremetal apps for M1 wich is good, but you dint mention using wich lib :-)
<wolfspraul> wi 45
<kristianpaul> win*
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: i tough was its own kernel project :)
<wpwrak> i wonder if bare metal apps really matter all that much in the long run. it's usually something you do when a platform is young and feature-poor, but with time, these things tend to become more of burden than something useful
<kristianpaul> sure.. but look, i dont feel trusting rtems right now..
<wpwrak> ;-))
<kristianpaul> (feature-poor), can you be more specific about this?
<wpwrak> considering that FN+RTEMS = hang nowadays, perhaos that's a good assessment :) but i hope sb0 will fix this once the world tour is done
<kristianpaul> to put it this way, i still having problems even with prtiting signed numbers, or trying float operations..
<kristianpaul> yes, i do not knowthing in depth about C and all the libraries, compilation and etc..
<kristianpaul> s/knowthing/enought
<kristianpaul> but i feel better making my way way with simpler stuff first
<wpwrak> (feature-poor) well, while it's still very simple, doesn't have a lot of working drivers and protocols, etc. fwiw, i would consider M1 with RTEMS (when it works) to be already in a sufficiently mature state that you wouldn't be tempted to use standalone binaries anymore
<wpwrak> (of course, one reason against using RTEMS would be that you simply don't want to cover yet another platform. but then, standalone is also yet another platform, although one you control entirely)
<kristianpaul> ok, well i want linux with mmap, i miss my coreutils :-)
<wpwrak> *grin*
<wpwrak> yes, the right combination of time and skills still needs to meet with M1 ...
<kristianpaul> even now for me no matter ethernet driver, i just realize how blind i was with a serial port front of me could be lot usefull plus your neocon logging feature
<kristianpaul> but i tried linux, i had to deal with the special formating of the uSD card, then was a waste of time because dint worked for me, so i decide move to tftp boot
<kristianpaul> it worked, but i was wellcome by a unfriendly busybox
<kristianpaul> yes, i can read the topic JFDI ""
<kristianpaul> but i dont move as fast as sb0 !!, sure i'm not the best focued man
<kristianpaul> _but_ i really care to make this GPS thing to work, no matter how but in M1
<kristianpaul> well.. i drop rtems chaos moved to baremetal.. but hited M1 libc :-)
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: not fast but you sure have persistence for ten ;-)
<kristianpaul> :)