23:50 <gnutun> re: paypal, i called regarding my payment from a few months ago, and paypal said there is a reserve that they can't do anything about from my end, and suggested that the recipient get in contact with pp to resolve the issue (which i reassured pp you are already doing)

23:51 <gnutun> i asked that they note in the neo900 account that i as a purchaser was happy to waive any right to a chargeback in case the money is released

23:52 <gnutun> and i also asked whether, if the release becomes impossible, i can ask for a "refund" (in order to send the money another way) with no charge to the recipient, and they seemed to think yes (as opposed to a cc chargeback, in which neo900 would be penalized)

23:52 <DocScrutinizer05> great! many thanks! could you provide your payment date and transaction number or email addr, in /query

23:54 <DocScrutinizer05> please don't post your email and transaction code in here

23:54 <DocScrutinizer05> date isn't critical :-)

23:55 <gnutun> sent (i think)

23:56 <gnutun> so if you don't get any traction with pp on your end in the next few weeks, it sounds like it would not cost you anything if you and i both agreed to a "refund" through pp (not a dispute)

23:56 <gnutun> and then i can do a wire or something instead

23:59 <DocScrutinizer05> ok, your payment been relatively recently, and it's actually marked as "checking..."