04:23 <isd> Lyre Calliope: I haven't heard that one before. I'm using a terminal based mail client, so obviously not seeing it myself. Open an issue if you can't find one.

15:19 <kentonv> CaptainCalliope: When you right-click on the link to copy it, make sure to choose "copy link address" rather than just "copy"

15:19 <kentonv> CaptainCalliope, also, in Chrome (and maybe other browsers?), if you press ctrl+shift+v to paste, it pastes text only without formatting

15:20 <kentonv> that said, we could probably fix this with some DOM adjustments

15:27 <abliss> kentonv if the doc deploy action is live and hasn't shown any problems, shall I go ahead and send a PR for a similar autodeploy action on sandstorm-website?

15:30 <kentonv> abliss, hmm, one problem is there are a lot of untracked files. We'll have to figure out how we want to deal with those.

15:32 <abliss> like what, images? are they versioned somewhere else?

15:32 <kentonv> I'm looking at the list. I think a lot of it is obsolete, and then there's a few images.

15:33 <kentonv> I'll need to sort through it. My guess is we'll be able to commit the things that are actually needed.

15:33 <kentonv> there are things like spks under /apps -- the old app list, from before we had the app market

15:33 <kentonv> I think no one depends on those anymore?

15:34 <abliss> does the current server have access logs we can check?

15:34 <kentonv> ugh it looks like our test suite downloads some apps from there

15:36 <kentonv> I guess I could configure nginx such that it still serves /apps but forwards everything else to alpha

15:37 <abliss> that sounds good. LMK if I can help with anything.

15:38 <kentonv> disappointing that nginx is still needed... maybe I can replace it with CF workers at some point

15:55 <abliss> i mean... theoretically you could probably check them into gitweb?

15:56 <kentonv> spks are huge

15:56 <abliss> we wouldn't have to bog down the main sandstorm-pages repo; we coul have the deploy script merge in the new changes before pushing. and maybe with git's new partial-clone support we could avoid ever fetching them

15:57 <abliss> i don't think git has any theoretical limit on filesize, and they'd only have to ever traverse the network once. in practice it might not work but i don't know any theoretical reas on it can't.

15:59 <abliss> i guess i can try it out; can you send me an `ls -laR` of the current server so I can rig up a simulation with equal sizes?

16:23 <kentonv> eh I'd really rather have the gw-pages repo be an exact clone of the sandstorm-website repo, and I don't think uploading the spks to the github repo would be a good idea. It's OK, I can rig something with Cloudflare Workers to redirect the /apps subdirectory.

16:33 <kentonv> abliss, here's the list of untracked files. https://kenton.sandcats.io/shared/LAJ-QkjHMxQwdHpMAnYW2Of_-fmbwyBoqCqbPTpVUTN

16:34 <kentonv> I think it's safe to delete redesign/* -- presumably that was when we were testing a redesign of the site which later was published live

16:34 <kentonv> apps/* I'll host in a Davros grain and use CF workers to redirect to it.

16:36 <kentonv> sandstorm-bundle-0.1-rc{1,2}.tar.xz are the first two bundled releases of Sandstorm, before it had auto-update. I should archive them somewhere but they don't need to be served from their current location anymore.

16:36 <kentonv> (all other sandstorm bundles are served from dl.sandstorm.io)

17:06 <ocdtr_web> Cloning /sandstorm on public Wi-Fi takes just shy of forever, FYI.

17:23 <ocdtr_web> Hey kentonv, I remember you having to figure out *which* github-release app was required to publish vagrant-spk releases. Do you have that information anywhere?

17:27 <kentonv> well... I have the binary but it doesn't tell me who made it...

17:27 <kentonv> it says its version is v0.7.2

17:28 <ocdtr_web> As a side note on this, with Actions being free for public repositories, does it make sense to build Actions for less frequent tasks like vagrant-spk releases?

17:29 <kentonv> yes

17:29 <ocdtr_web> It would seem like the process of releasing vagrant-spk is already pretty much fully scripted, so I imagine the work to do so isn't far off. Mostly we need to add getting the right github-release tool. :P

17:29 <kentonv> also nice because I apparently went out of my way to sandbox that binary when I ran it locally... in an action it's already sandboxed

17:30 <ocdtr_web> https://github.com/aktau/github-release/releases/tag/v0.7.2 ?

17:30 <kentonv> that looks very plausible

17:31 <kentonv> I have a record of downloading aktau/github-release but I can't remember if that was the only one I tried

17:31 <kentonv> but given it also has that version from around the right timeframe, it's probably the one

17:36 <ocdtr_web> vagrant-spk specifically cites using a GITHUB_TOKEN environment variable, which is required for this script. And the syntax looks about right as well.

17:59 <ocdtr_web> kentonv: How do you feel about https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/pull/3162 ? Not out of any particular need, it just seems like it should be easy to take off the PR list.

18:04 <kentonv> done

18:06 <ocdtr_web> \o/

18:22 <isd> kentonv: in case you didn't see it, the blog post is ready to go.

18:29 <ocdtr_web> I would also really appreciate some of the five following PRs on sandstorm-website before anyone who visits us asks about the broken links. (Insert joke about the trauma of being reminded of my old social networking home.)

18:31 <isd> That's probably a good idea

18:33 <ocdtr_web> My PR #302 is inadequate though. It was just to remove mention of the free plan.

18:39 <ocdtr_web> I think we should redirect sandstorm.io/get to sandstorm.io/install

18:40 <ocdtr_web> The get page has no inherent value post-December 31st.

18:41 <isd> +1

19:10 <isd> ocdtr_web: preparing a pr for that now.

19:27 <isd> ocdtr_web: pr is up

19:27 <ocdtr_web> See that. Awesome.

19:35 <isd> On the website repo, probably #281 should be closed, and all the other prs should be merged; don't think there's any work needed on any of them.

19:41 <ocdtr_web> Closed 281.

19:55 <ocdtr_web> So, interesting thing. curbengh, who opened up some PRs like updating Node stacks on vagrant-spk and the updated SSL configs for Docs... had specified he wanted to try to package Hexo for Sandstorm.

19:56 <ocdtr_web> Turns out, I think we effectively just did. Because Hexo itself is a CLI app, and may not be super suitable to put on Sandstorm, but a big selling point is it generates static web content and deploys with a single command to GitHub Pages and similar.

19:57 <ocdtr_web> https://hexo.io/docs/one-command-deployment provides all the information you'd need to start deploying Hexo via GitWeb (Pages) on Sandstorm.

20:37 <isd> kentonv: hm, demo.sandstorm.io was working last night after you pushed, but now it's re-directing to oasis again.

20:38 <ocdtr_web> demo.sandstorm.io redirects to alpha.sandstorm.io/demo for me.

20:38 <ocdtr_web> I think I tried it a few hours ago, and it still is for me now. (Though I didn't explicitly just flush any DNS caches along the way.)

20:39 <kentonv> oh it looks like demo.sandstorm.io redirects to oasis.sandstorm.io/demo which *then* redirects to alpha.sandstorm.io/demo

20:39 <kentonv> but demo.sandstorm.io/anything redirects to oasis.sandstorm.io/anything...

20:39 <kentonv> I should fix that

20:41 <isd> I'm in the midst of grepping the website repo for 'oasis' and fixing everything. There were some demo links that were broken even when I changed oasis to demo.

20:42 <kentonv> yeah lemme fix the redirect so that we can use "demo" instead of saying specifically "alpha"

20:42 <ocdtr_web> I assume we should retain the Oasis sign in link somewhere until data download is purged.

20:43 <ocdtr_web> Unless we assume anyone with data on Oasis knows how to find Oasis.

20:44 <kentonv> redirect has been updated

20:49 <kentonv> isd, your blog post is up

20:51 <isd> Cool.

20:51 <isd> ocdtr_web: ok, I'll leave the sign-in buttons for now.

21:04 <TimMc> .

21:04 <TimMc> sorry, wrong window

21:06 <TimMc> (Also, hi! I haven't caught up with the mailing list in weeks, but I'm gratified to see so much activity.)

21:09 <ocdtr_web> Hi :)

21:09 <ocdtr_web> The short version can now be found on sandstorm.io/news TimMc

21:15 <TimMc> Neat!