07:09 <stellar-slack> <akulm> 1) the client contracts/sensitive meta should be private. im still looking at implementations. not yet concrete

07:14 <stellar-slack> <dzham> @akulm: perfectly doable

11:11 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> akulm I'm not sure this is a good idea but maybe the meta data that I assume might be something like KYC info of like SS# and real name and picture of a government issued ID. In this case any digital package of sensitive meta data could be hashed signed by the stellar seed and then the digital signature sent in the memo field of a transaction to prove the identity of the meta package received is from that

11:11 <stellar-slack> be sent by secure email or any other method like an https secured websocket method or other. Maybe We should make a simple infrastructure or instructions on how to do something like that?

12:22 <stellar-slack> <akulm> we use a compounded salting mechanism and encrypt using this salt to generate a garbage hash. it can only be decrypted by the user.

12:23 <stellar-slack> <akulm> @sacarlson: you are right on the type of data. whatever sensitive data comes in smartcontract for a particular application along with public meta info for eg trade X with Y. that is where im looking to utilize stellar exchange

12:24 <stellar-slack> <akulm> the contract can be easily transferred without the facilitator(server in our cases) knowing the details.

12:26 <stellar-slack> <akulm> im working on a blockchain powered framework using couple of available libraries. i looked at stellar and their approach is intriguing, it would esp be useful while a Multi party wants to send/receive a contract from a Peer. Consensus can be utilized for Trust and Verification. The other use case is simply their exchange.

12:28 <stellar-slack> <akulm> the multi-signature signing option is a crypto currency operation, where the sender/receiver retrieve the encrypted data. I 'll be looking at the doc to understand how *Before this sending* consensus can be utilized.

12:29 <stellar-slack> <akulm> As a rule, - All Transactions are Consensus based. - All Decentralized Ledger Clearing is followed by Consensus based trading.

12:31 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I guess what I would need is the chained asset you hope to include. As I understand stellar multi-sign transactions, I'm guessing you want to connect a contract from another chain?

12:38 <stellar-slack> <akulm> i am not sure what you mean by asset chains?

12:40 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> asset chains would be for example Bitcoin as you spoke of a blockchain powered framwork so I had to assume.

12:44 <stellar-slack> <akulm> ok. these are colored coin tokens that issuers/users can trade. anything that can defined as a transaction. It already has a multi-sig option. these are low level operations and I ll take sometime to figure out how to include stellar components as part of this.

12:45 <stellar-slack> <akulm> sure. if we could allow trading with other Altcoins, that would be awesome. the trade exchange i've in mind is altcoin agnostic. trading is as per price listing

12:50 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> so for now you just want to learn about the built in stellar trading system maybe? with it you need to trust the issuer holder of the asset will deliver on call. if your working in digital chain assets like bitcoin and other we can devise a method that no middle man holder need be involved with connected contracts between them as I know bitcoin has muli-sign also.

12:54 <stellar-slack> <akulm> yes i ll play around with it. the users of the application will exchanging. we'll be devising a trust mechanism in the app. there is, apparently, no middle man, just an order-matching service matching anonymous bid/sell requests. a hybrid model. you mean crypto keys across netwrks.

12:54 <stellar-slack> <akulm> is this a demo? http://sacarlson.github.io/stellar_min_client.html

12:56 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> that is a demo of just doing payment transactions. I have a demo that does offer orders for exchange here: http://sacarlson.github.io/order_tools.html

12:57 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> and yes they are both demo prototype

12:58 <stellar-slack> <akulm> awesome.

13:01 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> it's very primitive not user friendly stuf. the link list of all my web stuff is now seen here: http://sacarlson.github.io|sacarlson.github.io

13:02 <stellar-slack> <akulm> but the codebase would be good for understanding how things work here

13:03 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> you want a link to the code? https://github.com/sacarlson/sacarlson.github.io

13:04 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I'm new to javascript so you might note that. but at least they are working examples to work from

13:05 <stellar-slack> <akulm> no issues. my framework is pure js btw

13:06 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I more like ruby and just made the js scripts to demo some of the multi-sign-server features but I'm also learning the functions from the horizon point

13:07 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> I think you can do it all in js and horizon

13:08 <stellar-slack> <akulm> yup they've a js sdk there. will throw some questions when ill look at ur codebase.. ill dm u d link to d framework later.

13:09 <stellar-slack> <sacarlson> cool have fun

13:22 <stellar-slack1> <dzham> sounds like a cool project.

13:22 <stellar-slack1> <dzham> @sacarlson: I think you’re complicating things :)

13:25 <stellar-slack1> <dzham> Just got back from Star Wars VII, BTW. Damn. Wish JJ Abrams would’ve done 1-3 too

13:25 <stellar-slack1> <dzham> @eva: speaking of sequels, when do we get to see what happened to Stroopy and friends?

15:25 <stellar-slack1> <jed> akulm: I think you could just use stellar as is for what you are trying to do. Everything that you want to keep private can be kept that way.

16:34 <stellar-slack1> <sacarlson> dzham: yes I agree I read too much into things or I use too much of my imagination :)

18:12 <stellar-slack1> <eva> @dzham: haha, I’m actually not sure - right now we’re more focused on improving developer documentation, so Stroopy & friends may have to wait. That said… I would love to see some Stroopy fanfic from the community :)