<nebkat>
var strings = "Enlarge,Uncountableset,GeorgCantor,Mathematicalproof,Infiniteset,Bijection,Naturalnumber,Uncountableset,Cardinalnumber,Cantor'sfirstuncountabilityproof,Realnumber,Russell'sparadox,Gödel'sincompletenesstheorems,Entscheidungsproblem,Editsection:Anuncountableset,Sequence,Countable,Editsection:Interpretation,Constructivism(mathematics),Bijection,Subcountable,Classicalmathematics,Editsection:Realnumbers"
<nebkat>
!js for (var s in strings.split(",")) {bot.getIrc().message(bot.getSession(), "ChanServ", "info ##" + s);}
<nebkat>
!js for (var s in strings.split(",")) {bot.getIrc().message(bot.getSession(), "ChanServ", "info " + s);}
<nebkat>
buy smartstay ex and i'll send you a cookie? ktnx
<nebkat>
and my connection is 100mb/s, even to germany :)
<nebkat>
in other news, my wifi is fixed
<nebkat>
even though I only got $35 that day :(
<nebkat>
huge boost
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: smartstay ex on gizmodo :)
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: hello
2013-03-08
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: ask me tomorrow
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: yar?
<nebkat>
mquinteiro: wat
2013-03-07
<nebkat>
DuperMan: hello
<nebkat>
brunch + eat
<nebkat>
or time brunch i9300
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: go do a "repo sync && . build/envsetup.sh && time omnom i9300"
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: deal with this for me and i'll be nice to you ktnx ;)
<nebkat>
brb lunch
<nebkat>
we havent even released it?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: and I dont see how that could possible offend us - we never said bbqd would be used by millions - ofc nightlies are available
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: no they dont
<nebkat>
etc
<nebkat>
nightlies dont include gapps
<nebkat>
not all devices have nightlies
<nebkat>
nightlies dont contain WIP features
<nebkat>
it doesnt matter
<nebkat>
wish you the best of luck
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: enjoy making a copy of bbqd
<nebkat>
and one user on ssh is a bigger loss than we could ever profit from your rom
<nebkat>
im sorry but in this situation we should not be the ones at a loss
<nebkat>
other than that no
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: thats a service we will have
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: we can offer you automatic nightlies
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: dont you realise? 1 user on ssh building slows the build down at least 50%
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: we'd rather not have your rom than offer you ssh
<nebkat>
on our service that needs builds flying out the oven #fastasfuck?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: are you basically suggesting we give you ssh access for free?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: nope
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: pongg
<nebkat>
sihdfmqdjkf: fixit
2013-03-06
<nebkat>
!supported samsung
<nebkat>
wat?
<nebkat>
vip prority is 25c
<nebkat>
gerrit patches are free
<nebkat>
replace a weekly coffee with weekly builds for your device
<nebkat>
we need it so that there is no second thought about paying
<nebkat>
the idea with 25c is that its just dirt cheap
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: we should totally make builds be 50c :P
<nebkat>
or that the cost will be exactly 0.04?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: is that assuming you can definitely get builds in 7 min?
<nebkat>
!math (2790-400)/400
<nebkat>
!math!math (2790-400)/400
<nebkat>
its (sell price - cost price) / cost price
<nebkat>
we must be calculating wrong?
<nebkat>
because builds wont always be 25c
<nebkat>
400% margin at max build prioce
<nebkat>
that is 400% margin, and still impossible
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: is this cost to produce a build?
<nebkat>
Kihokki: true
<nebkat>
I suppose that would mean low usage, but as long as there is a good margin it can still be run
<nebkat>
even "just" 100% profit margin is huge
<nebkat>
if any profit the profit margin is tiny
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: with your system there is barely a profit
<nebkat>
half*
<nebkat>
697.5% profit margin at hafl capacity
<nebkat>
!math 2790/400
<nebkat>
!math 60*24*31/8/2
<nebkat>
what is too little?
<nebkat>
5,580 theoretical builds per month per server
<nebkat>
!math 60*24*31/8
<nebkat>
all we need is 400 builds per server and we have paid off
<nebkat>
and expense is not relative to profit
<nebkat>
there are much less risk involved
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: dedicated is still better
<nebkat>
Pricing is per instance-hour consumed for each instance, from the time an instance is launched until it is terminated. Each partial instance-hour consumed will be billed as a full hour.
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: but but
<nebkat>
it just cant work that way
<nebkat>
otherwise it is not profitable
<nebkat>
so it needs to cost much less than that
<nebkat>
assuming a build can cost as little as 0.13c
<nebkat>
how much does it cost for one build
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: the real question is
<nebkat>
I must admit
<nebkat>
it does sound nice
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: anyway we'll consider it
<nebkat>
$out on ramdisk!!!
<nebkat>
we need 64gb ram
<nebkat>
thats not good enough
<nebkat>
are the servers fast enough for 7 min builds
<nebkat>
how much would it cost to do 5000 builds each 7min long?
<nebkat>
but
<nebkat>
amazon aint bad
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: you make a fair point
<nebkat>
im busy
<nebkat>
I hate the way new Superuser is implemented in settings
<nebkat>
anything UI wise?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: how far along are you with development
<nebkat>
I dont compile this shit
<nebkat>
a3Dman: nightly, idk
<nebkat>
but make sure you upgrade to latest version
<nebkat>
if its showing then there is something wrong
<nebkat>
a3Dman: its for when you are a) not on cm and b) not default launcher
<nebkat>
a3Dman: wat button?
<nebkat>
we are open to that
<nebkat>
then ofc
<nebkat>
if you are trying to make a deal here
<nebkat>
if you dont want to
<nebkat>
you dont have to
<nebkat>
either you make some form of deal with us, or you accept our offer
<nebkat>
to recap
<nebkat>
but if you are a third-party we cant just be giving you an amount because you think its fair
<nebkat>
maybe we can make a deal
<nebkat>
nightlies through this
<nebkat>
or only weekly builds
<nebkat>
e.g. no free builds for users, must go through this
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: if you want to make a deal
<nebkat>
and there is no argument
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: if your code is closed that is your choice
<nebkat>
your choice
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: if you keep your software closed then there is no issue
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: the thing is we dont need your permission
<nebkat>
we are saying "this is w00tc0d3's rom, we are offering you the service to compile it on our servers"
<nebkat>
but we are not stealing the work
<nebkat>
that is true
<nebkat>
so we are offering users a service to compile someone elses rom
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: yeah?
<nebkat>
take code, say its yours and request money
<nebkat>
kanging is just shameful
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: its different when you kang and sell with credit
<nebkat>
offer you goods and take a profit
<nebkat>
we are like a shop
<nebkat>
if you do release your code there is nothing you can do to stop us
<nebkat>
if you dont want to release your code obviously we cant use it
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: that is your choice
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: 20% is quite a lot
<nebkat>
I just dont get the logic with saying our service is bad then
<nebkat>
so you want to make a "better" version of the service?
<nebkat>
you are here getting pissed because a service isnt giving you what you want?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: try look at it from a different perspective
<nebkat>
where it is now
<nebkat>
there is a reason it has taken us almost a year to get this
<nebkat>
go make the interface
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: are you saying you want to have a web interface, like bbq, and power of an AWS every time someone requests a build?
<nebkat>
we are here to make builds for users who want customized roms
<nebkat>
we arent here to make builds for you
<nebkat>
that is one build
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: dont you realise?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: why you say so?
<nebkat>
anyone could
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: of course you could
<nebkat>
but you dont keep it closed always
<nebkat>
you keep it closed until release so that they cant release before you release
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: thats not how you do it
<nebkat>
lol
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: I suppose the deal could be changed if you forced users to use bbqd
<nebkat>
closed source is useless unless you are trying to make some kind of profit
<nebkat>
good luck with that
<nebkat>
legally we dont have to ask you about using your rom
<nebkat>
yeah
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: legally you are entitled 0
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: yeh chad is n00b lol
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: you realise 10% is a donation, not a payment
<nebkat>
ofc
<nebkat>
nightlies exist
<nebkat>
its about the feeling of making your _own_ build
<nebkat>
"they'll think its awesome and you can buy another yacht"
<nebkat>
"50c per build"
<nebkat>
"make realtime builds to users possible"
<nebkat>
somebody says to koush (iirc)
<nebkat>
in cm priv channel
<nebkat>
you know how we got this idea?
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: the idea is to let USERS build
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: where will you get the capital?
<nebkat>
a3Dman: changed recently, patch is up on gerrit
<nebkat>
10%
<nebkat>
w00tc0d3: 0.025
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: wanna help with devices? :P
<nebkat>
looks unchecked but might work
<nebkat>
try it
<nebkat>
might still work thoigh
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: i'll fix tomorrow
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: added
<nebkat>
sorry wifi derped
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: "KANADA"
<nebkat>
fuuuuuuuuuuu
<nebkat>
n00b
<nebkat>
https
2013-03-05
<nebkat>
dev.bbqdroid.org
<nebkat>
you arent in db for some reason
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: register with invite code FUKU
<nebkat>
Jiangyi: you have an account already dont you?