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<pepijndevos> daveshah, as I understand it, this example only adds timing for LUTs, can the same mechanism be used for routing delay? https://github.com/YosysHQ/nextpnr/blob/master/generic/examples/simple_timing.py
<daveshah> pepijndevos: I think pip delays are already set in the other file
<pepijndevos> you are right... missed that
<pepijndevos> daveshah, I'll be trying to add correct numbers for that in my next Apicula live stream. Last two streams I had ZirconiumX as a guest, but if you enjoy that kind of thing...
<OmniMancer1> Oooh
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<azonenberg> daveshah et al: is anybody here familiar with the fine points of the vivado DCP file format?
<azonenberg> i know it's a zip containing an xml manifest, an edif, and a bunch of other stuff
<daveshah> Not really the fine points, but I've accessed it through the RapidWright blob a bit
<daveshah> All the magic is in the proprietary xdef file
<azonenberg> i'm wondering more about the multiple constraint files
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<daveshah> Oh, I haven't looked at that side at all
<azonenberg> whats the difference between them and when do they get parsed?
<azonenberg> and given a DCP how can i load it and do stuff to it without having a full vivado project?
<azonenberg> or do i have to make a project and import the dcp as a source file?
<daveshah> read_checkpoint tcl
<daveshah> iirc
<azonenberg> yeah i ran read_checkpoint on it and i got stuff
<azonenberg> but it wasnt acting like a full design would
<azonenberg> i feel like there's some other state i need
<daveshah> No idea
<daveshah> Pretty much all the DCPs I've used are of RapidWright origin and have no constraints, so I apply any timing constraints in tcl after loading
<azonenberg> Yeah i'm trying to understand the details of constraint serialization for... reasons...
<azonenberg> and things like precedence of DCP constraints relative to the project file
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