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<AdrianG> why are ring-signature schemes with random oracles not secure in practise ?
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<MRL-Relay> [shen] AdrianG, it's not that they are "not secure in practice" it would be more correct to say that people don't necessarily trust the random oracle model - the reason is it approximates hash functions by a "truly random" function, which is obviously not true
<MRL-Relay> [shen] Usually the security in ring signature applciation is somehow related to the assumption that it is improbable to find the discrete log of something like hash_to_scalar(P)*G
<MRL-Relay> [shen] (and variations of that assumption)
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<stevenroose_> Is it possible to create a safe recurring payments scheme using locktime and/or relative locktime?
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<stevenroose_> You could pay several months upfront using locktime and already hand the transactions to the recipient, but then they there is no real difference between prepaid and a subscription
<stevenroose_> Except that you can quit between two payments
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<CiPi2> jcorgan, i will fuck your days.
<CiPi2> :)
<CiPi2> beleave me.
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<region33> jcorgan; You`re too old for this shit. :). I don`t understand why and old man like you looses his time in this way. You don`t have much time to live and you already lost the bitcoin train. Even if you ban me again. I can get in, time and time again, and speak whatever i want, where i want. You`re helpless and is nothing you can do about it. :)
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<coinoperated> .title
<yoleaux> The peloton superorganism and protocooperative behavior
<coinoperated> also, selfish drafting attacks
<bsm117532> That looks like an exercise in using as many made-up words as possible.
<coinoperated> plot twist: all words are made up
<kanzure> but some have consensus
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<coinoperated> proof of homework
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