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<SchrodingersScat>
whyrusleeping: sometimes my ipfs daemon ends with the error 'Killed' but I didn't kill it. Is this my vps provider doing fishy things? Or do I blame ipfs?
<SchrodingersScat>
solution in bash: until ipfs daemon --enable-gc ; do sleep 1 ; done
<deltab>
SchrodingersScat: that's likely the OOM killer: the system ran out of memory and killed a process to recover
<SchrodingersScat>
deltab: makes perfect sense, the provider is terrible, over provisioned, thanks!
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<homer6>
hello, interwebs
<homer6>
does anyone know if there are plans for ipfs to have a replication factor?
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<jcgruenhage>
What do you mean exactly?
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<homer6>
say if I wanted to build a file storage cluster
<homer6>
and I wanted 3 copies of each file
<homer6>
at all times
<homer6>
so I guess it's two questions: one for consistency and one for establishing a replication factor
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<homelessrobot[m]>
i wonder if there is some possibility of integration with https://keybase.io. storing/signing ip(f/n)s hashes in relation a memorable names. its very DAGy and even has its own kbfs that is currently centralized and poorly documented
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<homelessrobot[m]>
its seems like KBFS should just be ip(f/n)s
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<jcgruenhage>
It would be perfectly possible to reimplement the whole keybase thing on ip{f/n}s. Who'd like to discuss the details of that somewhere?
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<homelessrobot[m]>
but supposing you do, and they want to stick with their centralized storage, what happens? Fork their key storage system? Just overlay some kind of glue to use both?
<homelessrobot[m]>
(or someone does)
<homelessrobot[m]>
i think there might be somekind of monetization strategy burried in their storage stuff
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<jcgruenhage>
Yep, surely it is.
<jcgruenhage>
btw, I didn't mean kbfs above, I meant keybase in general.
<homelessrobot[m]>
yeah, that was my initial thinking too. the whole thing seems very ipfs encodable
<homelessrobot[m]>
except of course for the 'last mile'. The usable webUI and memorable names.
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<jcgruenhage>
you'd loose the nice user names, but the mapping from external users is the more important part anyway
<homelessrobot[m]>
thats true
<homelessrobot[m]>
twitter handles & github and stuff
<jcgruenhage>
exactly. And if there is some ipns hash over there, people can still easily find that.
<homelessrobot[m]>
yeah. just an external acct -> It would be interesting if you could encode the proof in a way that is compatible with existing keyservers
<homelessrobot[m]>
external acct -> ipns
<jcgruenhage>
I'm not sure how "on topic" that is here, we might want to create a channel for that, if you're interested in discussing this further
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<victorbjelkholm>
jcgruenhage: I think a thread on discuss.ipfs.io would be wonderful, I'm certain more folks are interested in that
<jcgruenhage>
We currently have a chat on matrix about that stuff, if something productive comes out of it, we'll post it there ^^
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<Nox[Matrix]>
jcgruenhage: is there another room?
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<Nox[Matrix]>
jcgruenhage: or where is the discussion
<jcgruenhage>
In case any irc users wanna join in on the discussion, it's also at #ipids
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<tomatopeel>
crankylinuxuser: you mentioned about GUN the other day, do you have experience with graph db stuff?
<tomatopeel>
I may have a need to get my shit together with this stuff, was wondering about your experience if any and if you had some suggestions on good places to start or examples of use in open source projects or something
<crankylinuxuser>
Ive a bit of experience, yep. I come from traditional relational DB's but graph to me makes more sense..
<tomatopeel>
crankylinuxuser: can you share any use cases where you've used it?
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<crankylinuxuser>
i only found out about it a week or so. I'm currently posting messages into it from my IoT platform so far.
<crankylinuxuser>
Nothing fancy, but it is a mixture of relational and timeseries data.
<tomatopeel>
yeah I guess I should just start posting some stuff to one myself
<tomatopeel>
going to try neo4j and GUN I guess
<crankylinuxuser>
I shied away from neo4j primarily that it's severely feature-limited due to profiteering reasons.
<Nox[Matrix]>
Is ipfs sill considered as alpha? It replaced BitTorrent for me without any issues
<Nox[Matrix]>
Torrent is trash against ipfs
<Nox[Matrix]>
It's not working for me
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<crankylinuxuser>
ive been playing with IPFS since the 0.3 . Even then it was amazingly easy, fast, and simple to show new users.
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<crankylinuxuser>
I even did some client-work with prepping a special VM install with OpenCV, ROS, and LSDslam. I was paid to make it for a new drone company for dynamic mapping. I was able to set up 2 VPS'es that hosted the image and sent him the IPFS link. 3 hours later (crappy internet for him) and it was done
<crankylinuxuser>
I also have changed links to IPFS when it makes sense. If you look up 3d printer Kossel and go to the reprap wiki, I have an IPFS link for a PDF build-book in there.
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<tomatopeel>
nice
<tomatopeel>
I was turned off of neo4j for the same reasons also, however I was approached by somebody about their startup, and they've been looking at using neo4j already, so I figure I better at least look at it in some kind of detail
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<lemmi>
ChrisMatthieu: "ipfs resolve -r /ipns/philes.co/" -> "Error: Could not resolve name." - I tried to open the editor through ipns to allow access to the local daemon
<m0ns00n_intra>
SchrodingersScat: It's a cloud operating system.
<m0ns00n_intra>
SchrodingersScat: Next phase is to use IPFS for our software repository files and for file storage.
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<crankylinuxuser>
Now, is that CloudOS similar to Apache Mesos? I'm not familiar with your project.
<crankylinuxuser>
Do I run and maintain my edges of the cloud, and connect to other clouds, or do I rely on some centralized location?
<m0ns00n>
No it is decentralized.
<m0ns00n>
But not 100%
<m0ns00n>
Meaning, we are now working on making everything on the cloud server optional.
<m0ns00n>
So you only log in there, but get the whole OS, disks, apps and other resources from wherever you want.
<m0ns00n>
At the moment, where you have your server, you also can store files, you have your user account etc.
<m0ns00n>
But you can connect your server to others, and you can connect network disks from elsewhere. Even run apps from remote servers. So it's decentralized - but we'
<m0ns00n>
we're not done yet.
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<m0ns00n>
Like I said before, now comes IPFS support, and much more.
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<crankylinuxuser>
Interesting. Of course, I completely get it's a work-in-progress, with significant amount done already. I'm cool with that.
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<m0ns00n>
crankylinuxuser: The most important part of this milestone is that people see that the project now is becoming reality. It's not just a pipe dream anymore - but we have a real thing working. And it's just getting started. We hired three new people in the last few weeks. Our in-house dev-team is now eight people on a full time basis. And then we are consulting with some developers on an hourly basis. And we have two communications staff. And this is just the pe
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<m0ns00n>
Once the OSS developers start joining, they will see that they have the support of full time developers who go and fix the boring bugs :) And who can bring in cash for bounties. And who can find great partners :) And that's what you need to get an open source project some momentum I think. Other than it just being great! :)
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<r0kk3rz>
m0ns00n: its a good idea, but your interaction design seems to be stuck in 1995
<m0ns00n>
r0kk3rz: Yes the design may not be Windows 10 :)
<m0ns00n>
r0kk3rz: But I think there may be many interfaces as time goes. The whole point of Friend is that it can look like whatever you want.
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<crest_>
Nox[Matrix]: fablab-bremen.org
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<crankylinuxuser>
Ok.. I'm not seeing what FriendUP is actually for. I also see that it's "backend-less" but the install script wants to load a DB in mysql. Not understanding it, honestly.
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<kythyria[m]>
My first impression was "web-based desktop"
<kythyria[m]>
They used to be popular at one time
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<xelra>
The idea is nice, but it's a terrible name. Sounds like some third rate social network or flirting app.
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<m0ns00n>
Backendless means that you don't need to write a back-end.
<m0ns00n>
Names are difficult. You always miss the target (usually). But as people connect to the platform, usually this problem goes away.
<M-hash>
Or it means your back is endless XD
<m0ns00n>
If that's the case, you're a very long serpent :)
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<homelessrobot[m]>
i don't think this really addresses the specific issue of 'why isn't kbfs just ipfs'
<homelessrobot[m]>
though
<homelessrobot[m]>
it is a nice consolation prize either way
<M-hash>
> When Keybase needs your attention, her hair will shine like a thousand suns:
<M-hash>
those are... interesting docs
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<cranky_home>
rats, m0ns00n went to sleep. I am interested in what's done here... But I dont grok it. If I, someone who screws around with the edge of tech regularly doesnt get it, I'd imagine that most wouldn't..
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