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<stavros> i just finished that, where do you guys run your daemons usually?
<Magik6k> stavros, the deamon is usually at :5001 of whatever the origin domain is
<stavros> Magik6k, ah okay, great, that's the assumption i made too
<stavros> Magik6k, is it working for you?
<stavros> the output file is a bit ugly still, i'm afraid
<Magik6k> Oh, and it won't work as the :5001 api works only for whitelisted hashes and non-browser requests
<stavros> what do you mean?
<stavros> you need to add the CORS headers, if that's what you mean
<stavros> which is a really really big usability nightmare
<Magik6k> :5001 port api can only be used by webui and apps
<Magik6k> It's not only CORS
<stavros> what else is it?
<stavros> oh sorry
<Magik6k> [searching]
<stavros> yeah i don't mean go to ipfs.io
<stavros> i mean just use your local daemon to get that ID
<Kubuxu> stavros: you can request any hash locally from :8080 (gateway port)
<stavros> yeah
<stavros> that's how this is meant to be used
<Kubuxu> and only very limited subset from :5001 as any page from it has full access to your API
<Kubuxu> which means any page that would be loaded from it could do anything with your daemon
<stavros> ah, what could you load from 5001?
<Kubuxu> mostly webui
<Kubuxu> :5001/webui
<Kubuxu> will redirect you there
<stavros> ah, i didn't know that, thanks
<Kubuxu> there are plans from publishing verified dapps latter there but nothing concrete yet
<stavros> so what's the best way to get people to use my app?
<stavros> tell them to add CORS?
<Kubuxu> currently unfortunately yes
<Kubuxu> there are also plans for API tokens
<Kubuxu> something like capability system for the API
<stavros> ah
<stavros> anything's better than having to add CORS, i guess
<stavros> right
<stavros> hmm, why does the webui say i am connected to 0 peers?
<Magik6k> stavros, I have CORS disabled and it still won't work
<stavros> Magik6k, it's working fine for me
<stavros> what does it tell you?
<Magik6k> ohwait
<Magik6k> I have gateway at 172.16.x.x and api at 127.0.0.1
<Magik6k> And it attempts to use 172.16.x.x:5001
<stavros> ah, that'd be why
<stavros> you may want to use the localhost gateway
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<stavros> yeah
<stavros> it's looking at the same ip
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<Magik6k> I mean, 172.16 gateway is the localhost gateway, it's just not bound to 127.0.0.1 in my setup
<stavros> ah
<stavros> yeah right now this needs the gateway to be on the same host
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<stavros> so it won't work for unconventional setups
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<notbarton> is it possible to delete large files (> 10M) from my own node ?
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<notbarton> anybody ?
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<stavros> hello
<stavros> are there any public nodes with CORS enabled, for running apps publicly?
<Magik6k> notbarton, if the files are pinned(ipfs add pins automatically), you'd need to parse the pins and unpin them. You can run `ipfs repo gc` to remove unpinned files(this will remove all unpinned content)
<notbarton> so if a file isn't pinned it could be removed at anytime
<notbarton> ?
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<stavros> notbarton, yes
<notbarton> oh cool that solves everything thanks
<xelra> Can I make a file that has the same hash and essentially delete/destroy that other file on the network?
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<Magik6k> xelra, In theory yes(sort of), in practice, that would require you to be able to do hash collisions, which in case of sha256 would mean quite spectacular crypto apocalypse
<xelra> What concerns me actually more is how would one recover from such a collision?
<xelra> Because if I have money and I don't want certain content on ipfs, I'd maybe be interested in doing such a thing.
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<xelra> Doesn't that get us back right where we started? Trusted nodes/servers?
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<stavros> xelra, there are no such attacks possible currently, even for md5
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<Magik6k> No, you underestimate how hard it's to create such collision. Take the BTC hashrate, about 4.8e18/s now, to create a collision you'd need it to work for about 7.6e50 Years. This assumes that btc miners are made for creating collisions(which they are not)
<Magik6k> (This vory likely oversimplifies many things, but gives the high level perspective)
<Magik6k> s/vory/very
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<xelra> I see. So not even a single collision can happen.
<xelra> Kinda like waiting for a proton to decay.
<stavros> xelra, aw man, is that why the proton i've been watching hasn't decayed yet?
<xelra> irc, that likelihood is even lower. I think it's in the e20 years range.
<xelra> stavros: LOL! ;P
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<stavros> are there any public nodes with CORS enabled, for running apps publicly?
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<ligi> !pin b127b7e0694f7749fd15ac3e6a53638561cce4bcd74256c287aaf09b3018fd56 bad_paper
<notbarton> !help
<ligi> !reboot
<ligi> dam
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<ligi> !pin QmazT4UDbyjnkFLdg9HP7qqPAQNauZCUcTmohEga8JYA9X bad_paper_pdf
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<pinkieval> Is it possible to use ipfs get without making a copy, symmetrically to what ipfs add --no-copy does? ("ipfs cat" is not an answer, because it makes a copy to stdout)
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<voker57> pinkieval: ipfs refs?
<voker57> it still outputs something but only hashes
<pinkieval> voker57: yeah, but I want the content of the file
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<pinkieval> or directory
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<voker57> ah, you want not to download blocks into storage
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<pinkieval> voker57: use the filestore, actually
<voker57> I don't think there's such command yet
<pinkieval> ok, I'll open an issue then
<kthnnlg> Hi All, I understand that, to commit raw CBOR bytes to ipfs, the command is `echo <bytes> | ipfs dag put --input-enc raw`. What is the corresponding command to read raw cbor bytes, e.g., `ipfs dag get <hash>`, which yields raw CBOR? Is raw CBOR what I would get if I piped the output of `ipfs dag get` to some other process?
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<Magik6k> kthnnlg, `ipfs block get [cid]`
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<kthnnlg> Magik6k: super, thanks!
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<ligi> !help
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<whyrusleeping> ligi: is pinbot misbehaving?
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