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<vorshtein> tomatopeel: yeah can't expect poor gateway to be fast though I guess :) I was just in doubt that my node was working at all
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<bitbit> voker57: thanks!
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<snap> I noticed the libp2p forked off a repository I was once working on called: go-wireguard - are there any devs here that would like to discuss it? I might be inclined to work on it again if there's interest
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<ruunyan> are there currently any pinning-as-a-service companies? i only knew of one and it shut down recently
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<kpcyrd> whyrusleeping: still there?
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<pinkieval> ruunyan: not a company, but there is: https://pinbits.io/
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<Bat`O> pinkieval: © Pangalactic Dataworks, LLC ;)
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<pinkieval> right
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<pinkieval> I'm also thinking
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<kpcyrd> whyrusleeping: in case you've missed it: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/8a6eee75/
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<tomatopeel> hm `go get github.com/jbenet/go-ipfs/util` just hangs D:
<tomatopeel> (trying to build the first incarnations of ipfs cli from the first commits, probably a terrible idea lol)
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<tomatopeel> ah there's nothing there anymore, guess I'd have to build/install the appropriate older version of that repo
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<tomatopeel> https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/Rules.mk#L98 cmd/ipfs-install doesn't exist :s
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<tomatopeel> oh wow I'm an idiot... cmd/ipfs-install is the install dir
<tomatopeel> howcome we don't have to do ./configure and make, we can just make install?
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<pinkieval> ./configure and make is for builds handled by GNU autotools
<pinkieval> in particular, the Makefile is part of the *source* code, so there is no need to generate it with ./configure
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<tomatopeel> pinkieval: sorry I don't understand. The Makefile is part of the *source* code? What do you mean?
<pinkieval> when using GNU autotools, one does not write the Makefile themselves
<pinkieval> the Makefile is generated by autotools
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<pinkieval> so it's part of the (generated) code, but not the source code
<tomatopeel> oh i see, ty. Sorry, I'm a make noob.
<pinkieval> however, GNU autotools is a very complex system, so new software generally don't use it
<pinkieval> particularly if they are not written in C or C++
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<pinkieval> and a Makefile written manually usually works nowadays; GNU autotools were needed when architectures and OSs where a lot more heterogeneous than today
<tomatopeel> oic
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<tomatopeel> how do we know if TEST_NO_FUSE is set to 1 or not? https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/Rules.mk#L19
<tomatopeel> it seems to be set in circle.yml, is circle.yml read by make?
<tomatopeel> grep for circle doesn't return any lines with circle in from any of the make files.
<pinkieval> no, circle.yml is used by an external tool (CircleCI)
<tomatopeel> seems like this might just be for some CI system that I don't need to worry about
<tomatopeel> ah, ya
<pinkieval> TEST_NO_FUSE is set to 1 if someone (usually you) set it to this value
<pinkieval> otherwise, it is unset, so it is not 1
<pinkieval> to set it to one, run make like this: TEST_NO_FUSE=1 make install
<pinkieval> or like this: make install TEST_NO_FUSE=1
<tomatopeel> cool. So basically, when you run make install, it does all the stuff included in the mk/ dir which basically installs a shed load of deps using gx, and then it does this `go install` command here to install the cli tool https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/cmd/ipfs/Rules.mk#L26
<tomatopeel> and then somewhere it must put stuff in our $GOPATH/bin
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<pinkieval> yes
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<tomatopeel> https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/docs/debug-guide.md#analysing-the-stack-dump what command would have been ran to get this traceback? strace, or something else?
<tomatopeel> and what's this all about: go install -ldflags="-X "github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/repo/config".CurrentCommit=2f999d4b" ./cmd/ipfs
<tomatopeel> this is the go install command that is actually invoked, the "s are a bit confusing
<tomatopeel> I know -X is an ldflag to set a go variable within the code
<tomatopeel> so it sets the config commit variable I guess
<tomatopeel> and then installs ./cmd/ipfs ... okay yeah I think I get it
<tomatopeel> still not quite sure about those "s, but i get the idea I think
<tomatopeel> seems it's not really used for anything, just metadata that can be displayed when running the tool I guess
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<sprint-helper> The next event "IPFS All Hands Call" is in 15 minutes.
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<tomatopeel> hey I'm getting "QmNPv1yzXBqxzqjfTzHCeBoicxxZgHzLezdY2hMCZ3r6EU not found" when trying `gx deps` in the go-ipfs tree.
<tomatopeel> if I add the -r flag, it shows that this is the go-log package
<tomatopeel> hm, ipfs ls QmSpJByNKFX1sCsHBEp3R73FL4NF6FnQTEGyNAXHm2GS52 works
<tomatopeel> this is a different hash though (this second hash is the one in the package.json)
<victorbjelkholm> whyrusleeping: today you're supposedly the moderator of the all-hands
<tomatopeel> oh somebody answered in #gx
<victorbjelkholm> sprint-helper: ey
<sprint-helper> Error: Unrecognized command!
<sprint-helper> Correct usage: sprint-helper: announce <args> | next | now | tomorrow | help
<victorbjelkholm> sprint-helper: announce help
<sprint-helper> Error: Not enough arguments!
<sprint-helper> Correct usage: sprint-helper: announce <topic name> <sprint issue> <notes> <zoom> <stream url or message>
<sprint-helper> Error: Not enough arguments!
<sprint-helper> Correct usage: sprint-helper: announce <topic name> <sprint issue> <notes> <zoom> <stream url or message>
<sprint-helper> Error: Not enough arguments!
<sprint-helper> Correct usage: sprint-helper: announce <topic name> <sprint issue> <notes> <zoom> <stream url or message>
<victorbjelkholm> eeh
<whyrusleeping> go victor go
<whyrusleeping> if anyone missed it, the all hands is starting
<victorbjelkholm> I dunno, syntax seems right. Issue: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/464 |||| Notes: https://hackmd.io/BwJgLMDsAmCmCcBaeBje1FmiDoBmArIsHgEbDzynwgIAMQA=# ||||| Stream / Call in: https://zoom.us/j/779-351-365
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<tomatopeel> what is an all hands D:
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<whyrusleeping> uhm
<flyingzumwalt> sorry. that was my fault.
<whyrusleeping> tomatopeel: the all hands is our weekly community meeting
<flyingzumwalt> zoom's mobile app is confusing.
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<flyingzumwalt> Video webinars feature on Zoom costs an extra $40/mo
<flyingzumwalt> https://zoom.us/webinar
<lgierth> worth it
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<dgrisham> Kubuxu: sorry for the noise on the round robin PR, thanks for handling the labeling haha
<Kubuxu> dgrisham: it's a bot, I have no idea why it uses my nick to do it
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: your account is owned
<Kubuxu> I think I was first who gave it access to labels.
<tomatopeel> what is this zoom.us and is the "all hands" worth joining as a newcomer to IPFS source
<Kubuxu> and it is using it ince then
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<tomatopeel> also what is happening with orbit, development seems to have slowed at some point. It'd be cool if there was something like that but with webrtc vid conferencing support, then you wouldn't need to use zoom :D
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<dgrisham> Kubuxu: ah, gotcha. I was surprised at how fast it was, suspected a bot might be at play
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* yuvipanda likes Matrix (and is currently using it) as a really nice distributed chat platform
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<whyrusleeping> yuvipanda: lol, we irc users like our netsplits
<whyrusleeping> it reminds us that we are human
<crankylinuxuser> heh, either that, or it reminds us that IRC is a broken protocol made from back in the day that they made choices to cut features on the spec for bandwidth.. Remember, IRC was made back in '84 :)
<redfish> yuvipanda: matrix might be a great system for distributedly hosted dynamic websites, chat is only one application
<yuvipanda> whyrusleeping: https://twitter.com/yuvipanda/status/818348993474363392 ;) ('I just realized 'do not try to convince people who have made up their mind that IRC's UX is fine' is an amazing New Year's resolution.)
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<yuvipanda> redfish: yeah, possibly. I like that chat is their focus tho - I find that a lot of distributed web projects often get bogged down by expanding to solving the most generalized problem far too soon
<whyrusleeping> :D
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<francis[m]> What us the typical ram usage at the moment?
<whyrusleeping> around 500MB i'm seeing
<whyrusleeping> sometimes it spikes up above 1GB
<whyrusleeping> work on reducing that is coming soon, but its tricky
<crankylinuxuser> ive currently 669 connections and sitting around 610MB ram and ~10% CPU
<crankylinuxuser> im also sitting on a 1G connection. the macintrash can handle perhaps70% of the full line.
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<Magik6k> !pin QmNw61A6sJoXMeP37mJRtQZdNhj5e3FdjoTN3v4FyE96Gk go-cid-0.7.15
<whyrusleeping> Magik6k: for pinning gx stuff, use http://mars.i.ipfs.team:9444/
<Magik6k> oh, k
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<yuvipanda> does the IPFS fuse code cache stuff locally nicely?
<yuvipanda> if I fetch a file twice will the second time be pretty instant?
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<whyrusleeping> yuvipanda: yeah
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<yuvipanda> cool
<yuvipanda> whyrusleeping: I want to eventually automount it on beta.mybinder.org environments so people can fetch their datasets that way
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<M-hash> Oh that looks neat
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<yuvipanda> Eric thanks! :)
<yuvipanda> there's already an ipfs deamon available in htere at 'ipfs.ipfs' but I should probably streamline that to use the FUSE mounts
<yuvipanda> trouble is I need to figure out how to run the fuse binary inside a docker container but have it mount on the host
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<whyrusleeping> yuvipanda: let me know if you run into issues with fuse
<whyrusleeping> it hasnt gotten the attention it needs in a while
<yuvipanda> I haven't quite figured out how to deal with the container aspect yet.
* yuvipanda nods
<whyrusleeping> M-hash: now that youre back in SF, i can haz cbor?
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<yuvipanda> I guess I've to mount /dev/fuse from the host inside the container somehow
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<whyrusleeping> i remember someone having a dockerfile that did this
<whyrusleeping> one sec
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<mmuller> re fuse in a container, last time I tried it I needed to do something like this: https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/514#issuecomment-239334271
<mmuller> ah yes, perhaps it was "--privileged" instead
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<mmuller> (that rings a bell)
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<xelra> Any news on mounting for Windows?
<xelra> I'd really love to deploy ipfs private networks, but without mounting on Windows, it doesn't make much sense for me.
<M-hash> whyrusleeping: ya sure wanna make a date with a coffeeshop or a whiteboard or something?
<xelra> All the clients in my network are Windows. Only the servers are Linux.
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<SchrodingersScat> xelra: all those clients need to be 'fixed' to linux, obviously.
<xelra> lol ^^
<crankylinuxuser> I concur :)
<SchrodingersScat> but in all seriousness that does sound like a nightmare, good luck
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<crankylinuxuser> For Windows 10 there might be a way...
<crankylinuxuser> you can use the ubuntu for Windows thing, and access your FS from C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Lxss\
<crankylinuxuser> I'm not entirely sure how that would work with ipfs running, but it looks like the /mnt/ dir might be able to handle it
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<xelra> Yeah, I was thinking about doing it with Docker in the meantime.
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<spoonless[m]> is ipfs usable over tor?
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<whyrusleeping> spoonless[m]: technically yes, though with care
<whyrusleeping> and its not supported in the default client
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<spoonless[m]> thanks, where can I find more info?
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<whyrusleeping> spoonless[m]: the relevant plugin is here
<whyrusleeping> we need to write a doc on how to integrate it more easily though
<lgierth> isn't it a whole fork of go-ipfs?
<lgierth> and not just the transport?
<spoonless[m]> here?
<whyrusleeping> spoonless[m]: whoops, my paste buffer was empty
<spoonless[m]> thanks man
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<whyrusleeping> !pin QmYiGVxcwm3D2f3qcQKd58xbEBuygGTCWEYUoLa5kdGCiw dists ipfs 0.4.10-rc1
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: wheres pb?
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: pb?
<whyrusleeping> pinbot
<lgierth> oh, #ipfs-pinbot
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