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<Bat`O> when you receive a pubsub message, is there any garantee that the 'from' of the message is really the sender of the message ?
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<walle303> v0.4.10 is finally coming out soon?
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<ruunyan> what's the state of Tor integration? I heard that's been in the works for years, no idea where it's at
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<whyrusleeping> Bat`O: currently, no. Signing will be coming soon
<whyrusleeping> walle303: yeap! sorry this one took so long
<whyrusleeping> ruunyan: there is a tor transport, its not integrated into the default go-ipfs client though, we want to get a security audit for it first before we look into official integration
<whyrusleeping> karthik_: hello!
<walle303> I hope there's matrix integration in the future
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<whyrusleeping> walle303: what sort of matrix integration?
<walle303> Well, I know sometime after Dendrite is done, there's potential plans to make Matrix use IPFS as a media storage backend, but I was thinking it would be possible to rid the need of homeservers entirely in matrix and run directly on top of IPFS
<whyrusleeping> walle303: that would be really cool
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<walle303> There is orbit-db which proves that the essentials are possible
<whyrusleeping> Yeah, it should definitely be possible
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<Bat`O> whyrusleeping: thanks
<Bat`O> whyrusleeping: that will come with the keystore/encryption or is it unrelated ?
<whyrusleeping> Bat`O: its relatively unrelated, unfortunately
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<whyrusleeping> keystore encryption right now is blocked on figuring out exactly how to do it
<whyrusleeping> and cids of encrypted blocks need to be discussed
<whyrusleeping> bedtime
<Bat`O> i wish there would be a higher level way to browse the github issue accros multiple repo
<Bat`O> like a graph showing how there are connected
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<Bat`O> and you could say 'i want to be updated on what happen here'
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<francis[m]> whyrusleeping (IRC): thanks for those stats.
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<victorbjelkholm> Bat`O: there is https://github.com/jbenet/depviz/ for showing dependencies between issues in multiple repos as well
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<Bat`O> it seems that jbenet is always steps ahead of me ! dammit :p
<Bat`O> victorbjelkholm: thanks :)
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<walle303> How long does it take for orbit to start working usually?
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<Mateon1> walle303: Until you find another peer, might be that nobody is on right now
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<tomatopeel> is there a last seen mechanism in here
<tomatopeel> I was hoping for a "noffle"
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<ghadi> forgive me if the answer is "Don't do that" - but how can I create a "private" IPFS cluster that avoids joining the global swarm?
<ghadi> (if that is even possible)
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<crankylinuxuser> If I understand correctly, you could do that by removing all the bootstrap machines, setting up your own personal bootstrap, and then populating configs to only use your machines. But 1 client, with standard bootstrap could serve as a bridge relatively easy.
<crankylinuxuser> I think there were talks, once the protocol is solidified, to add a preshared key to create private IPFS clouds. I don't believe that exists as of yet.
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<dgrisham> ghadi, crankylinuxuser: the private networks feature is under 'experimental' right now, see https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3397 (look for Kubuxu's comment titled Private Networks)
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<crankylinuxuser> Awesome. Last time I looked into this, it 'wasnt' actually usable yet. Cool.
<crankylinuxuser> So this could serve as a intra-Datacenter private IPFS for things like container image propagation..
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<ghadi> thanks dgrisham
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<vorshtein> Hey, I've been playing around with js-ipfs in the browser (websockets). One problem I have is that files often don't load unless I first go to ipfs.io/ipfs/{my hash} and request them there as well
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<vorshtein> has anyone seen anything similar?
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<vorshtein> come to think about it, might be a problem with the ipfs websocket listener on my origin server, which would prevent it to load straight from there
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<Kubuxu> vorshtein: the problem is: you need either webrtc support (only in js-ipfs) or websockets-secure
<Kubuxu> go-ipfs can provide the second when coupled with SSL reverse-proxy in front
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<appa> ghadi: it seems like a dangerous method if the data is critical and the nodes aren't fully controlled.
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<vorshtein> Kubuxu: aaah wss is required?
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<vorshtein> Kubuxu: I was just going by the file transfer exampel in js-ipfs where they add plain /ws listeners to go-ipfs on the "source" node
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<crankylinuxuser> Hmm.. Looking at some other tech too.. I'm starting to really like GUN database. Crap name, since it's so hard to search for.
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<whyrusleeping> crankylinuxuser: huh, interesting
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<whyrusleeping> thats really cool
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<whyrusleeping> i like all their videos
<crankylinuxuser> Yeah, they're playing on the AP side of the CAP theorem, but with eventual C.
<whyrusleeping> yeah, probably using CRDTs
<crankylinuxuser> According to their GH, GUN is a realtime, distributed, offline-first, graph database engine. Doing https://github.com/amark/gun/wiki/100000-ops-sec-in-IE6-on-2GB-Atom-CPU ops/sec in just ~12KB gzipped.
<crankylinuxuser> So far, installing, running, and invoking it is stupidly simple.
<crankylinuxuser> The big thing they stress is it cant handle things like banking due to offline and eventual consistency.
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<crankylinuxuser> But for me, I'm looking at it with things like IoT and sensor network modeling and data acquisition. Mongo/Mosquitto can handle something like that, but this can do both.
<crankylinuxuser> and with a module, also supports graphQL
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<kythyria[m]> First thing that does that kind of sync I've heard of that doesn't do specifically json or character buffers.
<kythyria[m]> (json is obviously a subset of arbitrary graphs, but I have no proof of if rich text buffers are)
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<kythyria[m]> Hmm, I suspect that plain text buffers might be, inefficiently (if you have a true array type rather than faking it with objects like Lua does)
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