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<tomatopeel> what are multipart files?
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<tomatopeel> was just seeing that https://github.com/whyrusleeping/go-multipart-files NewSliceFile is used to... do stuff that it seems to me the golang stdlib just does anyway?
<tomatopeel> (ended up in this code from gx -> go-ipfs-api -> here)
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<tomatopeel> also what is the 'ready' label for on github issues on go-ipfs?
<pinkieval> for emails, multipart means the same email has more than one content-types (usually text/plain and text/html), so the reader can choose which one to display
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<pinkieval> it may have the same meaning here
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<tomatopeel> oh yeah it's something to do with MIME multipart parsing
<tomatopeel> but does this really apply to files...
<pinkieval> that would be in the spirit of making ipfs future-proof
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<tomatopeel> hmm okay... not super clear on the value here but can accept this and move on for now heh
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<Bat`O> tomatopeel: I think it's for uploading multiple file in a http request
<Bat`O> when you do a ipfs add (even local), files are streamed by the command line process to the daemon through the http API
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<stavros> hello
<stavros> how can i connect to my remote ipfs daemon?
<stavros> so "ipfs pin" on the local machine actually pins on the remote?
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<tomatopeel> Bat`O: so how does that necessitate the multipart file thing? Streaming files across reader/writer interfaces is nice with the Go stdlib right?
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<Bat`O> reader/writer would be the same process, right ?
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<xelra> Try replacing the ipfs binary with a call to "ssh user@x.x.x.x ipfs".
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<tomatopeel> Bat`O: same process? what? :o
<tomatopeel> oh you mean this is for asynchronicity or something?
<Bat`O> no
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<Bat`O> i mean that there is two process involved, the daemon and the command line client
<tomatopeel> yeah and they talk HTTP right?
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<tomatopeel> I'm actually about to start going through some of that code today, so maybe I'll have a better idea soon, heh
<stavros> can i extend the duration of IPNS names?
<stavros> or rather, can i make them last much longer when publishing?
<Bat`O> stavros: there is a ttl option but the real way is to publish periodically
<stavros> Bat`O, hmm, yeah, that's hard :/
<stavros> because the target version changes periodically as well
<stavros> can i at least get the daemon to do that for me?
<stavros> although it still won't know the latest version, hmm
<Bat`O> if you want to change the value you have to publish again anyway
<stavros> yeah, i do publish, i just want a way to point to the latest version without having to go through too much hassle
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<voker57> stavros: ipfs daemon automatically republishes your (self) key
<stavros> oh, fantastic, so it keeps republishing to the last published value of each key?
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<stavros> hmm, it's not in 0.4.9...
<stavros> or in 0.4.10
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<stavros> this docker image only has 0.4.8, shouldn't it be updating? https://hub.docker.com/r/jbenet/go-ipfs/
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<voker57> [14:59:59] <stavros> oh, fantastic, so it keeps republishing to the last published value of each key?
<voker57> yes
<stavros> voker57, that's great, where can i find that version?
<stavros> or command
<voker57> command? you can find latest version of ipfs on github
<stavros> voker57, does it just republish automatically? i don't see any cli option anywhere
<voker57> yes
<stavros> ah, alright, do you know which version this was first released in?
<voker57> self key was republished even in 0.4.6 iirc
<voker57> as for other keys, see issue in question, not sure
<stavros> hmm thanks
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<victorbjelkholm> stavros: for a docker image, should use https://hub.docker.com/r/ipfs/go-ipfs/ instead
<victorbjelkholm> it should be up-to-date
<stavros> oh, thanks, googling turned up the old one
<victorbjelkholm> yeah, happens with docker image + some other libs that went from jbenet -> ipfs org on github
<stavros> hmm, wait a minute
<stavros> 16:45:19 $ docker run ipfs/go-ipfs:latest --version --> ipfs version 0.4.8
<stavros> victorbjelkholm, turns out that's what i've been running all along
<victorbjelkholm> stavros: yeah, you probably want ipfs/go-ipfs:master instead of :latest, :latest tag doesn't seem to be updated
<stavros> oh
<victorbjelkholm> not sure why, :latest is more common in docker-world
<stavros> that's 0.4.10-rc1
<stavros> victorbjelkholm, hmm, maybe there should be a stable tag
<stavros> i guess i can just specify one
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<victorbjelkholm> stavros: agree, created this https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/3999
<stavros> victorbjelkholm, thanks, i have +1ed it
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<stavros> hmm, i'm seeing the IPFS API daemon never reply to an HTTP POST, has anyone else seen that? looks like it just keeps the connection open
<stavros> hmm no, it seems to return bad request
<stavros> odd
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<ttk2[m]> is there any reason ipfs couldn't be used in a peer to peer only environment (as in nodes ABC, A can talk to the internet B and C can't, but B can talk to A and C can talk to B). From my memory of the whitepaper ipfs doesn't depend on remote lookups just requests to peers however they may be aquired.
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<pinkieval> ttk2[m]: no
<pinkieval> you can even run a network completely disconnected from the main ipfs network
<stavros> pinkieval, does that mean A will relay for B and C?
<stavros> or will the content that's not on A just be unavailable to B and C?
<pinkieval> I think so
<pinkieval> but I'm not completely sure
<Magik6k> There is relay protocol being implemented for that
<Magik6k> So it's not possible yet
<pinkieval> oh :(
<ttk2[m]> so right now B and C could get content that's physically on A but not relay requests?
<Magik6k> Not yet
<ttk2[m]> ok then that might be enough for now anyways.
<ttk2[m]> what's the status of the relay protocol? stalled, active progress, in planning?
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<Magik6k> There is a PR in go-libp2p(https://github.com/libp2p/go-libp2p/pull/190) and js-ipfs has good progress too: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/833
<ttk2[m]> looks like a stub but progress is progress. Thanks!
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<stavros> is there anyone here who proxies the daemon's port 5001?
<stavros> i keep getting connection refused on POSTs
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<tomatopeel> whoa ipfs gets deep once you get to the daemon parsing the config and whatnot... "supernode" aha...
<tomatopeel> wonder what's with all these hardcoded IP's though O.o
<tomatopeel> getting to the end of my day, looks like I'll finally be on the cool DHT stuff tomorrow though :))
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<whyrusleeping> tomatopeel: the hardcodec IPs are our gateway bootstrap nodes
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<tomatopeel> whyrusleeping: any docs on what all "gateway bootstrap" is? :p
<tomatopeel> you mean nodes doing the HTTP gateway?
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<tomatopeel> whyrusleeping: oh right, thanks. Is this part of any of the DHT specs mentioned in the old whitepaper? I searched for "bootstrap" in the whitepaper
<tomatopeel> I'm wondering if good old bittorrent had something like this also or not
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<whyrusleeping> yeah, bittorrent also uses bootstrap nodes
<whyrusleeping> you have to have some way to initially connect to the network
<tomatopeel> ah you can't just do like a world-wide broadcast message style thing heh
<tomatopeel> I always wondered whether questions like this have different answers in ipv6 world
<crankylinuxuser> IP4 doesn't support multicasting. And broadcasting is killed the moment you hit a 'net router.
<crankylinuxuser> IP6 does support multicasting, but many places still have shoddy 6 coverage, or bugs in the IP stack, or questionable firewall rules that do really bad things.
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<deltab> crankylinuxuser: 'support multicasting' in what sense? aiui, ipv4 has multicast but WANs don't carry it
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<crankylinuxuser> Ive also found, that it may be part of the spec, nothing really supports it. Obviously broadcast packets are a thing, but I've only found limited devices that even support ACK'ing from ping -b
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<spoonless[m]> ipv4 does support mutlicasting crankylinuxuser, class D addresses
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<spoonless[m]> not sure if mbone is still working, don't think it really took off though
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<ruunyan> why won't "ipfs ls /ipns/xyz" work when the name xyz was published on my own node?
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