lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.10 is out! https://dist.ipfs.io/#go-ipfs | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<Rusty78> Quick question
<Rusty78> If I wanted to list all IPFS peers on the entire network how would you recommend I go about this?
<Rusty78> Or is there a similar maxconnection setting similar to Bitcoin for the number of nodes I can connect to at a time?
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<SchrodingersScat> Rusty78: hello
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<Rusty78> SchrodingersScat: Hi there
<Rusty78> How's it going?
<SchrodingersScat> Rusty78: well, ipfs swarm peers command definitely dumps a list, for mine it lists 774 peers, presumably those are ones I'm connected to
<Rusty78> Oh wow, ok so that sounds like they don't place default limits on number of peers to connect to
<SchrodingersScat> not sure about maxconnection type settings...
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<SchrodingersScat> i've never checked for this though, so it may very well exist
<Rusty78> If your connected to over 700 peers I am skeptical that they are limiting connected peers
<Rusty78> I know bitcoind has a max connection setting which severely limits the # of peers by default
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<Rusty78> It seems that only a max storage property has been added, nothing related to peers or bandwidth limiting
<SchrodingersScat> cause you should really only need to confirm your blocks with n number peers before you accept it as 'good' although I could see wanting to increase that in case you suspected you were surrounded by foes all feeding you the same wrong information, but then again do THEY want to connect to you? Whereas with ipfs you want more machines to make dht calls to, presumably.
<Rusty78> Yeah I was more curious about exploring/mapping out the network and number of peers and current behavior (average time online, etc)
<Rusty78> Thank you for your info, I really appreciate it
<SchrodingersScat> yep, have fun
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<Akagi201> :grinning:Does anyone know when will IPFS ICO announcement be published?
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<whyrusleeping> Akagi201: ipfs is not doing an ICO. Its for filecoin
<Akagi201> Will most IPFS applications use filecoin?
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<whyrusleeping> that depends on what they are try to do, but in general, filecoin will the easiest way for an ipfs application to persist its data
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<r0kk3rz> depends on how cheap it is really
<r0kk3rz> it kinda needs to be on par or cheaper than aws
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<aboodman> Kubuxu: fyi submitted a small pr to https://github.com/ipfs/examples/pull/84
<Kubuxu> aboodman: one small thing
<aboodman> i see, fixing
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<samae> icidasset: that's a really cool idea
<icidasset> @samae Thanks!
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<gde33> I had a momnet of brain activity, cant tell if briliant or stupid: Oracles for smart contracts using a web api seems the dumbest idea. Some ipfs frankenwallet, for websites, could manage registration and encryption while providing data to smart contracts without depending on a centralized server.
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<r0kk3rz> in many ways oracles are a dumb idea anyway
<r0kk3rz> if you need one, you're probably better off not using a blockchain
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<gde33> r0kk3rz: That seems an overly general statement
<gde33> r0kk3rz: it could do something very simple that is useful to the contract
<gde33> r0kk3rz: something like check if a topic to be voted on actually exist?
<gde33> r0kk3rz: some basic computation can get expensive fast on ethereum
<r0kk3rz> gde33: in general the information will have to be pushed into the blockchain
<r0kk3rz> how you do that is up to you
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<Kythyria[m]> Absent oracles, you can't really do anything that requires information from outside the chain though?
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<r0kk3rz> and even with them, you can only do things once the information is on the chain
<aboodman> you can "do things". you just cant do it on-chain.
<aboodman> you have to do it client-side.
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<r0kk3rz> yeah, in which case it starts to look like a normal application with some blockchainy bits bolted on
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<aboodman> r0kk3rz: agree! that seems desirable to me tho. whole lotta tools in the software ecosystem that it's nice to reuse.
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<r0kk3rz> yeah theres lots of things you can do with it, but do we really need a new buzzword for 'a server that serves stuff when asked'
<r0kk3rz> aka 'oracle' oooOOoooOoO
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<lgierth> :D:D:D
<lgierth> new filecoin paper here: https://filecoin.io/filecoin.pdf
<bret> nice!
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<bret> congrats dude!
<bret> dudes* dudets*
<bret> I like the geiger counter noises for the HDD activity
<bret> very HL-esq
<lgierth> hah thanks
<aboodman> awesome, congrats
<bret> I come from a physics background. Whats the name of these bra-ket looking notation in the paper?
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<bret> notations*
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<aboodman> @lgierth i didn't see it on hn new, so I submitted it. Hope that's ok?
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<lgierth> sure :)
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<bret> lgierth: is there going to be an ICO?
<bret> i bet it will sell out faster than the brave one
<bret> is this still the primary ipfs dev channel?
<bret> or is there a slack now?
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<lgierth> bret: there's #ipfs-dev for actual development discussion of go-ipfs and js-ipfs, mmh, and that used to be mentioned in the topic
<cwahlers_> can normal people participate in the token sale? i.e. people who earn less than $200k or have a net wort of less than $1m? :)
<bret> lgierth: oh yeah thats right
<vyzo> limited to accredited investors
<vyzo> that's so sad
<vyzo> but hey, Early Miner Program!
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<bret> Juan can I come hang out on your boat next year?
<bret> ;D
<achin> i wonder what the accredition process looks like
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<bret> achin: i imagine part of it is looking at how large your bank account is
<achin> looking at angellist, there seem to be a few tiers, each with their own minimum investment. from $1000 to $0.6mil
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<whyrusleeping> you wouldnt believe how hard it is to do a token sale without running off to some random country, starting a non-profit, then accepting donations in exchange for coins, and paying your US company with funds from that non-profit.
<Stskeeps> not to mention getting your bank to accept it as non-money laundering funds
<achin> yeah, pretty sure most of us litterally have no idea
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<achin> will there be some announcement about mining later this year?
<lgierth> achin: phew... first we need to write some code :):)
<achin> hehe
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<aboodman> lgierth: code? you must be new to ico's
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<lgierth> i know i know :)
<lgierth> msg identify
lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.10 is out! https://dist.ipfs.io/#go-ipfs | Dev chat: #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<rameater> i have a question. im interested in filecoin, but its only available for investors?
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<whyrusleeping> rameater: Hey, could you join #filecoin? i can help answer questions there
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