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<Rusty78> Hi everyone! I am still learning about IPFS, does IPFS need to be bootstrapped initially with nodes?
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<whyrusleeping> Rusty78: If you want to connect to the main network, yes
<whyrusleeping> you need to bootstrap *somehow*
<whyrusleeping> the default way of doing that is via our bootstrap nodes
<Rusty78> yeah I was curious whether the system was similar to .torrent files where they include a node key that contains the closest nodes known
<whyrusleeping> currently no, its more similar to magnet links
<Rusty78> Gotcha! thank you
<whyrusleeping> we could maybe at some point make a file that contains an ipfs hash and some seed nodes
<whyrusleeping> might be interesting
<Rusty78> What are the current main bootstrap nodes?
<Rusty78> I was looking through the go-ipfs project and haven't found them yet :/
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<whyrusleeping> they are put into your config file when you run `ipfs init`, in the code here: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/repo/config/bootstrap_peers.go
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<Rusty78> Perfect, exactly what I was missing, thanks again :)
<whyrusleeping> no problem :)
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<ipfstester> hi guys, i'm currently exploring ipfs - sounds like a great idea but had a colleague who bounced an idea off me asking if it was possible to make it as a private repository.
<ipfstester> I found the github for ipfs-infrastructure and was wondering if there's a more detailed guide on setting up a private instance of it
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<Bat`O> ipfstester: there is private network feature that restrict who can connect in a cluster of nodes
<ipfstester> Bat`O: Thanks, can I trouble you to link me to the right documentation?
<ipfstester> Thank you^ whyrusleeping
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<apeyroux> hello
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<whyrusleeping> apeyroux: hello!
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<apeyroux> I do not understand the difference between ipfs add and ipfs files write
<whyrusleeping> apeyroux: `ipfs add` adds a file, ipfs files write writes data into 'mfs'
<whyrusleeping> mfs gives you a virtual filesystem view of data
<whyrusleeping> `ipfs add` just ingests data
<apeyroux> ok
<apeyroux> And ipfs files rm does what exactly?
<apeyroux> I understand that it removes "fs" but not the "cluster"
<apeyroux> Imagine, I'm sending a file with add which contains peronel information. How I can do to delete this file from the network. An ipfs files rm is not enough?
<whyrusleeping> apeyroux: this might answer a few of your questions: https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/can-i-delete-my-content-from-the-network/301
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<garfuncle> I have a FreeNAS server with 64 TB of useable storage. What can I do with it to provide something to the IPFS network? Can I make it so people are able to upload their data there? I was thinking 250 MB maximum indivisual filesize limit.
<garfuncle> I am not sure if I misunderstand the ipfs network so I am sorry If I am ignorant of the capabilities of this project.
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<apeyroux> whyrusleeping: Thank you, I had already seen this link. I wanted to see if anyone had ever had this practical case.
<garfuncle> I guess my idea is to make it so at least for the majority of the users on IPFS there will be at least one place able to mirror their data.
<patagonicus> garfuncle: For one thing there's https://github.com/BrendanBenshoof/cachewarmer which you can use to act as a mirror for (some) IPFS data.
<patagonicus> Hmm, although it looks like the repo isn't maintained.
<whyrusleeping> garfuncle: an easy way would be to just run a public gateway
<whyrusleeping> that makes it easy for anyone to cache data on your machine
<garfuncle> Hm. Ok. Thank you.
<whyrusleeping> I think it would be cool to have a little frontend that allows users to name files, so you as a server administrator can see all the files youre caching for people
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<garfuncle> I will see what I can do. I am probably trying to make things more complicated than they should be with FreeNAS.
<garfuncle> I wonder if I could make so I could limit the data uploaded based on the user hashes. Like this person has uploaded 4.5 of data via photos, pdfs and videos. They have 1.5 gb left before they no longer have anymore to store.
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<whyrusleeping> hrm...
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<whyrusleeping> the only way you could do that is by only caching content in users ipns entries
<whyrusleeping> which actually isnt a bad idea
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<patagonicus> But isn't it easy to have multiple instances of ipfs with different ipns entries running on a single machine?
<Kubuxu> patagonicus: for multiple IPNS names you don't need multiple ipfs instances
<Kubuxu> use: `ipfs key --help`
<patagonicus> Ok, so even easier to abuse that. :)
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<vorshtein> daviddias: I can always give it a go :)
<vorshtein> (re js-libp2p-crypto performance)
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* Kythyria[m] gets a sudden thought: How big is soundcloud anyway.
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<whyrusleeping> Kythyria[m]: about a petabyte
<whyrusleeping> would cost about $2mm
<Kythyria[m]> Yeesh, seriously?
<whyrusleeping> yep
<Kythyria[m]> Nobody has space to pin all of that :(
* whyrusleeping went down this road yesterday
<whyrusleeping> a few people have backed it all up in google drive supposedly
<whyrusleeping> which doesnt do much for public shareability
<Kythyria[m]> I seriously doubt anyone has a complete backup of soundcloud.
<Kythyria[m]> Does GDrive even let you use that much space even if you pay?
<lemmi> so.. is soundcloud going down an actual thing? or just the usual hysteria because the fired people?
<Kythyria[m]> No idea
<r0kk3rz> no individual should have to pin the whole thing...
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<Kythyria[m]> r0kk3rz: You'd have trouble pinning an index in that case
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<r0kk3rz> yes indexing might still be centralised
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<Kythyria[m]> And regardless I'm thinking "how hard could it be to dump specific soundcloud objects in a comprehensive format".
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<aceluck> It would be killer publicity for ipfs though if we saved all the soundcloud contents
<Kythyria[m]> There'd have to be like, a petabyte of storage though.
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<aceluck> Yes, but it wouldn't need to all reside on one node
<Kythyria[m]> True. It's index that's hard.
<aceluck> I'm sure 80% of that petabyte is junk though
<Kythyria[m]> Yeah.
<Kythyria[m]> I wonder how much is reposts.
<aceluck> Not sure if there's duplication as wel
<aceluck> Exactly - reposts would get deduped
<Kythyria[m]> Even if only the actual audio was deduplicated, you could get a long way that way. Though... does IPLD have transitively weak references?
<Kythyria[m]> Like, you don't want pinning a single sound to pin the entire of soundcloud.
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<aceluck> Maybe the way to go is make a script and a webpage explaining a user of soundcloud how to save an pin his own stuff by running the script, that would fetch it, install an ipfs node, and pin it for him
<Noxarivis[m]> My data got corrupted
<aceluck> I'm not sure - afaik you can decide whether to pin recursively or not
<Kythyria[m]> Come to think of it, the weakness of a reference in IPLD during pin has exactly the problem of instructing a web crawler how deep to recurse.
<Noxarivis[m]> I am at high data loss without backup
<Kythyria[m]> When to recurse depends on the data and how much you want to pin.
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<Kythyria[m]> eg, it's kind of annoying that furaffinity's URLs are `/user/:name` `/gallery/:name/page` `/view/:workid` etc
<Kythyria[m]> There's no context-free set of follow/don't follow rules that can pin a single user's gallery.
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<Noxarivis[m]> It's ironic that we want to rebuild the web but depend on freenode to communicate
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<Noxarivis[m]> I hope that will change
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