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<xelra[m]> SchrodingersScat: If ISPs really store a big portion of ipfs in their own network, there would be real similarities with Usenet.
<xelra[m]> I think support for ipfs:// in the major browsers would be ideal.
<xelra[m]> That's never going to happen without ipfs in C++ though.
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<kpcyrd> or rust
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<Kythyria[m]> > When started using ipfs, I had the very same idea of keeping a gateway on home router, but soon I realized that the power of ipfs relies on running it on every station capable in doing it.
<Kythyria[m]> Eh, if they're all hidden behind the same firewall it's not as valuable.
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<TheGillies> my ipfs + rdf based social network
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<TheGillies> takes an rdf triple of social data and a signature, checks social data for public key, and uses it to verify signature
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<SchrodingersScat> xelra[m]: heh, that would be kinda like usenet.
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<harlock[m]> Where need to install ipfs on the host system or on the server vps?
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<SchrodingersScat> harlock[m]: that is up to you?
<harlock[m]> SchrodingersScat: I think, it's worth trying on the server
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<xelra> harlock[m]: If your host is Windows, keep in mind that mounting is not yet available there. You might be able to circumvent that with some kind of VM/Docker.
<xelra> I've been wanting to use the Docker image myself and try out how well things work, but unfortunately my CPU doesn't run Docker. :(
<xelra> ... or Hyper-V.
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<Rug> Is there any way to view the files (filenames) that you have uploaded if you don't know the hash? i.e. yesterday i uploaded 2 files. Without using the web browser, how do I "find" them?
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<SchrodingersScat> Rug: if you uploaded them then you likely pinned them as well, so you could check your pins
<Rug> ipfs add filename.123 pins it too? Wow I didn't know that. thanks
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<SchrodingersScat> Rug: ipfs pin ls -t recursive -q is what I use
<Rug> excellent, thanks!
<Rug> Is there anyway to see the 'real' filename ?
<SchrodingersScat> Rug: if you wrapped it then it should show when you ls it
<SchrodingersScat> Rug: otherwise I think ipfs ls displays Error: merkledag node was not a directory or shard
<SchrodingersScat> Rug: I could be wrong though, hang around a bit.
<Rug> I am really trying to wrap my head around this. It just seems like I am missing something.
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<Rug> What do you get when you run this command: % ipfs pin ls --type=all |wc -l
<Rug> 3634
<Rug> Does that mean that my node can see 3634 other 'gateways', or gateways+files, or files?
<koalalorenzo> that means that your node is "hosting" 3634 objects. That could be Files, Directories... Not nodes
<Rug> ok, so i run ipfs get <hash> My computer responds with Saving file(s) to <hash>. Where are they?
<Rug> Or even better, is there a wiki/how-to that explains all this? I've been all over the ipfs.io guide and it just isn't helping me.
<Rug> =(
<Rug> I'd hate to be too annoying.
<r0kk3rz> Rug: its got its own store
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<koalalorenzo> @Rug it is saved into your store. Inside the IPFS store. usually it is inside `~/.ipfs` :)
<koalalorenzo> but you should be able to configure that
<koalalorenzo> @Rug (you are not annoying! ;-) ) You can also use `ipfs swarm peers` to get the list of peers you are connected to
<Rug> koalalorenzo: % ipfs swarm peers |wc -l
<Rug> 324
<koalalorenzo> Exactly! :) You are connected to 324 peers! 😃
<Rug> I know I am connected, but I need to be able to interact with this via the CLI
<koalalorenzo> What are you trying to achieve, if I may ask?
<Rug> How do i find out the 'real filenames' that some of these hashes represent?
<Rug> I need to be able to upload a file. Then at a later date retrieve it without knowing what that hash was/is?
<koalalorenzo> The filenames are probably something coming up with IPLD (Plz somebody correct me if I am wrong). But you can add the file with a "wrapper object", that will work as a directory. So you can actually have the file name as well.
<koalalorenzo> try to use `ipfs add -w ./your_file_here` and then use the hash on http://ipfs.io/ipfs/LAST_HASH
<Rug> koalalorenzo: Thanks I'll give that a try.
<koalalorenzo> but you always need the hash to retrieve a file :-)
<Rug> ok understood
<r0kk3rz> Rug: id store an index of hashes somewhere
<r0kk3rz> theres no guarantee two files with the same name hash the same
<Rug> r0kk3rz: yeah, I'll just script it to insert into a DB
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<r0kk3rz> Rug: whats the purpose of using IPFS?
<Rug> I am looking at large-scale site backups. So to submit the file, and retrieve it later. I was _hoping_ that in the event of a DB crash, I could just do a "ipfs ls <hash>" and it would show me the filename
<r0kk3rz> Rug: but without a seperate system downloading the hash, it wont go anywhere
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<Rug> r0kk3rz: as it stand right now, the plan was to have all of our data-centers participate. Think of it as a dissconnected file-server cluster
<r0kk3rz> sure, you'd be interested in ipfs-cluster
<Rug> That way it also acts as a CDN
<r0kk3rz> which is more or less what you're talking about
<Rug> r0kk3rz: thanks, looking into that
<Rug> That is perfect thanks!
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<Rug> ok, one last question (for now). Is the future plan/hope to make ipfs into a full internet protocol? Scenerio: Youtube-like site. "Becky" wants to watch one of our videos. So she clicks play. That URL points to ipfs://<hash> for the video, so she is now downloading/streaming from our swarm.
<Rug> It's my understanding that this is how IPFS is designed to work.
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<r0kk3rz> basically yes
<r0kk3rz> js-ipfs is the major step towards that goal
<r0kk3rz> it allows an ipfs node to be bootstrapped in browsers, today
<Rug> r0kk3rz: Thanks for all of your help.
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<Rug> Does anybody know how I can reslove these errors: too many open files client.go:247
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<SchrodingersScat> Rug: what version are you on? i thought they took care of that? or there's probably a setting
<Rug> ipfs version 0.4.10
<SchrodingersScat> k :(
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<Rug> go version go1.8.3 linux/amd64
<SchrodingersScat> whyrusleeping: would know what to do :(
<Rug> ok thanks.
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<Rug> When filecoin debuts, do you know if it will use the existing IPFS setup, or will I need to start from scratch rebuilding? =)
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<r0kk3rz> Rug: im not sure filecoin is any further than the whitepaper stage
<Rug> ok.
<Rug> We are looking at either continue hosting ourselves, (600TB-800TB) or "spreading it around'
<Rug> So i am tasked with 'finding a good solution' aka "see if this will work" =)
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<Rug> I really want to thank the group for the suggestion to use 'wrap'. I think that will sove 80% of my problems.
<lemmi> Rug: too many open files: you might run against file limit. check ulimit -a (or -n)
<lemmi> there are several ways to raise the limit, but usually depends on your taste and distribution
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<Kubuxu> Rug: when are you hitting the too many files?
<Kubuxu> on add?
<Kubuxu> can you check in daemon logs if the ulimit is raised?
<Rug> ok, one sec.
<Kubuxu> and if it is, just raise it a bit more. We are working on connection closing right now as the network grew fast and we keep to many connections == too many used fds.
<Kubuxu> Rug: filecoin will base off IPFS but the storage of miners will be separate.
<Rug> ummm, why doesn't: log ls produce output in alphebetical order?!?!
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<Kubuxu> Rug: just start a daemon, it should be 2 and 3 line of the output
<Rug> ahhh
<Rug> Kubuxu: Adjusting current ulimit to 2048...
<Rug> Successfully raised file descriptor limit to 2048.
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<Rug> Kubuxu: Is there a special option for ipfs ulimit, or are we talking about the global one?
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<Kubuxu> IPFS_FD_MAX=4096 ipfs daemon
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<Kubuxu> it should stop pegging so many FDs after it connects to the network
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<Rug> Kubuxu: that appears to have resolved it
<Kubuxu> yeah, we are working on more normal solutions for it
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<ehd> Hey, are writeable HTTP gateways available?
<ehd> *public, that is
<SchrodingersScat> ehd: not afaik
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<ehd> SchrodingersScat: Thanks! js-ipfs should work for my use case, too
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<Rug> Does running ipfs init completely wipe out all local data?
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<lemmi> ipfs init won't do anything to a existing repo
<Rug> lemmi: thanks
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<silur[m]> is the skademilla implementation in ipfs or libp2p repo?
<silur[m]> can't find it in either
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<Kubuxu> go-libp2p-kad-dht
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<_mak> what can be done when 2 nodes running pubsub (one pub and one sub) are not communicating?
<_mak> is there a way to 'force' them to find each other?
<Rug> How is the hash for a file generated? Can you 'pre-calulate' what a hash will be? i.e. I want to store cat.jpg on my webpage. Can I just take (my ipfs id HASH) * (cat.jpg |sha256) = cat.jpg<hash>
<Rug> That's is a dumb simplification ofcourse
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<r0kk3rz> there is an ipfs command for it iirc
<r0kk3rz> its a bit more complicated than a straight sha hash
<Rug> Yeah, sha256 and then Base58 (with 1200 added to the front
<Rug> I'm just trying to figure out if we can pre-compile the ipfs hash, or do we need the file first.
<r0kk3rz> you need the file
<r0kk3rz> and you need to use ipfs, because the file gets blockified and merkledagd
<r0kk3rz> and then hashed
<Rug> ok thanks
<r0kk3rz> yeah -n flag on the add command
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<_mak> how can I try to debug why a message being published by one peer is not being received by another one?
<_mak> both have pubsub-experiment enabled of course
<Rug> Woohoo: making progress: % ipfs add -n cat.jpg| awk '{print $2}'
<Rug> Thanks folks
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<kpcyrd> Rug: I think you can add -q to ipfs and drop awk :)
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