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<limbo_> Magik6k: will it work anywhere bittorrent does? Usually, that's the motvating factor for fixing one's network.
<limbo_> Other than running behind Tor, is there any way around having your IP exposed like that?
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<Magik6k> limbo_, not really, not that I'm aware of. It may be possible once relay is in, though tor seems to be the only reliable-ish way
<Magik6k> ipfs doesn't guarantee good privacy yet
<limbo_> That's not too bad, for my usecase.
<limbo_> Is there any way to check if a file already exists in ipfs without adding it yourself?
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<Magik6k> limbo_, You can hash it using `ipfs add -qn [file]` and check if it exists using findprovs
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<limbo_> Is there any way to run multiple instances easily? e.g. to make somethng like: ipfs add -qnr aDirectory/ | parallel ipfs dht findprovs work? (parallel is like xargs, but it splits up stdin and runs multiple jobs)
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<Magik6k> parallel should work
<limbo_> Probably an issue with the snappy package: "Error: cannot acquire lock: Lock FcntlFlock of /home/dudebro/snap/ipfs/206/.ipfs/repo.lock failed: resource temporarily unavailable"
<Magik6k> check if you don't have other daemon instance running
<limbo_> I wasn't running it at all when I got that error. (I fixed that after getting Error: routing service is not a DHT)
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<limbo_> ipfs isn't showing up with snappy on my debian machine. is there a different repo to ubuntu being used?
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<kpcyrd> limbo_: where did you find the snappy package? (I wasn't aware ipfs is distributing one)
<kpcyrd> limbo_: if you need to spin up lots of ipfs nodes I would recommend the docker image, but for your usecase a single daemon should be sufficient
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<limbo_> It was just in the repo on ubuntu.
<limbo_> Whatever that repo is.
<limbo_> I don't know if it's official, or anything. But it was the only non tarball installer I could find.
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<Bat`O> is there an efficient way to find if a hash is fully present locally ? (other than ipfs refs local | grep hash)
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<limbo_> deltab: I just get "error: cannot install "ipfs": snap not found" on debian.
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<Mateon1> Bat`O: By "fully present", you mean, all links under that hash are stored locally?
<Mateon1> Well, if ipfs pin ls <hash> returns recursive or indirect, all hashes under that hash are guaranteed to be stored locally (if the repo isn't corrupted :P)
<Mateon1> If the hash is not pinned, you have to write a script on top of `ipfs refs local` and `ipfs refs <hash>`
<Mateon1> Check recursively if all referenced hashes are in the local store
<Mateon1> I implemented something inverse to that a while ago, to find all 'roots' in my IPFS datastore
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<daviddias> Hi everyone! Today we have our community call as regularly scheduled - info: https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/468. See y'all there :)
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<Mateon1> daviddias: Will we get a stream today? Can't participate cause Zoom doesn't work for me
<daviddias> yeah, why not, let me figure out how to set that up in my machine :)
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<CrAzYPiLoT> I'd like a stream too, I'm interested in helping dev, so this is an opportunity for me to see what areas we're focusing on
<CrAzYPiLoT> Without bogging down the conference call ;)
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: Kubuxu do you convert the meeting into a webinar to do the youtube thing?
<Kubuxu> I have no idea how the stream from Zoom works.
<daviddias> CrAzYPiLoT: you wouldn't bog anyone :)
<daviddias> Kubuxu: I thought you were one of the persons that did it before
<dignifiedquire> no idea never done that with zoom
<daviddias> wait, seriously?
<Kubuxu> I could maybe stream it normally.
<Kubuxu> We were talking that it is an option in Zoom.
<CrAzYPiLoT> Nah, I meant in the technical sense, additional participants increase the latency, logically
<daviddias> I was pretty confident that we had streamed from zoom before
<dignifiedquire> maybe but not me
<Kubuxu> but I am not a Zoom power user.
<Kubuxu> I've streamed from my PC only.
<daviddias> ah!
<daviddias> You stream it using OBS?
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<Kubuxu> yup
<Kubuxu> Or if I am streaming to beam.pro then this: https://github.com/mixer/obs-studio-ftl
<Kubuxu> as it gives you <1s latency
<daviddias> Kubuxu does window capture in OBS also capture the audio coming from a window?
<Kubuxu> audio is usually completely separate capture
<Kubuxu> without any setup you can capture all audio
<Kubuxu> with some setup (at least on Linux) you can capture audio from specific source
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<Kubuxu> buy use of null-sink PulseAudio module
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<daviddias> wanna test the set up with me/
<daviddias> ?
<Kubuxu> let me switch to PC
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<vyzo> hey guys
<vyzo> so i see all-hands today!
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<whyrusleeping> awfully quiet this morning
<CrAzYPiLoT> I'm gonna be original and say that it's afternoon here
<Bat`O> midnight here o/
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<christop1ler> hello. Does any one have any capacity to have a little ! converstation about Kademlia routing edge cases?
<christop1ler> So like... what happens if you have a network saturated with 99.9% uptime cloud servers? How do new nodes communicate?
<Kythyria[m]> Very easily?
<Kythyria[m]> Since there's lots of nodes that are stable and thus few outdated DHT entries?
<christop1ler> I mean im eight in the morning and im waiting to filter water for the coffee machine so...
<christop1ler> Kythyria[m]: ok, but the new nodes cant get entries in the routing table, but they *can* get any of the content they are looking for from the DHT easily
<Kythyria[m]> Wouldn't the table expand to accomodate new nodes?
<christop1ler> not if the kbuckets are full with persistent nodes... well maybe it would, but I cant see how
<christop1ler> So the point of the routing table is to ensure that all nodes can get access to all the content of the hashtable, not to ensure coverage of all the peers.... Which means that messages arent being actually rooted to "new" peers, and the "new" peers are just making get requests, which are being serviced very well
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<christop1ler> is that about the size of it do you think?
<whyrusleeping> christop1ler: i'm not sure i understand what youre asking
<whyrusleeping> new peers would fill their routing tables up, and be added to the routing tables of other peers
<christop1ler> is that because new peers cause the "i" height of other peers in the prefix space to increase? Which means there are more k-buckets to fill?
<christop1ler> Im talking specifically about the eviction protocol based on adding peers only if the relevant k-bucket has no not-alive peers in it
<whyrusleeping> new peers might be 'closer' than other peers in some peers routing tables
<whyrusleeping> since its essentially random
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<christop1ler> hmm.. Ok. so I think what I have in my head is that "routing" applies to two things. One, "primarily" is the ability to find a peer that has the value for some hashKey that I got from somewhere, and "secondarily" to provide robustness for p2p stuff like nat punching and relaying... is that true?
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<whyrusleeping> yeah
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<christop1ler> so a dht that is "saturated" with 99.9% long uptime nodes has great availability for the "primary" routing goal.. how does it cope with the secondary routing goal?
<whyrusleeping> that should work just fine
<whyrusleeping> both goals are accomplished using the same mechanics
<christop1ler> so the long term uptime nodes would act as adhoc STUN services for "new" nodes, but the new nodes probably wouldnt need them
<christop1ler> since most everything would be available through fixed public ip anyway
<sprint-helper> The next event "IPFS All Hands Call" is in 15 minutes.
<christop1ler> ok. What about if a "new" node puts some data into the DHT and we need to specifically query it to validate the data that has been put? does the put request itself contain all the routing information necessary to set up a direct / relayed connection to the node?
<christop1ler> since the "new" node wont be added to any of the k-buckets
<Kubuxu> daviddias: do you want to stream or do you want me to stream?
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<daviddias> Kubuxu: yes please :)
<daviddias> pedrot: joining the call today?
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: you are the notetaker today, can you join?
<pedrot> yes, do you have a URL?
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: yes
<dignifiedquire> what's the url?
<daviddias> IPFS All Hands: https://zoom.us/j/779351365
<whyrusleeping> zoom is taking a painfully long time to connect..
<whyrusleeping> oh damn, i see why
<whyrusleeping> so many people!
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<reed_> Where can I find a list that shows the most frequent ipfs downloads?
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<SchrodingersScat> reed_: not sure if the log has dht requests heard in it or not...
<whyrusleeping> SchrodingersScat: it does, you could parse the log for findprovider messages
<SchrodingersScat> yeah, in fact I think i have a script for this
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<reed_> schroedinger: sth like this does it
<reed_> $ ipfs log tail | jq .peerID | head -n 100 | sort | uniq | sort -r
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<SchrodingersScat> whyrusleeping: I forget what I have to grep to see that again :(
<SchrodingersScat> thank you
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<SchrodingersScat> note, 'ipfshits' like 'ipfs hits' sounds almost crude
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<renat> hello everyone, i'm looking to add IPFS support into my website for hosting pictures - where do I begin to integrate IPFS ? thanks
<renat> would the JS implementation of https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs be the best solution? thanks!
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<Magik6k> renat, you'll probably want to use https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-service-worker though it appears to still be WIP
<renat> thanks @magik6k
<whyrusleeping> renat: it depends on what you actually want to do
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<whyrusleeping> 'ipfs support' is a pretty broad thing
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<renat> well I want to create a platform where people can upload media content, like videos & pictures with IPFS
<renat> the goal is to have people be able to create and upload their pictures & video content on their own computer, then when the content goes viral the world network will host the idea
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<renat> creating a dApp for the distribution of media content via IPFS
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<daviddias> Hi all! I've spent a bit of time polishing our YouTube channel so that it is easier to find great IPFS Demos. If you know some that I missed, please add the URL to https://github.com/ipfs/community/issues/260
<daviddias> Now it is also easier to find talks and podcasts https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdjsUXJ3QawK4O5L1kqqsew/playlists
<xelra> renat: That will probably not work the way you intend it to work, because the users of your service are unlikely to pin the content they're watching.
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<cwahlers> @daviddias: "IPFS & Ethereum Meetup @MIT April 20, 2106" .. no doubt about ipfs being The Future ;)
<daviddias> ahaha :D
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<fil_redpill> any meetup in SF in september?
<fil_redpill> I'll be visiting (from France) Sep. 8-24
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<whyrusleeping> fil_redpill: huh, maybe. I might be in the area around then
<whyrusleeping> If you want a meetup to happen, go post on ipfs/community
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<whyrusleeping> very sad fact: google-chrome uses WAY less battery than chromium
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<cwahlers> anyone in são paulo, brazil, up for a meetup? let me know: https://github.com/ipfs/community/issues/261
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