#ipfs on 2017-08-25 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2017-07-19 19:51 lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs v0.4.10 is out! https://dist.ipfs.io/#go-ipfs | Dev chat: #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0

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05:10 <joepie91> question: what exactly is the difference/relation between multicodec and multistream? this readme seems to use them interchangeably: https://github.com/multiformats/multistream

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06:46 <akagetsu01> morning o/

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09:33 <TsT> ipfs.io/ipfs/<hash> is supposed to be use for intensive/massive use ? :P

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09:51 <victorbjelkholm> TsT: sure :) In the future, we'll have the browsers or addons rewriting the url for you to local daemon instead

09:51 <victorbjelkholm> our gateways should be handle whatever you throw at them

09:52 <TsT> Should I expose my current challenge/issue ?

09:53 <TsT> A friend of me collect (for years) lot of documents

09:53 <TsT> he host them on his dedicated server, publicly available

09:53 <TsT> all this document are knowledge

09:54 <TsT> (lot of different domains of knowledge)

09:54 <TsT> he is victim of his success ... he got lot of download on his server

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09:54 <TsT> and his server become busy

09:54 <TsT> i/o limit reach

09:55 <TsT> reached

09:55 <TsT> then ... he should fix this problem to make one or more mirror

09:55 <TsT> or copy all or a part of these documents to ipfs :P

09:56 <TsT> Im playing with ipfs for that

09:56 <treora> victorbjelkholm: regarding this URL rewriting by browsers, I was wondering what pattern should look for, maybe you know: should they rewrite any URL whose path matches /ipfs/<hash>, or just when the full url matches https://ipfs.io/ipfs/<hash>? Is there a proposed standard about this? (I have not kept up with all the URI discussions)

09:57 <TsT> To reduce the i/o on his server, for a file request, instead of providing the file content he make a redirect to ipfs.io/ipfs/<the-file-hash> to the requester ...

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09:57 <TsT> we will move lot of BW from his server to ipfs.io

09:57 <TsT> is it a good idea ? :)

09:59 <lemmi> what documents are you talking about and how much traffic are you experiencing? moving to ipfs in general isn't a bad idea. if the content's worth it, people might just jump in and pin it

10:00 <victorbjelkholm> treora: yeah, we have some proposals around, cannot find the link right now, I'm sure lgierth knows where that discussion is being held

10:00 <victorbjelkholm> TsT: yeah, should be no problem for us :)

10:00 <Kythyria[m]> Better to only do rewriting when the resource is known to want it?

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10:02 <TsT> victorbjelkholm thanks

10:02 <TsT> (brb eating time)

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10:26 <treora> Kythyria[m]: how would you know what they want? Keep a list of domains? That's not a very decentralisation-friendly approach. Add a flag in e.g. /.well-known/ipfs? Cleaner, but it partly defeats the purpose since you then still depend on the original server being alive and reachable. As far as I can see, the flag has to be in the URL itself.. (unfortunately breaking the rule not keep URLs opaque, yes..)

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10:27 <Kythyria[m]> Matching on the path starting with `/ipfs/` wouldn't be opaque either.

10:30 <treora> (more about the mentioned rule of opacity of URLs: https://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Axioms.html#opaque)

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10:31 <treora> Kythyria[m]: yes sorry that's what I meant to say: "unfortunately breaking the rule to keep URLs opaque" (excuse my typos)

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10:34 <treora> Reading that rule again, I realise it would be slightly cleaner to put the 'flag' to detect an ipfs URL with not in the path, but in the subdomain, since that is being read by the browser to determine who to contact. Then the path could stay opaque during this decision.

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10:36 <treora> So perhaps we could check if hostname matches /^ipfs\./ ? I fear it is not much better however, but perhaps just a bit.

10:37 <Kythyria[m]> Obviously for some data it's possible to include a hint that you should switch to IPFS.

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10:50 <treora> lgierth: you are said to know where the URI discussion is held. The last discussions I have seen is the background story edited in March (https://github.com/ipfs/specs/pull/152/files); has the discussion by any chance continued elsewhere, and has it yet led to some rough consensus?

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13:03 <TsT> what is policies about user tracking, privacy, and more on ipfs.io ?

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14:01 <m0ns00n> So we're soon ready with a proof of concept IPFS driver in FriendUP.

14:01 <m0ns00n> We're allowing all FriendUP users to create an IPFS drive and use it as a disk in this web operating system.

14:01 <m0ns00n> I'm sure you may have some insights etc regarding our implementation, and perhaps you can also improve our solution.

14:02 <m0ns00n> We're using browser based encryption where possible to make sure that it's safe to store files using your web browser.

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17:08 <Powersource> am I understanding this correctly?: if I implement my app using a go-ipfs daemon and js-ipfs-api I should (eventually) be able to swap the js-ipfs-api import in my js code for js-ipfs and everything should still work?

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17:21 <whyrusleeping> Powersource: correct!

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19:44 <koalalorenzo> Hello from Copenhagen! We are doing a mini hackathon about js-ipfs and pubsub! https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmUH5Q15LDYkptzLJmecVZMSVtknm4J6dV7sjtnF2nUn6T/20170825-js-ipfs-hackathon.JPG

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19:50 <lgierth> looks more like an eatathon!

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19:52 <fabrixxm> My kind of *thon

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19:58 <lgierth> ikr

19:58 <lgierth> koalalorenzo: have a great evening :):)

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19:59 <koalalorenzo> ahahah :)

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20:01 <q3y4r[m]> cool

20:01 <ipfsnewbie> Hello! May I ask, is ipfs downloading blocks according to the ordering in the file or is ipfs downloading blocks in a random fashion?

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20:37 <whyrusleeping> ipfsnewbie: its tends to be randomized per dag branch

20:37 <whyrusleeping> but the branches are traversed in order

20:38 <whyrusleeping> (not exactly randomized, but they arent necessarily ordered at each point)

20:39 <ipfsnewbie> Thank you for the answer! How big are these branches? Are they different for a 1KiB/1MiB/100MiB file?

20:42 <ipfsnewbie> What actually interests me is whether IPFS takes advantage of peers that report that they have a block, even though the block belongs to the end of the file.

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20:44 <ipfsnewbie> In the future browser with IPFS, the download bar might represent how much of the file is downloaded, and not that the contents of 0-x% of the file are downloaded.

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21:11 <ipfsnewbie> I'm leaving. For those interested in the context/implications of IPFS: http://dci.mit.edu/assets/papers/decentralized_web.pdf (insightful: page 106, PDF 107)

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21:29 <Kythyria[m]> > In the future browser with IPFS, the download bar might represent how much of the file is downloaded, and not that the contents of 0-x% of the file are downloaded.

21:29 <Kythyria[m]> Well, I'd rather it work like in some torrent clients and fill up patchwork rather than left to right in that case :P

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21:29 <whyrusleeping> yeah, that UX is a fair deal nicer

21:30 <whyrusleeping> hrm... wheres my monocle?

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21:30 <whyrusleeping> there we go

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23:57 <Default> Hello, I am trying to publish a packing using gx. I get an error: "gx cannot publish using public gateways.". How does one connect to a public gateway?

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