<srpx>
Hello. I'd like to be able to return the IPFS hash of a string/buffer without using the HTTP API, from JavaScript. What exactly is the hash used?
<srpx>
I.e., the same hash that would be returned if I called `ipfs.add("something")`, but without actually using the HTTP API.
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<srpx>
nobody?
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<srpx>
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<quang>
hi guys
<quang>
is this project more mature than telehash
<quang>
it seems like i am having problems getting telehash installed with npm
<quang>
so when i saw this
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<pawn>
The struggle is real for implementing IPFS in the web browsers, biggly.
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<pawn>
Can someone explain to me how ipfs gateways are secure? All local storage is shared between all IPFS addresses.
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<TheGuyWho>
the hell happened there?
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<Kubuxu>
TheGuyWho: netsplit
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<Kubuxu>
Freenode servers desynced from eachother.
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<TheGuyWho>
ah okay i got freaking klined haha
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<TheGuyWho>
was like jeeze i know im a bit of a afker but bloody hell
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<Kubuxu>
TheGuyWho: aah, also got K-lined, so it looks like they were closing one server
<Kubuxu>
or group of servers
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<TheGuyWho>
ah that makes sense
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<srpx>
Is anyone online? I've spent the last 6 or so hours trying to call an API endpoint
<srpx>
In what now became a sad record on my life lol
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<srpx>
Specifically, /block/put
<srpx>
If anyone is able to give me an example on how to call that endpoint with axios or similar HTTP library, to upload a buffer, I'd be so thankful...
<srpx>
problem is, I have no idea what -F thing is (never used it before)
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<Kubuxu>
It creates multipart stream without input of name `file` and content of stdin
<srpx>
Kubuxu: btw, why did you warn me about block?
<srpx>
Should I worry about using block/put?
<Kubuxu>
because it is how ipfs stores files on disk
<Kubuxu>
and there is very specific format for that
<srpx>
so if I upload raw binary data it won't work?
<srpx>
what I'm supposed to use instead?
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<Kubuxu>
ipfs add
<srpx>
Kubuxu: it is meant to store raw binary data? If so, how is the hash computed for that format? I was able to compute the hash returned by block/put, but I'm not sure what the hash returned by add is (it is different)
<Kubuxu>
if you use `ipfs add --raw-leaves` it won't be different unless the file is bigger than 256KiB
<srpx>
this is how I got the hash of block/put: bs58.encode(multihash.encode(new Buffer(sha256(data),"hex"), "sha2-256"))
<srpx>
it won't be bigger than 256KiB
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<srpx>
let me see
<Kubuxu>
yes block/put will give you this hash but `ipfs cat` won't be able to use it right, for example to send it over network
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<srpx>
interesting
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<Kubuxu>
but if you can guarantee that file won't be bigger than 1MiB then you can use `ipfs block put --format=raw`
<Kubuxu>
it will give you hash in new format and this will work with everything
<Kubuxu>
it is sha256 of that data prefixed
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<Kubuxu>
but the hash is prefixed with 4 bytes (and a `z` if encoded in base58)
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<srpx>
just append ?raw-leaves=true to the url and I'll get the same hash as put, right?
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<srpx>
seems like I'll need to fork ipfs-mini indeed, as "add" is hardcoded on its source, can't add opts
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<srpx>
Kubuxu: using --raw-leaves still gives me a different hash :(
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<srpx>
specifically, uploading "foo" with "put" gives QmRJzsvyCQyizr73Gmms8ZRtvNxmgqumxc2KUp71dfEmoj
<srpx>
with add, gives QmcJw6x4bQr7oFnVnF6i8SLcJvhXjaxWvj54FYXmZ4Ct6p
<srpx>
with add --raw-leaves, gives zb2rhZcdMzBSGEjx2xbFsY9pTpMgegGQLEWsNpPnUzbPwCx1T
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<Kubuxu>
add `--format=raw` to `block put`
<Kubuxu>
also raw-leaves will give you different hash for data bigger than 256KiB
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<Kubuxu>
but you can do `ipfs add --raw-leaves --chunker=size-1048576` for the limit to be 1MiB
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<srpx>
hmm weird
<UM4040>
Hello, if I understand correctly atm there are 2 full IPFS implementations available - go and nodejs. And python version in progress. What about future plans, I'm interested in Erlang version, is there any plans of full implementation in Erlang?
<srpx>
got it! I think
<srpx>
thank you so much Kubuxu
<srpx>
so, just sha256sum, prepend 015512202, encode as base58 and prepend a z
<Kubuxu>
yup, first prepend is in hex
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<Kubuxu>
um4040: Erlang would be awesome, but I don't know if it is planned currently
<srpx>
let me try on code
<Kubuxu>
implementing ipfs is quite a journey
<srpx>
btw I just published the nano-sha256 lib on npm, which uses the native version of sha256 on the browser and thus has a <1kb bundle
<srpx>
the existing libs (at least all I found) use pure js implementations, but all browsers have sha256 now
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<srpx>
... and now the hex->base58 lib has 23kb.....
* srpx
sighs
<Kubuxu>
use Buffer for hex->binary and then binary->base58
<Kubuxu>
it might be still small
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<srpx>
hex->binary is simple
<srpx>
but I'm not sure there is a short way to do binary->base58 on the browser
<Kubuxu>
also you don't really have to do binary->base58
<Kubuxu>
you can use hex with `f` prefix in go-ipfs
<Kubuxu>
it will address the same object
<Kubuxu>
SrPx: ^^
<Kubuxu>
the address is the same, just the encoding is different but it shouldn't make much of a difference
<srpx>
amazing, let me try
<srpx>
worked! amazing Kubuxu! :) thank you so much
<srpx>
it is 5:48am here and you saved my night
<Kubuxu>
Hah
<Kubuxu>
It is 11am here
<Kubuxu>
3 days ago I was still up at his hour...
<Kubuxu>
I am currently trying to go back to normal sleep schedule.
<Kubuxu>
<3 thanks for being interested in go-ipfs
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<srpx>
actually thank you for making the world better
<Noxarivis[m]>
Why was IPFS created instead of supporting GnuNet?
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<aseriousgogetta>
Noxarivis[m]: why was 5,000,000 copies of bitcoin made in the past 5 years?
<aseriousgogetta>
:P
<Noxarivis[m]>
I don't know, why?
<Noxarivis[m]>
aseriousgogetta: ,
<aseriousgogetta>
is god able to make a rock so heavy that he is not able to lift it?
<aseriousgogetta>
bbiab
<Noxarivis[m]>
I don't believe in ghosts
<aseriousgogetta>
pandora's box mang
<aseriousgogetta>
paradox
<Noxarivis[m]>
aseriousgogetta: so you don't know why I suppose?
<aseriousgogetta>
no one does
<aseriousgogetta>
why do we use http instead of ipfs?!
<lgierth>
there's couple of deep differences in the approach
<Noxarivis[m]>
aseriousgogetta: because http was first.
<lgierth>
anonymity is a cornerstone of gnunet, while it's important-but-not-most-important for ipfs
<Noxarivis[m]>
If ipfs existed before http we might use it
<voker57>
Noxarivis[m]: did you actually try using/contributing to gnunet?
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<Noxarivis[m]>
No
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<Noxarivis[m]>
voker57: I didn't, why?
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<Noxarivis[m]>
voker57?
<voker57>
Noxarivis[m]: I tried and it appears to be made by aliens for aliens. still trying to find somebody who understands it
<Noxarivis[m]>
What do you mean?
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<Noxarivis[m]>
voker57: is the code bad?
<clownpriest>
but dude....it's free as in freedom
<Noxarivis[m]>
clownpriest: sounds like there is a joke behind that
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<Noxarivis[m]>
clownpriest: if so, please explain it to me. Im not aware
<clownpriest>
joke is seems like freedom isn't enough to drive design and work on an open source project
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<Noxarivis[m]>
Ok, but how does that relate to GnuNet clownpriest?
<Noxarivis[m]>
I mean its in active development
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<clownpriest>
i doubt gnunet will ever get corporate backing/attention in the same way bitcoin and ipfs will
<clownpriest>
or ethereum
<clownpriest>
there's network effects that these systems depend on, and ability to use for selfish interests usually drive these sorts of things
<clownpriest>
that's not to say something like ipfs can't be neutral and used for good
<clownpriest>
but bitcoin miners aren't burning electricity out of the goodness of their hearts, same with big corporate donors to ethereum ico/startups
<clownpriest>
ico's*
<clownpriest>
there's ways in which they support the status quo that makes them succeed, while at the same time fullfilling their particular subversive decentralization aims
<Noxarivis[m]>
Even if gnunet might have better technology?
<clownpriest>
idk enough about gnunet, haven't looked into it in a long time
<clownpriest>
just expressing general cynicism
<Noxarivis[m]>
I want to know if there are technical reasons for creating IPFS and not working on GnuNet
<Noxarivis[m]>
I know someone who says that GnuNet will succeed because its working on UDP, TCP, SMTP etc
<Noxarivis[m]>
On Bluetooth and so on
<cyberwolf[m]>
Installed ipfs on ubuntu server how to make it permanently daemon included?
<voker57>
Noxarivis[m]: nvm just kidding, I tried to use it and then found out that they just nonchalantly broke URIs in minor release https://gnunet.org/bugs/view.php?id=5103. also their GUI is weird and scary
<voker57>
re: ipfs vs gnunet, gnunet has heavy focus on anonymity and i believe it sacrifices sharing blocks between different files for security, which is contrary to philosophy of ipfs
<Noxarivis[m]>
voker57: hmm
<r0kk3rz>
voker57: oh wow, you werent kidding, weird and scary indeed
<Noxarivis[m]>
voker57: I just want to make sure I support the right site
<Noxarivis[m]>
r0kk3rz: how does it look, im not sure
<Cam-B[m]>
ipfs is used by large projects like Steem and OpenBazaar.
<quangl>
steem.it?
<Noxarivis[m]>
Ya steemit
<Cam-B[m]>
Ipfs will likely be one of the top distributed networks I think.
<Noxarivis[m]>
Yeah, I hope so
<quangl>
so ipfs works without ip layer?
<Cam-B[m]>
you on Steem Noxarivis?
<quangl>
but still has dns addressing?
<Noxarivis[m]>
> so ipfs works without ip layer?
<Noxarivis[m]>
It could yes
<Noxarivis[m]>
It's adaptive
<Noxarivis[m]>
(thanks multiaddress)
<quangl>
so can cloudflare knock u off?
<quangl>
censorship?
<Noxarivis[m]>
No
<Noxarivis[m]>
I don't think so
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<Noxarivis[m]>
At least there is lots of childporn on ipfs
<quangl>
im trying to build a forum that recently has been censored
<quangl>
dailystormer and infostormer
<Noxarivis[m]>
Great, ipfs needs apps to run over it
<quangl>
how do i get started?
<Cam-B[m]>
Wonderful good luck with your nazi stuff.
<Cam-B[m]>
download ipfs, upload site. done
<quangl>
windows version?
<quangl>
national socialism not ashkenazi slur
<Cam-B[m]>
Nazi is short for national socialism
<quangl>
rather nationalizing a nation currency to be distributed to the workers of infastructure ie workers teachers solders so they can spend on entreprenuers instead of zioniost crony banking system
<quangl>
nazi is short for national zionism the jews are laffing at the ignorant goy
<quangl>
slaves
<Cam-B[m]>
good: currency to be distributed to the workers of infastructure ie workers teachers solders so they can spend on entreprenuers instead of zioniost crony banking system
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<quangl>
exactly
<Cam-B[m]>
crazy: zioniost crony banking system
<Cam-B[m]>
nazi is short for national zionism the jews are laffing at the ignorant goy
<quangl>
thats is all national socialism is america was founding on this
<quangl>
that was the system of greenback lincoln was assissnated for
<quangl>
ww2 the bad war
<quangl>
this is like the movie the running man
<Cam-B[m]>
OMG Nazi, is short for "National Sozialist" (German)
<quangl>
then it would be naso think
<Cam-B[m]>
dont waste your time with racism. Be mad at the rich instead.
<quangl>
this is not about race
<quangl>
u fall for the jew lie
<quangl>
the mkultra mind control is thick
<Cam-B[m]>
ok. Good luck...
<quangl>
u only barely pierced the many layered onion heglian dialect
<quangl>
there are many more co intel pro agents deception
<Cam-B[m]>
on a different note, do we have IPFS over tor yet?
<Noxarivis[m]>
@Cam-B:matrix.org: yeah
<Noxarivis[m]>
There was a port to the onion protocol by the OpenBazar goys
<Noxarivis[m]>
It's not official however
<Noxarivis[m]>
But it's there
<Noxarivis[m]>
Hmm. Could be made official tho
<Cam-B[m]>
Can I as an average user get it working? do you have a link?
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<Noxarivis[m]>
Uhm, lemme see
<Cam-B[m]>
please do. I haven't found anything I understand.
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<Cam-B[m]>
I have managed to get my blog on IPFS without Tor or proxy tricks.
<Noxarivis[m]>
What else can I run on Windows by now? Haskell?
<Noxarivis[m]>
Fedora, earlyer Debian
<Noxarivis[m]>
quangl: the last windows I used was 98 SE
<Noxarivis[m]>
Then I used Ubuntu
<Noxarivis[m]>
Then years of Debian
<Noxarivis[m]>
Then Fedora recently
<Noxarivis[m]>
I'm sad and impressed
<voker57>
everything runs on windows or gets out of the market
<Noxarivis[m]>
voker57: huh? Do the Windows users even care about development?
<Noxarivis[m]>
Huh
<Kythyria[m]>
There's a lot more of them, so it's a bigger market.
<Noxarivis[m]>
Never thought about that
<voker57>
eh, corp slaves don't get asked what os do they want to code in
<Noxarivis[m]>
I'm acting like Windows is dead already so I most likely won't kill myself
<Noxarivis[m]>
A corp who force me to use Windows for development is no corp for me
<voker57>
I'd be more concerned with browsers than windows at this point
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<voker57>
you basically have to run random programs from internet on your pc all the time
<Noxarivis[m]>
Why
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<Cam-B[m]>
Noxarivis: It looks like the IPFS tor integration still requires some hacking. I'm rather noobish. Have you had it working yourself?
<Noxarivis[m]>
Browsers?
<voker57>
browser is the biggest resource hog on my computer after games
<Noxarivis[m]>
@Cam-B:matrix.org: no
<Kythyria[m]>
If you're driven to suicide by windows you really need to adjust yor priorities.
<Noxarivis[m]>
kythyria: maybe
<Noxarivis[m]>
But I feel ok by now
<Kythyria[m]>
And seeing as I'd be being paid to use Windows I'd rather do that than get fired for being a freetard.
<Noxarivis[m]>
It's not unknown that I'm mentally ill
<Noxarivis[m]>
kythyria: our police uses fedora, could work at there IT
<Kythyria[m]>
:P
<Noxarivis[m]>
I'm glad that my files at the police station are secure
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<Cam-B[m]>
Freetartd here. :)
<Cam-B[m]>
*Freetard here. :)
<Noxarivis[m]>
@Cam-B:matrix.org: yay hugs
<Cam-B[m]>
Noxarivis: lol. hugs
<Noxarivis[m]>
@Cam-B:matrix.org: also matrix usr
<Noxarivis[m]>
I respect every Linux user except Gentoo users
<Noxarivis[m]>
Gentoo users think they are better than all others
<Noxarivis[m]>
@Cam-B:matrix.org: what do you use
<Cam-B[m]>
Noxarivis: I'm still on Ubuntu
<Cam-B[m]>
AKA Noobuntu
<Noxarivis[m]>
Everyone starts with Ubuntu
<Noxarivis[m]>
Same to me
<Cam-B[m]>
Noxarivis I've been on it for 10 years now though
<Cam-B[m]>
Lifetime Noob
<Noxarivis[m]>
Oh
<Noxarivis[m]>
Well, if you like it
<Cam-B[m]>
Noxarivis: you on Fedora?
<Noxarivis[m]>
I somewhen decided to only use original distros
<Cam-B[m]>
What's better about it?
<Noxarivis[m]>
Yes
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<Noxarivis[m]>
I like RPM and Fedora is little more secure
<Noxarivis[m]>
Debian is also awesome
<Noxarivis[m]>
openSuSe is meh
<Cam-B[m]>
agreed on OpenSuse
<Noxarivis[m]>
Arch is close to Gentoo but there wiki is nice and works on most other distros
<Cam-B[m]>
the OpenSuSe OS builder is a nice gimmick.
<Noxarivis[m]>
Yep
<Noxarivis[m]>
But I used it only once
<Cam-B[m]>
I've heard arch is great.
<Noxarivis[m]>
Arch is ok if you like to tinker around
<r0kk3rz>
its an adventure to set up, but i like it
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<Cam-B[m]>
I need to tinker less and start producing more.
<Noxarivis[m]>
That's what I meant^
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<Noxarivis[m]>
Ubuntu and Co are for beginners and for people who want it to just work
<Noxarivis[m]>
Fedora is a mix between "just works" and tinker around
<r0kk3rz>
the problem is that they dont, and when they don't you're up shit creek because you havent learnt how it really works
<Noxarivis[m]>
r0kk3rz: typical Arch user ;)
<Cam-B[m]>
Good points from both
<koalalorenzo>
gentoo FTW!
<r0kk3rz>
nothing to do with arch, its just the state of linux on the desktop
<Noxarivis[m]>
Nope
<r0kk3rz>
sooner or later you need to get your hands dirty
<Kythyria[m]>
Nothing "just works" in every scenario. But some things are worse than others.
<Noxarivis[m]>
Gentoo stink :(
<Noxarivis[m]>
kythyria: agreed
<Cam-B[m]>
Gotta pick up my daughter. going afk
<Noxarivis[m]>
But Ubuntu is mostly nice
<Kythyria[m]>
eg, any distro that refuses to set a default because some people might want to set it to something else (actual argument) is going to be on the worse side.
<Noxarivis[m]>
@Cam-B:matrix.org: good luck
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<Noxarivis[m]>
kythyria: I don't want to set up anything else
<quangl>
so this way i can have 4 operating system on the same machine at once - windows ubuntu fedora suse
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<quangl>
isnt that better?
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<quangl>
im not talking about dual booting either im talking about executing programs at the same time
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<quangl>
microsoft was an operating system. but now its an enterprise service bus with a ui
<quangl>
i think the biztalk merged with the os so it will run every os that windows gets a licence for
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<quangl>
i mean microsoft gets a license for
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<quangl>
it was built from the windows azure service bus
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<quangl>
oses are just a service now
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<quangl>
if apple licenses osx or google andriod windows can run it too
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<quangl>
this isnt hyper-v either . im talking the oses running in the same active directory account
<quangl>
user rather
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<TheGuyWho>
So i had ipfs on a crappy vps with like 256 megs of ram and it was kinda working haha. Anyone know if theres anything new on the new memory use front?
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<Cam-B[m]>
I don't quite get how to make IPFS use onioncat's IP6 exclusively and I don't know how to set up a virtual machine with access to tor but no clearnet access. So close but still so far.
<Cam-B[m]>
I hope someone can turn this article into more noob friendly instructions.
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<lgierth>
Noxarivis Cam-B voker57 Kythyria: please ping me next time quangl or one of his "friends" show up. this community has a code of conduct and it's our common responsibility to make sure it's respected
<lgierth>
i just didn't pay attention to irc a few hours, i'd have intervened right away
<voker57>
what rule did they violate?
<Kythyria[m]>
One about racist blather, I guess.
<voker57>
ah right
<lgierth>
oh ffs
<voker57>
forgot about their rant
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<lgierth>
i overlooked that one while scanning only for the other nick