lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.13 is out! Please try out: https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/v0.4.13 | Also: #libp2p #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<rargulati[m]> Specifically, I see how to do a gx update $OLDHASH $NEWHASH
<rargulati[m]> but I'm not seeing how to get the newhash - think I'm missing something obvious
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<briandilley> ion: that's an acceptable answer for sure. So using IPFS as a decentralized distribution method for your centralized files makes sense.
<cipres> briandilley: what did you want to use ipfs for ?
<ion> As for incentivizing others to serve your content, the IPFS authors are working on FileCoin.
<briandilley> cipres: no plans yet, just getting to know it - playing with the tech.
<cipres> ok
<briandilley> the pub/sub stuff looks interesting - but i haven't dug into it at all yet.
<ion> One benefit of IPFS for rarely accessed files is that maybe you have two small servers in different locations and one of them is down; the address of your file stays constant independent of where it is being served.
<ion> Well, it's the same for frequently accessed files :-P
<cipres> :)
<ion> Or maybe you send the file to two friends instead of one and now they are getting chunks from each other in addition to your server as the case would be with HTTP.
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<dave___> hi, I've a question about deleting a file on IPFS. How file deletion is handled?
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<dave___> can anyone help me?
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<Fessus> dave___, what's your question?
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<dave___> hi, I've a question about deleting a file on IPFS. How file deletion is handled?
<dave___> is there a trigger which delete network stored data when the node go off or not?
<Fessus> dave___, no, files are stored permanently on nodes which have pinned them and temporarily on nodes which have accessed them. If any nodes storing the file are online it will be available, if they're not online or the file isn't stored by any nodes than it won't be available
<Fessus> If you upload a file and someone else decides to pin it then there is nothing you can do to take it down
<dave___> okay perfect, I'm interested about the deletion of file in a p2p system but there seems to be no solution
<Fessus> not without some kind of authority, either centralized or done through a smart contract running on something like Ethereum
<Fessus> even then the file still wouldn't really be deleted, it would be more like a private tracker removing a certain torrent
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<Kythyria[m]> How would the authority work?
<dave___> triggers could be work if the Network connection go off but if the power cable go off the problem persists. do you have some ideas about this problem?
<Kythyria[m]> It's not really a problem
<Kythyria[m]> It's just the nature of reality.
<Kythyria[m]> (also, how do you determine who has the authority to delete a particular chunk?)
<Fessus> essentially if you're dealing with a distributed system where users are actually in control of their computers (i.e. not some internal company thing) then the best you can do is to just remove the file from lists used to access it rather than actually removing the file from a person's computer
<Fessus> that's what I meant by an authority, a private tracker would be a centralized example
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<Kythyria[m]> And in any case IPFS is content-addressed, so you'd have to be able to convince the system that there is no legitimate reason that the same bytes could not occur independently.
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<dave___> thanks for answer guys!
<Kythyria[m]> Also, why would you want to automatically wipe the cache when the network drops?
<Kythyria[m]> That's precisely when you want a cache!
<Fessus> dave___, no problem
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<superusercode> Riot is really a pain to set up
<Reinhilde> yep
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<kpcyrd> somebody probably posted this already, but: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16481112 works flawlessly, uses ipfs for videos
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<superusercode> DTube kinda sucks on the content side right now
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<raphaelb> Can I know how many nodes seed a specific file?
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<victorbjelkholm> raphaelb: try `ipfs dht findprovs :hash`
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<raphaelb> victorbjelkholm, thanks!
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<pcardune_> @vmx missed you on the ipfs call on monday. We gave a demo of what we're building and talked a bit about data formats
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<pcardune_> what do you think about ipld/json-ld interop?
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<tarrence> Whats the simplest way to convert a UInt8Array encoded address to base58 in the browser? Does the ipfs-js library expose any api's I can use?
<tarrence> Since I guess calling `toBaseEncodedString` on a CID instance is doing that already
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<Famicoman> Anyone have an estimated count for the number of peers running ipfs?
<voker57> before connection managing was implemented, I usually had ~1300 connections, so probably smth like that
<whyrusleeping> Famicoman: somewhere north of 5k nodes
<whyrusleeping> if you count random ephemeral nodes its a bit more, if youre only interested in long lived nodes its around 3k
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<Famicoman> Awesome thanks!
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<ddev[m]> Hi everyone! I'm wondering what does "new IPFS()" in js API really do under the hood
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<vmx> pcardune_: oh cool. i need to watch the recording of the all hands then
<vmx> pcardune_: there's certainly also interested from other parties in regards to json-ld
<vmx> pcardune_: though to be honest, i'm still not 100% how this will works out, given then with ipld you can only do dags and not generic graphs
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<vmx> so i'm not sure if you'll lose some of iplds sweet spots or not (we'll see :)
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<nickareed> i'm lost on trying to get an orbitdb replicated from an ec2 instance to my local machine. is anyone able to help, or point me to a useful guide?
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