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<walle303>
because: I have a proper mirror of the english wikipedia on my todo list
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<walle303>
I think it is mirrored at the moment but I haven't given out the hash as it's not ready yet
<walle303>
Still need to generate the search index and a few other things
<walle303>
also
<walle303>
whyrusleeping: does go-ipfs remember what was published to each key after restarting now?
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<voker57>
you mean IPNS? yes
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<guenstig_werben>
i've got a question about ipfs..... you are writing: "Each network node stores only content it is interested in, and some indexing information that helps figure out who is storing what." plus advertising you dont easily forget a thing
<guenstig_werben>
but what happens if there is a rather small website and no other peer is interested in storing the data, the website goes down, then we lose content
<guenstig_werben>
or even worse: say i'm Eve. I advertise i'm generous, have a lot of space, am interested in everything. now, some other people rely on that, say "there's other people serving my large videos, thank god that i dont have to store them anymore", but i'm just pretending and in reality i cannot serve a single file
<guenstig_werben>
what now?
<gts>
great question - would like to hear this from core team
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<r0kk3rz>
this is not really any different to any cloud storage situation
<r0kk3rz>
*someone* has to host the content, ipfs makes this easy to do yourself but i imagine there will still be a place for all the datacentres around the world
<r0kk3rz>
with filecoin the provider gets penalised if they deliberately try and scam you though, so theres that
<guenstig_werben>
the impersonation of someone with evil in mind
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<r0kk3rz>
im not sure i see these things as 'issues' more limitations
<r0kk3rz>
i fail to see how you could ever solve these things at the protocol layer
<r0kk3rz>
or even want to
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<AphelionZ>
Yeah I guess it falls on the app developers and then finally... caveat emptor to some extent, no?
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<vmx>
what's a good application that uses js-ipfs that i could automate?
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<jump>
hello
<jump>
how does IPLD work with IPNS?
<guenstig_werben>
Couldn't an ipns record just point to a certain ipld "address"?
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<jump>
I was wandering about the opposite situation. Does the IPLD spec define how to link to an IPNS address?
<jump>
I'm asking because I couldn't find an example
<jump>
The IPLD spec describes linking to IPFS multihashes but does not seem to talk about IPNS
<voker57>
linking to IPNS wouldn't produce a proper DAG
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<jump>
I agree. But I can think of situations where it would still be valuable
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<jump>
Will IPLD not be extended to support non-proper DAGs?
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<jump>
If I can link through IPNS addresses, I could update files files without invalidating the multihash of my IPLD defined DAG object.
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<r0kk3rz>
well, it would no longer be a merkle dag anyway
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<jump>
It would provide cryptographic assurance of the link but not of the data
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<jump>
I would like my merkle DAG to be able to talk about data addressed via location. Because I don't wont to update my merkle DAG when the location addressed data changes.
<jump>
Actually, I wont be able to know when that data does changes. But I'm happy to continue linking to it because of the identity and reputation that IPNS can provide.
<jump>
;)
<r0kk3rz>
you can quite happily make your own datastructures on top of ipfs blocks if you want
<jump>
I agree. And I'll definitly give it a go! But my hope is that there might be an existing consensus on how this should be done.
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<jump>
It would surprise me if that work hasn't been done/discussed within the context of IPLD. And my surprise leads me to think that I'm proposing something flawed or that I'm missing something.
<jump>
(Hence why I'm asking here :)
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<r0kk3rz>
im not sure i understand the benefit of it
<r0kk3rz>
instead of ipns -> dag, you have dag -> ipns - > dag
<jump>
yes
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<jump>
That IPNS middle buffer provieds flexibility. The second DAG can be modified without disrupting the first DAG
<r0kk3rz>
but if those things are a single dag, it will only damage one part of it on update
<r0kk3rz>
depending on where the change is
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<jump>
Yes, that's true. But I may not know about that damage before I attempt to use an old/obsolete link
<r0kk3rz>
well the head will change and you will need up update IPNS to the correct head
<r0kk3rz>
which is the same problem you have with your method
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<r0kk3rz>
i guess it might be slightly more efficient with really big dags and doing changes at deep levels
<jump>
I don't wont to own the middle IPNS.
<r0kk3rz>
ah i see
<jump>
I see IPNS as a curation tool.
<jump>
(In this context)
<r0kk3rz>
then yeah i dont see why not really
<jump>
Each peer can have her own IPNS address and I wont to link together a bunch of them
<jump>
Curating a bunch of other curations.
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<jump>
Thanks for your input so far, r0kk3rz
<jump>
Actually, the IPNS link could be a fallback to an IPFS link. That would make it a merkle DAG with a soft link fallback
<jump>
(soft link -> IPNS)
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<vmx>
i'm playing around with fuse ipfs. when /ipfs and /ipns get mounted, their permission change to 111 (and to owning root). what could be wrong?
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<vmx>
is anyone running fuse ipfs? can he/she paste an ls -l of /ipfs and /ipns please?