lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: go-ipfs 0.4.13 is out! Please try out: https://dist.ipfs.io/go-ipfs/v0.4.13 | Also: #libp2p #filecoin #ipfs-dev | IPFS, the InterPlanetary FileSystem: https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs | Logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ | Forums: https://discuss.ipfs.io | Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0
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<MikeFair> Hey all, thought i'd share this slightly updated version:
<MikeFair> This one allows you to pick a local text file ; shows the text file in the browser, uploads to the local browser IPFS node ; and spits out the ipfs.io URL for the file
<MikeFair> It also still let's you type whatever in the textarea and takes in the "xdr" query parameter
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<AphelionZ> Can somebody explain how the passing-private-key-via-query-string thing works?
<AphelionZ> I noticed peerpad doing it with it's snapshots
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<tarrence> Hi, I'm having some issues with ipfs and wondering if someone might be able to help
<tarrence> I'm running a go-ipfs node locally which is serving some files and spawning a browser js-ipfs node. When I try get files from the local go-ipfs node from the browser js-ipfs node the request hangs indefinitely
<tarrence> If I load the content through the ipfs.io gateway, it is able to resolve the content and then the browser js-ipfs node is able to too
<AphelionZ> tarrence: right now auto-discovery is iffy so you need to do two things
<AphelionZ> 1. Enable websockets on your go-node
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<AphelionZ> 2. Manually connect the nodes via either swarm or bootstrap config
<AphelionZ> Lemme find the example
<AphelionZ> Also my blog post: http://mrh.io/2018-01-24-pushing-limits-ipfs-orbitdb/ but that also includes orbit which you may/ may not want
<tarrence> AphelionZ: Awesome thanks a lot!
<deltab> AphelionZ: scripts loaded by a page can read the url
<deltab> using window.location
<AphelionZ> Ah ok
<AphelionZ> It's not like... a built in gateway feature
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<tarrence> How does ipfs pubsub compare to ethereums whisper?
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<MikeFair> AphelionZ!! Hey you still there?
<MikeFair> I saw you asking about passing a private key via query string; or you asking specifically about how to get data from a query string in javascript? Or how to securely pass information with an observer?
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<aidalgol> IPFS is a lie! It should be called *Intra*-Planetary FileSystem.
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<MikeFair> aidalgol, you mean until we actually exchange something with another planet?
<Aranjedeath> won't be intraplanetary for long
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<aidalgol> I was just being silly.
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<EnricoFasoli[m]> should have put an IPFS node on that tesla
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<geert__> Anyone know any interesting ipfs nodes to explore?
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<EnricoFasoli[m]> geert__: it's an app, not a node, but check this out https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmYT9EzvQY8zwtxQxUhPcphSGR4XtTRkT4MnXmQKPFamQ7
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<geert__> EnricoFasoli[m]: Thanks :) Cool! Any other nodes or apps you know of?
<EnricoFasoli[m]> geert__: https://github.com/ipfs/awesome-ipfs
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<geert__> EnricoFasoli[m]: Ah cool, thx!
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<cipres> the badgerds datastore is just so much faster !
<cipres> for something like wikipedia you gotta use this
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<lgierth> yeah for the cdn.media.ccc.de (5.4T) it's also the best option
<cipres> 5.4T!
<cipres> hi lgierth
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<cipres> i was wondering if there is a way to host multiple 'repositories' inside an ipfs daemon
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<cipres> for example have multiple datastores ? inside a node ?
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<whyrusleeping> cipres: how do you want that?
<whyrusleeping> the datastore setup is really flexible
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<cipres> whyrusleeping: i'm working on something where i'd like to give each user an 'isolated' access (with storage limit) to his own ipfs space
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<whyrusleeping> hrm...
<whyrusleeping> well that might be difficult then
<cipres> having a deamon 'per-user' is of course not an option
<cipres> i'm thinking of just tracking the hashes
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<cipres> and just have one daemon
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<victorbjelkholm> cipres: brainstorming here, but what about having a daemon per user, and that daemon is just allowed to connect to one "master" daemon, which listens for the other daemons adding files, and pins them
<cipres> victorbjelkholm: that's a good idea. but what about memory usage ?
<victorbjelkholm> cipres: I think the biggest issue with memory is the number of peers a daemon has to be connected to (whyrusleeping please correct me if I'm wrong), so if the user-daemon is only allowed one connection (to the master daemon), probably not a problem
<cipres> victorbjelkholm: i'm looking at memory usage of a 0 peers daemon right now and you're right it's very low
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<cipres> that would be a really cool system ..
<cipres> victorbjelkholm: thanks for the idea i like it ;)
<victorbjelkholm> yeah, might work, keep in mind, quick idea that I just put out there, comes with no warranties :)
<cipres> even better :)
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<cipres> victorbjelkholm: disabling the HTTP gateway on the user-daemon could save some resources also ?
<victorbjelkholm> hm, not sure it uses a lot of resources if it's not getting requests, but better safe than sorry
<jared4dataroads> lgierth: looks like we're on action items for weekly call outreach. Is there an existing Issue to comment on?
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<Mr0grog> Anyone I'm supposed to tag or anything on the all-hands meeting notes PR?
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<victorbjelkholm> Mr0grog: just let me upload the recording and we'll include the link there
<Mr0grog_> Great
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<Liono> Is it normal for IPFS daemon to be connected to +700 peers?
<whyrusleeping> Liono: yeah, thats normal
<whyrusleeping> It can be scaled back
<whyrusleeping> and moving forward, we will likely scale the default settings down a good deal too
<Liono> Thanks
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<Mr0grog> whyrusleeping: would you adjust that with the `ConnMgr.HighWater` setting here? https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/docs/config.md#connmgr
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<whyrusleeping> Mr0grog: yeah, you could adjust both the highwater and lowwater down
<whyrusleeping> ipfs tries to keep it between the two
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<Mr0grog> perfect
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<pcardune> Is this the right place to talk about IPLD?
<Icefoz> pcardune: Yep.
<pcardune> Cool. Will come back when i have something interesting to talk about :)
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<pcardune> vmx: a former summer intern of mine is interested in GraphQL + IPLD. I sent him some links to resources and told him to ask questions here.
<vmx> pcardune: cool
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<MikeFair> Forgive me for being lazy and reading the source, but is writing code to compute the CID for a single block complicated? I'm thinking about rewriting it in python (though I do have a couple work arounds)
<MikeFair> I only need it to check that data received matches the purported CID
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<whyrusleeping> MikeFair: for a single block? no
<whyrusleeping> its just hashing
<whyrusleeping> and then putting together some codec numbers
<whyrusleeping> and encoding into base58 or hex or b32 or $MULTIBASE
<AphelionZ> MikeFair:
<AphelionZ> > 10:13 PM <MikeFair> I saw you asking about passing a private key via query string; or you asking specifically about how to get data from a query string in javascript? Or how to securely pass information with an observer?
<AphelionZ> The latter
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<MikeFair> AphelionZ, there's a few techniques, some involve each side inventing a random number, then raising some well known number (oftentimes called 'e') to the power of that random number; then they exchange those
<AphelionZ> Interesting
<MikeFair> Then I forget the exact math operations, but it has to do with the fact that exponent values multiplied by each other are the same as adding the two power together
<MikeFair> Since you know your side, you can derive their side
<MikeFair> dammit; now I'm going to have to look it up all over again :)
<whyrusleeping> what, like a diffie hellman exchange?
<MikeFair> exactly
<MikeFair> AphelionZ, You can also do things like encrypt things with your own private key, then encrypt with their public key (this would be using a different keypair then the one you're attempting to communicate)
<MikeFair> Only those with the target's secret key can decrypt the outer layer; and only your public key can decypt the inenr layer
<MikeFair> This means that only the intended recipient can read it, and they can prove the message came from you
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<MikeFair> The seucrity always boils down to sharing a secret with each other first; then you use that secret to encrypt other stuff
<gjfjdgfj345> hiho how does ipfs prevents id-hacking? if a user is not accepted by other peers if the given public key is not compatible with the id, how is it than prevented that someone just uses a proxynode (eg friend) which ignores that rule and will just plain publish the messages even if the public-key is not compatible with the userid?
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<MikeFair> whyrusleeping, The multibase part is what has me troubled
<MikeFair> whyrusleeping, I'm used to seeing the Qm... version of the CID
<whyrusleeping> MikeFair: thats CIDv0
<whyrusleeping> we're moving away from that, as it doesnt quite have the flexibility we need moving forward
<whyrusleeping> its still supported
<whyrusleeping> but the defaults in the future won't be Qm
<MikeFair> But from what I understand, that's "changeable" especially with CIDv1
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<MikeFair> Right, you might recall I'm working on a python based HTTP CID block cache
<MikeFair> This "dimwits" as I've nicknamed them will be able to trade CIDs around and act as a block store for real IPFS daemons
<MikeFair> but it's not secure in anyway; so one of the assumed behaviors is "always validate the CID you just received matches its address"
<whyrusleeping> okay
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<MikeFair> It's a simple test where "good nodes" won't take updates to CIDs they've already got, and will confirm the CIDs they are storing are "proper" before storing them
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<MikeFair> But I'm thinking I'll need to implement the multibase spec to do that properly
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<MikeFair> I have to unpack the CID I was given, hash the block, use the algo identified in the multihash, then reencode using the base supplied
<MikeFair> Or am I overcomplicating it a bit, and my nodes can use whatever internal CID address they want
<MikeFair> It's dawning on me that the "Hash" is the block address/identifier; and the CID is simply a way to describe that numeric address
<MikeFair> Hmm, but if the algorithm for hashing the contents of a blcok is maleable; then would that give the same block multiple addresses?
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<ChrisMatthieu> Here's a video of Roy walking me through the latest Computes Alpha AI demo (powered by IPFS)! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNJclSNGloQ
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<dryajov> Mr0grog:
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* pjz blinks.
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<srecio> i was playing around with orbit chat and im really curious, how does js-libp2p overcome the same-origin policy imposed by the browser?
<lgierth> srecio: in what regard?
<srecio> well if all of the code is running in my browser, then how can I connect directly with peers without the connecting to them through the server which originally delivered the html/js?
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<lgierth> webrtc
<srecio> interesting
<srecio> perhaps this is a question for webrtc then
<srecio> curious how it gets around this issue
<lgierth> well you don't really load content in the sense of the DOM from the webrtc peers
<lgierth> you merely get a bidirectional data stream between your own browser tab and the peer's browser tab
<lgierth> so same-origin policy doesn't really apply to it i think
<srecio> ah ok so because the data stream is connecting via js then the same origin policy doesnt apply?
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<lgierth> yeah
<lgierth> it's not even http
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<srecio> oh thats pretty cool
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<srecio> so without webrtc, libp2p couldn't function in the browser?
<lgierth> it can still connect to websockets nodes, and then relay other connections over these websockets connections
<lgierth> but immediate browser-to-browser p2p connections require webrtc
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<srecio> cool stuff
<srecio> thanks @lgierth
<srecio> gonna keep digging
<srecio> i may be back
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<SamYaple> im not sure if thats a threat
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<pjz> gah, that'll teach me to dev on the main branch
<pjz> pastebits is back up
<pjz> *sigh*
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