<fiatjaf>
can I get my peer id from ipfs? is it always the same?
<fiatjaf>
can I use its private key it to sign stuff and prove I'm always myself?
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I want to use it to sign stuff for a login system
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<fiatjaf>
(for a website only ipfs users can enter)
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<fiatjaf>
I keep getting a gigantic list of matrix users leaving and joining in this channel. is that ok?
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<[itchyjunk]>
fiatjaf, happens in all channels they are in
<[itchyjunk]>
it's matrix servers screwing up
<fiatjaf>
[itchyjunk]: I'm worried no one will read the messages I sent before the big matrix spam
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<[itchyjunk]>
ahh, that is a resonable worry it join/part message is shown for a client
<[itchyjunk]>
for example, the last message it scrolled up to was you asking if you should worry about it :D
<[itchyjunk]>
you should just reask the question, i don't think anyone will hold it against you in this case
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<fiatjaf>
I'll do it.
<fiatjaf>
can I get my peer id from ipfs? is it always the same?
<fiatjaf>
can I use its private key it to sign stuff and prove I'm always myself?
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<fiatjaf>
I want to use it to sign stuff for a login system (for a website only ipfs users can enter)
<Swedneck>
god damnit the bridge shat itself again
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<MikeFair>
fiatjaf: I might be mistaken but I think your IPFS peer id is always the same within the same repo
<fiatjaf>
MikeFair, I've just checked, it is hardcoded on ~/.ipfs/config
<MikeFair>
fiatjaf: I let my peer node be my peer node and leave its key alone and add more keys
<fiatjaf>
the private key is there too
<MikeFair>
fiatjaf: you can also run ipfs id t oget it
<fiatjaf>
MikeFair, how can I do that?
<fiatjaf>
MikeFair, but I want a private key
<MikeFair>
`ipfs id`
<MikeFair>
oh yeah; that's not gettable via the cli from what I can see
<MikeFair>
ther eis the stuff in ipfs key
<MikeFair>
Like I said before; I don't overlap my ipfs daemon key with other uses (like logins)
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<MikeFair>
(1) You can't use it in multiple places; (2) if you ever lose the machine/delete and recreate the repo, the key is gone (unless you explicitly restore it)
<MikeFair>
I think of the daemon as "the daemon" and other keys as other things
<MikeFair>
(err the daemon key)
<fiatjaf>
MikeFair, that's good
<MikeFair>
But _can you_; yes you can
<fiatjaf>
I think `ipfs key` will do the work, then. I'll just generate a new specific key there for my service.
<MikeFair>
exactly; I generate a new one for each domain's ipns address
<MikeFair>
what are you doing for "services"?
* MikeFair
is curious because he's been investigating stuff like REST over PubSub.
<fiatjaf>
I was thinking about doing a website for organizing the stuff you have on your node and sharing it, like an ipfshub.
<fiatjaf>
but I don't know if this is silly.
<fiatjaf>
(very modest idea, I know)
<MikeFair>
Not necessarily silly or modest
<fiatjaf>
just bad?
<MikeFair>
One thing that I know I'd find pretty useful is something like a tool to help me get my node to ipfs pin stuff from other websites javascripts
<kolonka[m]>
half way to brilliance
<MikeFair>
well I'm not clear on exactly what your vision is; but I'm thinking more like kolonka[m]; it's got the seeds of something really useful
<fiatjaf>
MikeFair, what? what would you want from other websites javascripts?
<fiatjaf>
variables?
<MikeFair>
decentralized web means other browser loading up JS files from your website anywhere
<MikeFair>
if you're attempting to offer some kind of service where you store/act on data on their behalf; you need to pin the IPFS address after it gets created
<MikeFair>
browsers are great at creating new CIDs on the spot; but they aren't great at keeping them
<MikeFair>
For example; think of "interplanetary pastebin"
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<MikeFair>
You hit a URL that gets you the CID of the pastebin's web page; it's got JS code; you post something
<MikeFair>
in that moment, it only exists i nthe repo on the local browser
<fiatjaf>
right
<MikeFair>
You need/want to annouce that CID to something else that will pin it so once you close your browser others can still get it
<fiatjaf>
why can't you pin it yourself?
<MikeFair>
At the same time you don't anything/anyone to be able to pin anything
<MikeFair>
fiatjaf: get the CID from the browser instance to an IPFS daemon
<fiatjaf>
that's something the interplanetary pastebin should implement for you
<MikeFair>
i'm implementing the IP Pastebin
<MikeFair>
offering it
<fiatjaf>
it should either check for the presence of window.ipfs (if you're using that browser extension)
<MikeFair>
so we could use something like what you're describing to remotely authenticate to our nodes to pin it
<fiatjaf>
or show the cid so you copy it from the screen and paste in your command line
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<fiatjaf>
right, I think I get it
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<MikeFair>
At least I think we could; like I said I wasn't sure what you were picturing
<fiatjaf>
I don't think that is possible with the current node implementation
<MikeFair>
fiatjaf: if you're offering the decentralized pastebin page; you don't want to make people copy and paste it to their command lines
<MikeFair>
This is where pubsub and services comes in
<fiatjaf>
but it certainly fits in what I'm thiking
<fiatjaf>
right, I get it
<fiatjaf>
pubsub
<fiatjaf>
(actually, this is still confusing, but now I think I get it -- no it's not anywhere near what I was thinking about)
<MikeFair>
If there was a PubSub channel that a service subbed to that implemented the pinning service (identified by IPNS Key)
<MikeFair>
and the browser sent a message requesting, signed with the user's pKey; then it could know whether or not to accept the request
<MikeFair>
this is different than hitting the daemon's API because you don't necessarily know the dameon's address
<MikeFair>
But your javascript code could have the IPNS channel key hardcoded in (or resolve it from a dns name)
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<fiatjaf>
MikeFair, how do you publish IPNS stuff using different keys (generated by `ipfs key gen`)?
<fiatjaf>
the `ipfs.key` API doesn't mention anything about using these keys to publish to IPNS, and the `ipfs.name` API tells it will always use the peer id as the key, then it tells us to look at the ipfs.key API for more information on using different keys.
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<whyrusleeping>
*sigh*
<whyrusleeping>
spammers are annoying
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<[itchyjunk]>
Can't be helped i guess
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* pjz
agrees
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<mikeal>
is there a more efficient way to do bulk writes to mfs than just the write() API?
<josiah[m]>
How does filecoin work? Is it a straightforward model where storage providers get paid a cut off the revenue from people paying for storage space?
<mikeal>
the writes are in all kinds of random locations in a deep filesystem, so I can't prepare a directory and then pin it
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<dcntrlzdxduck>
hello
<dcntrlzdxduck>
i need help reinstalling on ubuntu
<lemmi>
this already a weird thing to say on linux, even more with programs written in go :)
<dcntrlzdxduck_>
oh
<Alpha64>
compile it
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<lemmi>
dcntrlzdxduck so what's the issue?
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<darkdrgn2k[m]>
can you generate a specific key pair for an ipns publish
<darkdrgn2k[m]>
or is it one ipns publish per node
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<fiatjaf>
if I call `ipfs add --nocopy` and later move the files from where they were, what happens?
<fiatjaf>
darkdrgn2k[m], you can generate infinite key pairs, I think, then call `ipfs name publish --key=<key name>`, see `ipfs name publish --help`
<darkdrgn2k[m]>
awsome thanks
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<darkdrgn2k[m]>
fiatjaf: from my experiance you get an error in teh console :P
<darkdrgn2k[m]>
anyway to export the key?
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<TrUsT_n1>
If you create a document and hash it. Then make modifications to it and hash it again. Is there anyway to tie the two hashes together for versioning?
<TrUsT_n1>
by hashing I mean adding to ipfs.
<fiatjaf>
darkdrgn2k[m]: I've never tried that, but will soon. what is the error?
<darkdrgn2k[m]>
i mean if you remove a nocopy file..
<darkdrgn2k[m]>
just learend that export you cant but the file is located in ~/.ipfs/keystore
<fiatjaf>
TrUsT_n1, you can create a folder-like structure (or any other kind of structured object, but folder-like structures are more common) using mfs (`ipfs files mkdir`, `ipfs files cp` etc.) or by patching objects directry with `ipfs object patch add-link`, for example.
<fiatjaf>
darkdrgn2k[m], from the js-ipfs api you can export
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<darkdrgn2k[m]>
is the txt key dnslink or _dnslink
<TrUsT_n1>
fiatjaf: I've been using files and I love it. I have not used object patch add-link. I will need to look into that one. Thanks for guiding my next leg of study.
<krone>
Hey all. sha2-256 is the default hashing algo, right? Why does `ipfs add --hash=sha2-256 <file>` produce a different hash than without `--hash` specified?
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<fiatjaf>
krone: I would guess the answer is on "Implies CIDv1"
<krone>
fiatjaf: oh man that sounds likely
<fiatjaf>
krone: however I've just tested here and the hash is the same
<fiatjaf>
what's you ipfs version?
<krone>
0.4.13
<fiatjaf>
mine is 0.4.15
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<krone>
Yes I'm a bit out of date here. is the --hash=sha2-256 result different still than without --hash?
<fiatjaf>
krone: no, here it is the same.
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<krone>
Testing on js-ipfs shows that the hash is the same as the default output before the toV1 cast
<krone>
Okay, great. Well that's more encouragement to update my version. Thanks for the idea, I think it is the CIDv1 cast :)
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