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<darkdrgn2k[m]> so im trying to use FILESTORE running
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> `~/ipfs/ipfs add --nocopy --raw-leaves file`
<darkdrgn2k[m]> however it seems the ~/.ipfs folder keeps growing
<darkdrgn2k[m]> from what i understand it SHOULDN'T grow, am i doing sometihng wrong
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<jamiew> darkdrgn2k[m]: this might be relevant, looks like an open issue on same function
<darkdrgn2k[m]> just figured it out
<jamiew> $HOME dir-related? also fwiw `--nocopy` says `--raw-leaves` is implied
<darkdrgn2k[m]> you need to RESTART the ipfs daemon after tunrning on filestore
<jamiew> 👍
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yes all that was correct just didnt restart the daemon
<darkdrgn2k[m]> also what ports do i need to forwrd to bypass nat
<jamiew> swarm address is 4001 but ymmv if you want gateway or API also
<jamiew> which are 8080 and 5001 by default (and sensitive so wouldn't just open up)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> just care about swarm
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i hear there are to many nodes behind nat causing issues
<jamiew> that's both tcp & udp IIRC
<jamiew> for the swarm port I mena
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<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: hrm... thats a bit weird, we should error out if the user tries to use --nocopy and the filestore isnt actually enabled
<darkdrgn2k[m]> it did if i didnt enable it with the command
<darkdrgn2k[m]> then i ran the command and no error but didnt work
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i looked at ipfs filesore ls gave me an error
<darkdrgn2k[m]> btw if anyone is insterested
<darkdrgn2k[m]> http://node2.e-mesh.net/hls/stream.html?gw=https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs
<darkdrgn2k[m]> IPFS live stream :)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> if only ipns workd :'(
<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: whoa, sweet
<whyrusleeping> have you started playing with the ipns over pubsub stuff yet?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yeh a bit
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i need to digg deeper but for the confrence that we want to live stream it prob not a good idea
<whyrusleeping> why not?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> cause the other gateways wont have it enabled
<darkdrgn2k[m]> soooooo it will be way to slow
<whyrusleeping> which other gateways?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> any of them :P
<whyrusleeping> well enabling the pubsub ipns stuff doesnt prevent anything else from working
<darkdrgn2k[m]> anyway to help propegate an ipfs add faster to a gateway?
<whyrusleeping> manually connect your node to the gateway in question
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yes but ipns pulls from no-enabled gateways will be way to slow
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (2-3 mins when we need to update ever 15-30 seconds)
<whyrusleeping> yeah..
<darkdrgn2k[m]> you mean the node that does the ipfs add?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> using bootstrap?
<whyrusleeping> yeah, using bootstrap of `ipfs swarm connect <gateway multiaddr>`
<whyrusleeping> the delay there is the gateway node being able to find and connect to the node doing the add
<darkdrgn2k[m]> how would i connect it to say ipfs.io since its a cluster
<darkdrgn2k[m]> id have to attach it to ever ip individually?
<whyrusleeping> you should only need to connect to one of them generally
<whyrusleeping> it usually figures things out from there
<whyrusleeping> the gateways used to expose a readonly api
<whyrusleeping> at ipfs.io/api/v0/...
<whyrusleeping> so you could easily get the addresses for the gateway nodes
<whyrusleeping> but its not working anymore...
* whyrusleeping grumbles
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i noticed the cluster was acting up a bit
<whyrusleeping> they've been making some changes to it lately
<whyrusleeping> some things have been a bit weird
<whyrusleeping> and lgierth is now out for a couple more weeks
<darkdrgn2k[m]> `ipfs swarm connect /ip4/209.94.78.78/tcp/4001` doesnt work :(
<whyrusleeping> you would need the peer ID too
<darkdrgn2k[m]> how do you get the remote peer id then
<whyrusleeping> i honestly don't know anymore
<whyrusleeping> it used to be 'https://ipfs.io/api/v0/id'
<darkdrgn2k[m]> hah its ok
<whyrusleeping> kyledrake: any idea why the routes changed?
<whyrusleeping> or am i imagining things?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> to bad the browser plugin doesnt do ajax postbacks properly..
<darkdrgn2k[m]> if it did we could run it through the plugin :P
<whyrusleeping> file an issue, if its reasonable to get done then lidel should be able to jam it out pretty quick
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i forgot who i was talking to.. mat ??? when he visited toronto for rightscon
<whyrusleeping> tall red bearded guy?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> oh gosh i dont remember... haha
<darkdrgn2k[m]> to many new people in a week that week :( and beer they all blend together!
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<whyrusleeping> haha
<darkdrgn2k[m]> you'd think id know. i gate him a lift to the hotel
<darkdrgn2k[m]> lol
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<HeavyMetal[m]> darkdrgn2k: looking back at history it was Matt Z from IPFS
<darkdrgn2k[m]> hah i was right.. it was matt :)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> :( had to switch gateways to get the stream going again
<darkdrgn2k[m]> looking at the download times.... 15 seconds...8 secnons.. 13 seconds... 14 seconds..
<darkdrgn2k[m]> dont think we can run it at 15 seconds cunks
<HeavyMetal[m]> :(
<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: please do at least *try* it with the pubsub stuff
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i will
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i just have to start up a gateway .
<HeavyMetal[m]> I did have pubsub working and that needs at least 50s chunks
<HeavyMetal[m]> but then it depends on your peers
<whyrusleeping> 50s chunks?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> HeavyMetal: pubsub name needs to be running on gateway AND client for it to work
<darkdrgn2k[m]> so you where actaully running it in DHT
<darkdrgn2k[m]> whyrusleeping: the stream cuts up the video into small chunks and adds them to ipfs
<darkdrgn2k[m]> the smaller chunks the more often it needs to pull a new one
<whyrusleeping> ah, gotcha
<darkdrgn2k[m]> but we need to also push the chunk into ipfs fast enough before the next one is avaialbe
<HeavyMetal[m]> but I wonder if ipfs.io gateway have pubsub enabled
<darkdrgn2k[m]> pubsub @ 2 mins does not work
<darkdrgn2k[m]> HeavyMetal: it does not
<HeavyMetal[m]> ah
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<whyrusleeping> one sec, i'm swapping my gateway over to use pubsub
<darkdrgn2k[m]> whats the line again?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> --enable-namesys-pubsub ?
<whyrusleeping> yep
<HeavyMetal[m]> ipfs daemon --enable-namesys-pubsub
<HeavyMetal[m]> mhm
<darkdrgn2k[m]> then ipfs name publish $h
<darkdrgn2k[m]> how do ytou add a max timeout
<darkdrgn2k[m]> real 0m44.152s
<HeavyMetal[m]> no longer 2 minutes?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> may have been wrong
<darkdrgn2k[m]> 1 sec
<darkdrgn2k[m]> but with it enabled it posts it with both pubsub and dht still
<whyrusleeping> keep refreshing that page
<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: ipfs name publish --timeout=1s <value>
<HeavyMetal[m]> oh nice
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<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: yeah... thats just the client being angry its timing out requests
<whyrusleeping> but thats expected behaviour
<whyrusleeping> i'll make an issue to make that not ugly as hell
<darkdrgn2k[m]> that seems to work now
<darkdrgn2k[m]> its fine lets see if it works though
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ok lets see if this works in the stream :P
<whyrusleeping> :D
<darkdrgn2k[m]> http://node2.e-mesh.net/hls2/stream.html?gw=https://hardbin.com/ipfs
<whyrusleeping> thats my dinky little node with less than 1GB of ram, so don't be too mean to it
<whyrusleeping> if things work, we can probably just turn that on on the main gateways
<whyrusleeping> and if it breaks, we fix it
<darkdrgn2k[m]> sob
<darkdrgn2k[m]> "Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at http://mars.i.ipfs.team:8080/ipns/QmTVrsREgGQ7QN5wGhDJshAmPXPV4ZVcw7XQ9X7wDSwEWc. (Reason: CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ missing)."
<darkdrgn2k[m]> thats why mine is a php :S
<darkdrgn2k[m]> hold on.. ihave an idae
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> pure ipfs solution :)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> but i think i need to run it at 30s min :/
<HeavyMetal[m]> oh no need for IPNS?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> this is ipns
<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: whats the bottleneck requiring it to be at 30s?
<whyrusleeping> is it chunk transfer speed?
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> can you see that on irc?
<whyrusleeping> yeah
<whyrusleeping> it gives me an image link
<whyrusleeping> okay, so that looks like an issue with chunk transfer speed
<darkdrgn2k[m]> so each chunk right now is 20 seconds
<whyrusleeping> thats likely just because that node is super overloaded
<whyrusleeping> (thats the first bootstrap node, one of the most connected to nodes in the entire network)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> if the time it takes to grab the chunks is > then chunk size and buffer runs out you get buffering
<darkdrgn2k[m]> blue is waiting green is downloading
<darkdrgn2k[m]> and finding them to
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (it may be cause im behind a nat)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i forwarded 4001 but i dot know if that will help
<darkdrgn2k[m]> the bigger the chunk the more room we have for issues
<darkdrgn2k[m]> but the more delayed the video is too
<HeavyMetal[m]> so guess 30s is the sweet spot?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> but the bigger then downlaod is
<darkdrgn2k[m]> and now ipns is not pushing new content
<kyledrake> @whyrusleeping This works: curl https://ipfs.io/api/v0/version
<HeavyMetal[m]> seems like once it find where the block is it downloads fine. so just the time waiting to find the block
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yeh
<darkdrgn2k[m]> and now ipns is not updating
<darkdrgn2k[m]> 2 lines should be added at teh end ever 20 seconds
<darkdrgn2k[m]> they are not
<HeavyMetal[m]> :C
<darkdrgn2k[m]> http://node2.e-mesh.net/test.php <- thats what the live file was
<HeavyMetal[m]> I remember ipfs.io gateway had the same issue a while ago
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yeh they are messing with them apperntly
<HeavyMetal[m]> ah
<HeavyMetal[m]> there it goes :D
<HeavyMetal[m]> updated
<darkdrgn2k[m]> and were back
<darkdrgn2k[m]> with a HUGE buffer :P
<darkdrgn2k[m]> so thats pritty cool of HLS/vidoe.js
<HeavyMetal[m]> at least won't miss content lol
<darkdrgn2k[m]> but that was a good 2 mins or so
<darkdrgn2k[m]> whyrusleeping: if you request content from a gateway and then abandone the request, will the gateway still cache the content
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ie curl --max-time 1 https://ipfs.io/ipfs/HASH
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> (and ipns is stalled gain)
<HeavyMetal[m]> mhm :/
<kyledrake> https://ipfs.io/api/v0/id should just be relayed to go-ipfs, unless there was some custom route for it in nginx at some point.
<darkdrgn2k[m]> id gives 404 page not found but version works
<darkdrgn2k[m]> HeavyMetal: i wonder if we spam a bunch of internet connected ipfs servers.. if the link will go up
<darkdrgn2k[m]> like get a buch of servers and add the content to them all
<HeavyMetal[m]> which link?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ipfs content
<darkdrgn2k[m]> will ipfs be able to find the content faster
<HeavyMetal[m]> I wonder too
<darkdrgn2k[m]> right now it may be that im running it from a natted connection
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> ok i need to sleep
<darkdrgn2k[m]> emjoy the feed
<HeavyMetal[m]> was it 15 before just now?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> just restarted it with 30 second chunks
<darkdrgn2k[m]> 20
<HeavyMetal[m]> ah
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> which was almost good
<HeavyMetal[m]> plays fine though until ipns stopped
<darkdrgn2k[m]> no it had issues grabbing some cunks
<HeavyMetal[m]> ah
<darkdrgn2k[m]> if you run f12 and watch the funks on the right it will show you low long it took
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> thas 25 seconds
<HeavyMetal[m]> mm
<darkdrgn2k[m]> "/ip4/76.10.166.91/tcp/1027/ipfs/QmTVrsREgGQ7QN5wGhDJshAmPXPV4ZVcw7XQ9X7wDSwEWc"
<darkdrgn2k[m]> now sure why it says 1027
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ok im really out ow
<darkdrgn2k[m]> nite all
<HeavyMetal[m]> alright night
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<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: back, computer decided it really wanted to update
<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: if you abandon a request, the node will cache anything it has already fetched for a little while
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<HeavyMetal[m]> whyrusleeping: if the request is for a 10MB file and then it abandon the request after 1MB will it still cache the whole 10MB or just 1MB?
<whyrusleeping> just 1MB
<HeavyMetal[m]> I see
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<JCaesar> There is a minimum, though… was that 1MB?
<JCaesar> (well, depends on how the file was added, but the default…)
<isanisan> Hi everybody! I've started keeping basically all of my non-sensitive data in my local IPFS node, but I now have a problem: I can't find a way to backup the data because doing `ipfs pin add` on another machine is really, really slow. I've been trying to solve this problem for a while now and am not sure what to do.
<isanisan> So, my first question is: why is it slow? I want to copy, like 100GB of data, but data is only moving a at few KB per *minute*. How can I debug this?
<isanisan> Second question is: I'd really like to just bypass bitswap and just manually upload a set of blocks from one node to another. Is there an easy way to do this?
<whyrusleeping> isanisan: just to check, youre using ipfs 0.4.15 on both nodes, right?
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<JCaesar> I don't know how to debug the whole thing, but one way to make the process a tiny bit less painful is to ipfs files cp the object first and then get it without occupying the global pin lock via ipfs refs -r
<isanisan> I am not! I have been running 0.4.13 on both nodes, but I'm currently installing 0.4.15 on my laptop (I'm using nix, so it's building).
<isanisan> I was just reading the changelogs for 0.4.{14,15} and didn't see anything that seemed relevant to this, and I've been having this problem since before 0.4.14 was released.
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<isanisan> Here's a related question: is it possible to just manually syncronize blocks from ~/.ipfs with rsync or something?
<isanisan> My intuition tells me that this is probably not possible, but if it was, it would be a really easy solution to this problem.
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<whyrusleeping> isanisan: you can do that, yeah
<whyrusleeping> just rysync the ~/.ipfs/blocks/ directory over
<whyrusleeping> and it should work fine
<whyrusleeping> just make sure the daemons arent running while you do that
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<isanisan> Really?? Sick! Thank you so much! I'm gonna try this now.
<whyrusleeping> :)
<whyrusleeping> my TODO list has two main items on it right now:
<whyrusleeping> 1) Fix network connectivity so IPNS sucks less
<whyrusleeping> 2) Make bitswap faster
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<Rusty78> Quick question, I did some tests on multiple VPS servers and it seems that ipfs.io/ipfs/*multihash* is taking forever to find my files where earlier it took only a few seconds
<Rusty78> Anyone else facing this issue? The other gateways are seemingly giving me the same issues, was there a big chance to the gateways recently?
<whyrusleeping> there was, yeah
<whyrusleeping> i don't know the details
<whyrusleeping> but kyledrake and lgierth were switching a bunch of stuff around
<Rusty78> whyrusleeping: Is it an open issue? I'm just wondering because I have a project built on IPFS and it worked really smoothly with fast propagation but kinda sucks without it :p
<Rusty78> I can definitely wait if it's actively being looked at, just wondering if this is high on the list for issues to fix
<whyrusleeping> Rusty78: you could definitely file an issue on ipfs/infrastructure
<whyrusleeping> any reports of 'hey this doesnt work anymore' is good IMO
<Rusty78> whyrusleeping: Will do, ty
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> lidel`: Re companion. Can you clearify how it works. Does it just redirect all requests to a gatway or use a local gatway or what? Also is there any logging to actualy see what its doing (and not guess) When we where trying to figure out how to use out live stream through the plugin i twas very difficult to do so as we didnt know what was being redirected what was not.
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> also is there anyway to turn OFF the plguing, at times it would be good to turn it off and doesnt seem to be able to whout uninstalling it
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<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], in short browser extension looks at all HTTP requests made by the browser and if URL path is a valid IPFS path (with correct CID) then it replaces such request to a request to local (external) gateway (usually users run go-ipfs on localhost)
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<lidel> I think there is some logging in Browser Console, in Firefox you can open it via ctrl+shift+j or just click "Debug" next to extension in `about:debugging` screen
<darkdrgn2k[m]> So what's embedded mode then
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<lidel> embedded node is browserified js-ipfs running in the background page of the extension
<lidel> it is mostly experimental, as it does not provide http gateway nor current Webextension APIs enable us to inject responses via custom protocol (this is being developed tho)
<lidel> for now if you pick embedded node you will use public http gateway (ipfs.io) + you will get window.ipfs object provided by embedded js-ipfs node (so it is kind of a hybrid approach for now)
<lidel> usually people run go-ifps on localhost as 'external' node, that way you get the most of the ecosystem
<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], we dont have explicit 'off' button yet (but it is being discussed here: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/issues/491), however you can disable redirect to custom gateway via button i browser action menu ("Switch to Public Gateway")
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ok thanks for clarifying
<lidel> if you open Page Console (ctrl+shift+k in firefox) and switch to Network tab, you will see which requesrs were redirected to custom gateway (in Domain column), in Chrome there is similar screen and there is additional 307 redirect that makes things even more clear
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i was trying to get this to work with our LIFE FEED setup a few week ago when matt z was in town, but we couldnt get it to work / couldnt figure out if it was working!??!
<lidel> by default these screens may not show XHR requests, you may want to tweak filters to display them too, if your page does the fetching via javascript
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (i use f12 in network, and it does show ajax requests)
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> anyway from the sounds of it unless you have a local ipfs server installed, the pluging will just use a remote gateway, right?
<lidel> yeah it should show which gateway is being used in the status after you click browser action icon
<darkdrgn2k[m]> im going to try to test it later with the plugin on the other computer (dont want to install it on this one :P)
<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], quick test you can do is to load page when local gateway is used, then click "Switch to Public Gateway" and refresh page, to reload it via public gateway
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<lidel> popular problem is when your local gateway does not have probper CORS headers set up
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i mean the xrm
<lidel> and if public gw works and local one does not, it usually means CORS issue
<darkdrgn2k[m]> http://node2.e-mesh.net/hls/stream.html?gw=https://hardbin.com/ipfs
<darkdrgn2k[m]> thast the live stream
<darkdrgn2k[m]> well
<darkdrgn2k[m]> a live stream
<lidel> ah i see there is CORS error (i have extension and redirect enabled)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> onwhat?
<lidel> Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at https://hardbin.com/ipfs/QmXoKnjphRZaBkj1oLpmnnrcc5Z387fgrHcHzp6EyEZZ9H. (Reason: CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ missing).
<darkdrgn2k[m]> =( oh
<lidel> but i see you have CORS header set up correctly
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ipns would solve that problem if it wasnt that flaky!
<darkdrgn2k[m]> on test
<darkdrgn2k[m]> QmXoK,.. is a media file puled from a remote gateway
<darkdrgn2k[m]> public gateway rather
<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], you were using Firefox, right?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yes
<lidel> ok, this is an upstream issue i filled some time ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1450965 (some ipfs context here: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/issues/436)
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<lidel> i see it starts impacting more and more people as everyone starts playing with IPFS assets on pages in JS contexts
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ah
<lidel> perhaps we should disable redirect for cross-domain XHR in Firefox, this false-positive breaks valid use cases
<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], if I click "Switch to public Gateway" the page loads correct, so it is indeed this bug
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<lidel> I'll look into what we can do to mitigate
<whyrusleeping> not sure its been brought up yet, but with the extension you get a window.ipfs instance
<whyrusleeping> that lets you do things like ipfs.get("QmFoo")
<whyrusleeping> to fetch data
<lidel> good point, that is a way of fetching data over IPFS and work around the problem with CORS
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yeh that would require a rework of video.js and the plugin to work,
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i think well put that ont he back burner and use public gateways for now
<darkdrgn2k[m]> http://node2.e-mesh.net/hls/stream.html will show localhost if its enabled :)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i still need to figure out how to make the data available faster..to many times it takes >30 seconds to find and download
<lidel> I was looking at https://d.tube (they have no cors issues even with redirect) but they dont fetch via XHR, i think they fetch via <video src>
<darkdrgn2k[m]> for livestream we need HLS which cuts the video up into small chunks
<lidel> but what I've found is that when you open a video, they send one XHR. It is HTTP HEAD to resource at ipfs.io
<lidel> sneaky preloaders ;-)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> cause we need to has each chunk with ipfs ahead of time
<darkdrgn2k[m]> hehe i do the same
<darkdrgn2k[m]> not sure if it works but
<darkdrgn2k[m]> `curl --max-time 1 https://ipfs.io/ipfs/$h &`
<darkdrgn2k[m]> after i IPFS add :P
<lidel> browser extension also preloads uploads via HTTP HEAD
<darkdrgn2k[m]> trying to warm the cache on the gateways :/
<lidel> i suspect we may start handling HTTP HEAD on gateway in special way at some point
<lidel> also, there are other public gateways than ipfs.io: https://ipfs.github.io/public-gateway-checker/
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i know
<darkdrgn2k[m]> http://node2.e-mesh.net/hls :)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> i havea gatway ping like you do in javascrtp
<lidel> perhaps we could start using https://github.com/ipfs/public-gateway-checker/blob/master/gateways.json as a community resource for preloading stuff in round-robin fashion ;-)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> o.O ooo that be interesting
<darkdrgn2k[m]> my big problem righ tnow is finding content on ipfs takes to long :(
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<lidel> oh wow
<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], is it ipfs (findprovs) or ipns?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> nooo no ipns
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ipns is > 2 mins :(
<darkdrgn2k[m]> just calls to gateway
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (ipns over pubsub is a better when it doesnt stall.. but is not running on most getways since its experimental)
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> sometimes it much better. other times much wors
<darkdrgn2k[m]> we have to run 30 second cunnk MINUM to allow enough time for this variance but today it seems it should be more like 40
<darkdrgn2k[m]> it may also be that my test machines here is behind a nat..
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<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: is that transfer speed graph made while using mars.i.ipfs.team as the gateway?
<whyrusleeping> if using mars, i was looking at disk write latency numbers for it earlier, and they are pretty bad. I'll see about spinning up a node with a more performant disk to see if things work better for you
<darkdrgn2k[m]> No
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> seems the be the most responsiv gateway
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<whyrusleeping> but it doesnt have the ipns pubsub, right?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> no
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ipns pubsub works great
<darkdrgn2k[m]> except when it randomly stops updating for a few mins
<darkdrgn2k[m]> then starts again
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (this the m3u8 file is just a http pull)
<whyrusleeping> the randomly stopping might be a partition in the pubsub graph
<whyrusleeping> aka, your node and the gateway got disconnected
<whyrusleeping> nodes not pubsubbing on your topic won't relay messages for it
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<whyrusleeping> if my hypothesis there is correct, adding more nodes (other subscribers to that topic) will greatly improve the stability
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ok now do i make a node behind a nat connectable foraward 4001
<darkdrgn2k[m]> or this
<darkdrgn2k[m]> "/ip4/76.10.166.91/tcp/1044/ipfs/QmTVrsREgGQ7QN5wGhDJshAmPXPV4ZVcw7XQ9X7wDSwEWc"
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> How do you add nodes
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> Also would it help to ipfs add content on multiple servers
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (and I assume scp would be faster then ipfs pin)
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<whyrusleeping> forwarding 4001 should do the trick
<whyrusleeping> pinning on multiple servers would help yes
<whyrusleeping> though for this amount of data, pinning should be plenty fast enough
<darkdrgn2k[m]> What's faster. Scp to server then ipfs add. Or just ipfs pin
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> And any way to check. If it worked
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (ie why does address say 1042)
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<jamiew> so is igis getting some wind behind as of yesterday's GitHub+Microsoft news? :)
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<r0kk3rz> people still really hate microsoft huh
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<whyrusleeping> darkdrgn2k[m]: the address probably says port 1042 because of that being the outbound port peers see from your NAT
<whyrusleeping> jamiew: i definitely poked Magik6k_ to make the front page of it work today because of that ;)
<jamiew> it works, just a little slow :)
<whyrusleeping> r0kk3rz: they havent really given any good examples of not fucking up a company post acquisition
<r0kk3rz> this is true
<jamiew> I'd argue that LinkedIn is just as fucked up as when MS acquired them
<jamiew> so a net-neutral
<jamiew> VSCode scored them some points in my book ¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯ and all the consistently solid MS Research work
<r0kk3rz> indeed any major change in leadership of github could be disasterous
<whyrusleeping> the agressiveness of them trying to get me to add people has definitely gone up
<r0kk3rz> jamiew: yeah vscode is pretty good, generally ive been quite happy with their developer offering for years
<whyrusleeping> jamiew: yeah, MS Research is definitely solid
<whyrusleeping> just wish it wasnt all patented so hard
<whyrusleeping> really cool research
<whyrusleeping> but basically useless to anyone but MS
<r0kk3rz> and half the time they dont put it in any products :)
<whyrusleeping> yeah...
<whyrusleeping> such a waste of lamports talent TBH
<jamiew> well +1 igis, at least for syndication/backup
<jamiew> I guess the neckbeard stack will be gittea backed by igis or similar?
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<r0kk3rz> gitlab is pretty good these days
<r0kk3rz> and neckbeard friendly enough for gnome to use
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<mikeal_> my only concern with the GitHub aquisition is the public data feeds and apis
<mikeal_> They bought LinkedIn for the data, and it got harder to pull data out shortly after
<r0kk3rz> i feel real sorry for any company with github private repos
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<mikeal_> Even kicked down the rate limits would make my life a lot harder
<mikeal_> I think the GitHub EULA prevents them from looking too deeply at private data, and now with GDPR their hands are tied even more
<r0kk3rz> eventually they might break the APIs but only once they have microsoft certified alternatives for everything
<mikeal_> I recall a few years ago they wanted to know something about the private data and basically had to go and ask a bunch of their customers if they would participate in the research
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<daviddias> IPFS ALL HANDS -- https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/639 -- DOING IT LIVE https://www.youtube.com/c/IPFS-dweb/live 📹
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<shush> Can I get a link to the zoom chat today? :P
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<shush> Please :D
<jamiew> shush: it's always posted on ipfs/pm issues https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/639
<jamiew> shush: in progress https://zoom.us/j/779351365
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<shush> Ty
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> what specs do you need to run a gateway?
<voker57> lots of RAM
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<voker57> and automatic restart of IPFS when it runs out of RAM anyway
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<voker57> other resources are not rly significant, depends on how much you want to serve
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<ChrisMatthieu_> I just recorded a new @computesio video demonstrating how to build a Decentralized API powered by Computes & IPFS! Working on blog post now... https://youtu.be/RBVDhKrP9io
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<plexigras> the readme says check out the example folder but there isn't one https://github.com/ipld/js-ipld
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<gozala> Has anyone tried to build something along the lines of git-ssb but with ipfs ?
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<lidel> gozala, something other than https://igis.io ?
<gozala> lidel: have not heard of it yet, looking
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<gozala> lidel: is there docs somewhere for it ? Is it using gitremote-helpers ?
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<lidel> gozala, no idea, I did not play with it yet, but I dont think there is anything more than the repo at https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/IGiS (opening an issue about lack of docs may be a good step)
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<gozala> lidel: it looks like a viewer maybe, I don’t see how I would add ipfs remots
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<carsonfarmer[m]> gozala: https://igis.io/#/new/repo gives you can idea of how repos work
<carsonfarmer[m]> gozala: https://igis.io/#/new/repo gives you an idea of how repos work
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<lidel> "Note that these instructions are outdated" :D
<gozala> carsonfarmer[m]: thanks, don’t know how I did not see that
<gozala> oh so what I was looking for was git-remote-ipld I guess
<koalalorenzo[m]> First time tha I see somebody explaining what IPFS is on a porn subreddit 😃
<gozala> was about to ask if ipld was replacing ipns now but now I see remote-ipns mentioned there
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<Swedneck> 🤔
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<lidel> ..and I thought being blocked by GFW was the sign we've made it
<lidel> koalalorenzo[m], alas, nsfw links are against our Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS, please don't paste them in future
<koalalorenzo[m]> Sorry 🙂It has nothing NSFW inside, just text. Still 😃 my bad!
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<lidel> :)
<lidel> darkdrgn2k[m], fyi opened a PR with a fix for the bug we discussed earlier today: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/pull/494 (it is a workaround for a weird edge case, so any feedback - or questions - would be appreciated)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> Awsome. Thanks
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<lidel> k, time for some shut eye, o/
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