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<Swedneck> is there a way to put stuff on ipfs and link people to it so they can download it via the browser?
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<whyrusleeping> Swedneck: ipfs add
<whyrusleeping> then use the ipfs.io gateway
<whyrusleeping> (or any other gateway)
<Swedneck> doesn't seem to be working :/
<Swedneck> and that's not even using ipns, just plain ipfs
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<whyrusleeping> is your daemon running?
<Swedneck> yup
<Swedneck> it works fine on local gateway
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<tlacaelel[m]> Is there a copy of the to mesh stream code source?
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<TUSF> I have a question; what can plugins be used for, and what exactly does the current "git" plugin do?
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<whyrusleeping> TUSF: we have two types of plugins right now, one that adds new ipld extensions, like git, and ethereum
<whyrusleeping> and one that adds support for different opentracing backends
<whyrusleeping> the ipld extensions allow ipfs to natively parse and process data from those formats
<whyrusleeping> so the git one allows you to put git repos into ipfs, without changing their hashes or anything
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<TUSF> Ok, I *kinda* get the purpose of the ipld extensions, tho not sure on tracing—is that for some kind of debugging or something?
<TUSF> Also not entirely sure on what the git plugin is supposed to be doing. Like, why would I use it, instead of just adding the repo to IPFS again the normal way?
<TUSF> <whyrusleeping>
<whyrusleeping> TUSF: the tracing thing is for people who want to run ipfs in production environments and get nice performance metrics and tracing information out of it
<whyrusleeping> the git plugin allows you to do cool things, like https://igis.io
<whyrusleeping> where you can access git repo information via the merkledag structure
<whyrusleeping> instead of having to rely on after-the-fact parsing of it
<TUSF> I see
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<TUSF> How about gateway plugins, for treating certain file types in certain ways when seen from the gateway? ie. Rendering .md files and so on?
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<Fns[m]> whyrusleeping: igis.io does not work for me. Is it just me, or there's something not right?
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<whyrusleeping> Fns[m]: hrm... its a bit slow for me
<whyrusleeping> what browser?
<Fns[m]> Firefox 56 with ipfs-companion
<Fns[m]> It does not show any contents, although static data, like first page, menu, is fine.
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<Fns[m]> Also, is there a list of public ipfs gateways anywhere?
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<whyrusleeping> Fns[m]: this is a list i've used before: https://ipfs.github.io/public-gateway-checker/
<whyrusleeping> not sure who maintains it
<TUSF> All offline... haha
<TUSF> Ah, nvm
<TUSF> The ipfs-companion causes some kind of error with the page, so it makes all of them appear offline.
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<Swedneck> not for me
<Swedneck> uhhh nvm the companion extension disappeared...
<TUSF> Hah
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<Swedneck> yeah no it works
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<Swedneck> i restarted firefox so the extension shows up, the site still says most of the gateways are online
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<Fns[m]> About half of them are offline
<Swedneck> only 5 are offline for me
<TUSF> It's probably the Chrome version then. That page is checking if the gateway is up by checking the URLs to see if they work, but for some reason my ipfs-companion is trying to redirect it to my local gateway (which returns a CORS error)
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<Fns[m]> 8 offline for me. Strange
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<Fns[m]> How can I create my own public gateway?
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<lidel> Fns[m], just run go-ipfs at a public server somewhere, you probably want to hide it behind nginx or other reverse proxy to add HTTPS and make sure API port is not exposed to the public etc
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<lidel> Fns[m], Swedneck FYI there is a complex bug related to CORS and redirects done via webextensions, that is why Companion does not redirect cross-origin requests while Chrome does: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/issues/436
<lidel> but actually, for https://ipfs.github.io/public-gateway-checker/ we probably want both browsers to NOT redirect, so that status of real gateway is shown
<lidel> I'll PR it shortly
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<tlacaelel[m]> > honestly i'm just convinced networking is wires and magic
<tlacaelel[m]> This!
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<Fns[m]> Wires, boxes(!) and magic
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<jimmy_> Hello World!
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> Segmentation Failure
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<kayaelle[m]> Hello all
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<whyrusleeping> g'mornin
<_PiGreco1> hi everybody, is there an official guide on how to build a private network ?
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<whyrusleeping> _PiGreco1: theres the docs in the experimental features sheet: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/docs/experimental-features.md#private-networks
<whyrusleeping> we should probably write it up into its own doc soon, with more detail and examples
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<_PiGreco1> thank you whyrusleeping
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<TUSF> Are files contained within the `ipfs files` pseudo-filesystem counted as pinned?
<TUSF> As in, do they behave as if they were pinned?
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<lidel> TUSF, yes, they wpn
<lidel> TUSF, yes, they won't get gc'd
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<whyrusleeping> TUSF: any data you have that is referenced in the files api won't be GC'ed, but you don't have to have all the data referenced there local
<whyrusleeping> its a 'best effort' pin
<TrUsT_n1> Let me know if I understand this correctly. After adding a list to ipfs, you can append to the list with "ipfs object link"? I'm trying to figure out how to chain hashes together.
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<lgierth> ah so that's what "best effort pin" means?
<lgierth> that it doesn't demand everything exists in our local repo?
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> what kinda specs should we be looking at for the IPFS server (the one adding the ipfs entries into it)
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ram/cpu wise
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<lgierth> 4 cpus and 4gb ram should be enough, if it's not going to be the public face
<lgierth> most important is disk and bandwidth
<lgierth> you want to have guarantees there, and an SSD
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> yeh were using digital ocean
<darkdrgn2k[m]> right now using 1 gig memory and i think 1 processor
<darkdrgn2k[m]> its sitting at ipfs is sitting about 65% on both
<lgierth> yeah that's not much. these small droplets end up on hosts that are way oversubscribed
<lgierth> i.e. the bandwidth and disk i/o you get varies greatly
<lgierth> can be great one minute and crap the next
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> benhylau: ^^^^
<lgierth> i'll be happy to sponsor a dedi or two
<lgierth> ovh is not too great what what they have is good disks and good networking
<darkdrgn2k[m]> yeh im keeping that in mind:P
<lgierth> sure
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> right now we have a terraform script that brings up the stack on digital ocean
<darkdrgn2k[m]> the ipfs-mirror was a stretch goal, im gonna start working on that maybe tomorrow
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> side note.. 4001 is default swarm port right
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<lgierth> yeah
<darkdrgn2k[m]> thats tcp or udp
<lgierth> tcp
<lgierth> there used to be udp 4002 for the utp transport but that's been retired long ago
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<benhylau[m]> Yea I think we should use the box donated by Justin from metamesh as the main streaming ipfs node + gateway
<lgierth> oh decouple the source from the gateway
<benhylau[m]> We can bring it up as a mirror
<lgierth> it'll get overwhelmed
<lgierth> HN is gonna love this shit and the box is gonna die
<benhylau[m]> Yea the source should be okay on digital ocean if only the mirrors are consuming it
<lgierth> ah got it
<lgierth> well just saying, ipfs.io has a shitton of capacity :)
<benhylau[m]> We can also set up other boxes as mirrors
<benhylau[m]> Shall we stream off of ipfs.io or you are talking about donating some unmetered box for this?
<lgierth> ipfs.io as the gateway for streaming
<lgierth> we're about to add 3 more locations to the existing 4
<lgierth> and want to add more capacity in each of the locations too
<lgierth> i'll have a couple dozen ipfs and libp2p people in berlin the days before ournetworks btw, if we want to do some stress testing
<lgierth> you're officially invited too but i figure you're busy :)
<lgierth> ah hey we're in #ipfs
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<lgierth> hehe i didn't even notice. my shortcuts somehow always lead me to a channel where there's something going on
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<lgierth> darkdrgn2k[m]: kyledrake just lowered the /ipns cache ttl to 15s
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> new version or?
<darkdrgn2k[m]> > kyledrake just lowered the /ipns cache ttl to 15s
<lgierth> just in nginx on ipfs.io
<darkdrgn2k[m]> lgierth: is that part of a new ipfs version or how does it work
<darkdrgn2k[m]> where ?
<lgierth> we have nginx in front of :8080 on ipfs.io
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ooooo
<lgierth> which does ssl, websockets, etc. and since a few days ago also simple caching
<darkdrgn2k[m]> so how come when we hit the gateway direct we get caching?
<lgierth> do you caching in the browser?
<lgierth> that's because go-ipfs sets Cache-Control headers
<lgierth> the caching in nginx is that nginx itself has a cache, so it doesn't *always* have to hit go-ipfs and the disk
<darkdrgn2k[m]> remind me agan. are those cache-control headers are if the data changes?
<lgierth> they tell clients how to cache stuff
<lgierth> e.g. within /ipfs/, it sets Cache-Control: immutable, which means clients and intermediaries can cache the response indefinitely
<lgierth> for /ipns, it's now 15 seconds
<lgierth> you could also set Cache-Control headers that'd tell clients and intermediaries *not* to cache
<darkdrgn2k[m]> man that first ipns pull is so slow :P
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ipfs.io/ipns/QmRb81kpaWAHRaiVz2mtUidsb9KgeWYAwowVQsfXvqnGCE
<darkdrgn2k[m]> 167.99.179.60:8080/ipns/QmRb81kpaWAHRaiVz2mtUidsb9KgeWYAwowVQsfXvqnGCE
<darkdrgn2k[m]> so that publishing server, ipfs anad then a secondary server i just spun up that is a mirror
<lgierth> apart from the ipns fixes that are starting to land, kyledrake is working booting a few hundred pure dht nodes to tip the balance back to "okay"
<darkdrgn2k[m]> the list is supposed to grown every 15 seconds +/- 3
<darkdrgn2k[m]> problem is that i keep getthinc "cacheD" version directly from the gateway
<darkdrgn2k[m]> is that because ipns ddint propergate
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (even though the ipns hosting it is local)
<lgierth> mmh yeah probably
<lgierth> i'm working on some monitoring for the gateways right now
<lgierth> i can dig more into it right after that (and with more insight)
<lgierth> (doing watch -n 1 curl ipfs.io/ipns/QmRb81kpaWAHRaiVz2mtUidsb9KgeWYAwowVQsfXvqnGCE here)
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<TUSF> There should be a tool that generates a new IPFS object, by comparing an original hash and a new updated file, such that as many of the original blocks can be kept.
<darkdrgn2k[m]> what happens if you pin a second time? just ignores it
<darkdrgn2k[m]> (man pin is to slow lol)
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> (oops -n 1) lol still slow thoug
<darkdrgn2k[m]> takes over a minute to pin :'(
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> its litterary better to just WGET the file and ipfs add it then ipfs pin add :(
<TUSF> How big is the file/directory that's being pinned?
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<JCaesar> darkdrgn2k[m]: you can use ipfs refs -r instead of wgetting.
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<TrUsT_n1> JCaesar: You have an example cli for a website
<TrUsT_n1> JCaesar: "ipfs refs -r www.somewhere.com"
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<JCaesar> is that somewhere.com an ipns addr?
<TrUsT_n1> JCaesar: You referenced that you can use ipfs refs -r instead of wget. I would like to implement this but, and example would be great.
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> they are 5 mb chunks
<darkdrgn2k[m]> created every 15 mins on a differnt ipfs server
<darkdrgn2k[m]> ipfs refs -r instead ???
<JCaesar> maybe i dont understand what you're doing and am wrong?
<TrUsT_n1> darkdrgn2k[m]: Do you have an example of how to use ipfs refs -r to replace wget?
<JCaesar> i thought your wgetting from your gateway.
<TrUsT_n1> JCaesar: Sure, I have a gateway. Just looking for an example.
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<JCaesar> ... you can ipfs refs -r before you ipfs pin add (with the same argument), so as not to hold the pin lock for too long. thats all.
<TrUsT_n1> JCaesar: I will have to give it a try. Sounds great.
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<JCaesar> not too grat. useful at times maybe.
<darkdrgn2k[m]> sure
<darkdrgn2k[m]> curl http://178.128.236.220:8080/ipns/QmRb81kpaWAHRaiVz2mtUidsb9KgeWYAwowVQsfXvqnGCE | grep http | tail -n 5 | awk -F '/' '{print $5}' | xargs -n 1 ipfs pin add
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<darkdrgn2k[m]> (ok youll have to wait a bit im rebuilding the stack)