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<anomie[m]>
Has memory usage of the Go daemon improved over the last few months? Every time I try using IPFS to host stuff that is what dissuades me.
<whyrusleeping>
anomie[m]: it gets better every release
<whyrusleeping>
if you configure your node to keep a low connection count, you can get it down under 200MB i'm pretty sure
<anomie[m]>
That's good. I understand performance isn't the most important thing as new features get implemented, but I'm glad it gets a little bit of work here and there.
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<whyrusleeping>
not too many new features popping up
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<whyrusleeping>
really just been focusing on improving what we've got
<whyrusleeping>
memory usage is reasonable for most usecases, so we've been focusing on network layer fixes and improvements lately
<whyrusleeping>
since those are hampering usage more than memory problems right now
<TUSF>
They're both Electron apps that kinda make it simpler to interact with IPFS.
<TUSF>
I haven't used Planetary Dictator (300 MB download) but Orion has a certain downside; it runs its own IPFS node, and hasn't matured enough to have any settings.
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<shoku>
Awesome, thanks
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<koalalorenzo[m]>
TUSF: Siderus Orion allows you to use your own IPFS node in case you want 🙂 Just run the app with `go-ipfs` running in background ;-)
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<lantizia_>
1070 people, probably mostly idle - i guess there is something to this?
<lantizia_>
just watched the 1h long stanford video on ipfs.io - still confused how anyone is going to find this practical
<lantizia_>
well - for anything other than p2p file sharing that is
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<Swedneck>
how isn't ipfs practical?
<Swedneck>
aside from being in heavy development that is
<lantizia_>
Swedneck, ok lets say it's 2028 and my web browser has ipfs built in... the page i load from... wherever... is likely going to have links inside it and likely is going to be generated dynamically
<lantizia_>
the goal is to not necessarily have that page served by the original creators server
<lantizia_>
but if the page is dynamic then that means giving up the mechanism it was generated dynamically over the distributed network
<Swedneck>
dynamic content is a known problem
<lantizia_>
right but that's just 1 of 2 things that crept up in my mind after watching the video
<lantizia_>
if no one back ... whenever it was... had invented DNS... then you just *know* something other similar labeling like dns-like invention would have been popularised instead shortly after
<lantizia_>
no one likes to refer to ipv4 if they don't have to, least of all ipv6
<Swedneck>
the way i see it, IPFS is a CDN + torrents + deduplication
<lantizia_>
so whilst these ipfs links with the crazy hash names are good in practise, you just *know* whether officially (to the ipfs project or not) someone somewhere will popularise an easier to remember alternative
<lantizia_>
and pages will use them to link to instead - thus if those pointers die... access to the content dies
<Swedneck>
easier to remember?
<Swedneck>
ah
<lantizia_>
yeah if your page is trying to point people to the bbc news front page... you can remember bbc.co.uk/news but can't as much remember ipfs.io/QYEdfinnioeionef/bbc/news
<Swedneck>
IPNS is a thing, you know
<lantizia_>
yeah but wasn't that the thing that just replaced a hash with a hash?
<Swedneck>
and it was recently made faster in 0.4.16-rc1
<lantizia_>
you realise i'm only 1.5 hours into knowing this project existed :)
<Swedneck>
there are several "layers" to ipns
<Swedneck>
simplest is just publishing a file to your peer ID, which basically just gives things a permanent hash/address
<lantizia_>
atm i'm not convinced *except* for its uses in p2p file sharing (as i said when i entered the chan)
<lantizia_>
but tbh bittorrent + dht has this covered... or just a new blockchain
<lantizia_>
ipfs seems a little overengineered for this
<Swedneck>
the next step/layer is to make a domain point to an IPNS hash, so that ipns.io/ipns/mydomain.com points to that hash
<lantizia_>
Swedneck, right but people don't think in terms of hashes :)
<Swedneck>
well how else do you propose this to be done?
<Swedneck>
you can't treat this like a local filesystem, that doesn't work
<lantizia_>
i wasn't
<lantizia_>
in that vid btw - there was no talk of storage implications either
<Swedneck>
storage implications?
<lantizia_>
presumably ISP's (in order to claim quicker access to data) might be pressured into caching tonnes of regularly accessed content into huge ipfs nodes they host
<lantizia_>
for really mundane but often accessed stuff like a popular twitter post (if twitter used ipfs)
<lantizia_>
and then if the author if it wants to remove it - can they ?
<Swedneck>
ideally EVERYONE would run an IPFS node on their device
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<lantizia_>
yeah but the end user can't be expected to have nearly enough storage capacity to keep caching everything they ever accessed
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<Swedneck>
they aren't
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<Swedneck>
iirc the caching is very aggressive, it doesn't keep things around for very long
<lantizia_>
i also thought although its excellent it does't tie to down to using specific technologies to complete an ipfs system - very adaptable
<lantizia_>
that also meants its not very elegant for getting new adopters on board
<Swedneck>
not sure what you mean
<Elon_Sayori[m]>
> ideally EVERYONE would run an IPFS node on their device
<Elon_Sayori[m]>
too bad guixSD doesn't have ipfs
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<fiatjaf>
who hosts the content on this dtube thing?
<fiatjaf>
I tried to upload a video expecting to be the one who would be hosting it on my ipfs node, but apparently the site itself hosts it
<fiatjaf>
or whatever, because the upload didn't work
<fiatjaf>
in their faq, they say everywhere "the ipfs network is struggling"
<fiatjaf>
apparently they are trying to host everything themselves on a 486 pc and then blaming ipfs for the general slowness
<fiatjaf>
(steem is stupid, but I wanted to see if dtube would serve as a general ipfs-videos index)
<Swedneck>
yeah Dtube is kind of shit tbh
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<r0kk3rz>
tbh it should just be an indexer
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