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<plaes> wens: it seems that AXP288 driver is implemented by Intel
<wens> plaes: that right
<wens> plaes: iirc it's paired with some atom chip
<plaes> yea
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<wens> there's no public doc for that chip either
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<wens> O.o
<wens> i'm not aware of any more improvements to the axp288 bits though
<plaes> sorry, I just googled for AXP288 datasheet :P
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<wens> this is written so much better than the other axps
<plaes> woo.. found it
<plaes> doh.. nevermind
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<plaes> it's already mainlined :D
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<wens> really wish we could change the naming of all the axp drivers :p
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<plaes> ./drivers/power/axp288_fuel_gauge.c
<plaes> ./drivers/power/axp288_charger.c
<plaes> ./drivers/iio/adc/axp288_adc.c
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<plaes> change how?
<wens> keep only "axp"
<wens> it's currently named axp20x, while we also support axp152 and axp22x
<plaes> oh.. ok
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<plaes> well, wifi drivers are currently having a reorganization
<plaes> everything will go under <vendor>/...
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<wens> makes sense, given they are vendor contributed
<wens> anyway, changing the name is going to break a lot of stuff :(
<wens> user configs, defconfigs, not to mention the mfd driver uses the name to probe all the subdevices
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<plaes> why cannot you can keep the symbol?
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<wens> that's just for the configs
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<wens> you can always try to keep the old one to migrate, but it doesn't always work
<wens> like what I ran into with the axp20x-rsb driver :|
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<vishnup> I'm doubtful whether I'll be able to join FOSDEM 16. :(. Belgium embassy need invitation letter for conference, fosdem people say they can only send invitation to main track speakers
<vishnup> without invitation I won't get VISA.
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<asmir> Greetings; Does anyone know how does kodi(xbmc) stand on Android with A20? ie does the wiki article refer only to xbmc on linux?
<libv> asmir: because nobody bothered to give things back to the wiki
<libv> that information is now not available
<asmir> Oh, too bad, guess I'll try it myself than. Thanks.
<libv> asmir: but whatever you do, do not update the wiki
<asmir> why?
<libv> such a thing would only be useful and sensible
<asmir> still confused, I'm bad at recongnizing sarcasm.
<plaes> asmir: we get people popping in every now and then and asking about kodi-xbmc
<plaes> but noone ever updates wiki with their research on the topic
<montjoie> Hello I have updated the patch http://sunxi.montjoie.ovh/patchs_current/0001-crypto-sun4i-ss-support-the-Security-System-PRNG.patch if someone want to test it (wens ?:))
<plaes> montjoie: typo: otionnal
<montjoie> plaes: thanks
<asmir> plaes: I'll do, promise. :)
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<libv> i do not think that we have heard much about that since
<asmir> Reading that text I got the impression that Olimex is confident though. :\
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<bobby_> asmir: it turned out that Allwinner actually just started to work on such SoC and were angry at Olimex because of this early blog post.
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<bobby_> New SoC is expected to be released H2 2015 according to Tsvetan from Olimex
<fl_0> montjoie: thank you for your email
<adj_> H2 2016
<fl_0> I will test the new patches
<bobby_> oops, yes H2 2016
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<asmir> bobby_: Hmm... Still good if the software support gets better, thanks.
<adj_> I don't think that the blog post makes any damage to allwinner, the chip itself is anything except revolutionary, just a small upgrade pin compatible
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<adj_> this is free promotion
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<fl_0> montjoie: sun4i-ss module compiled without problems here
<fl_0> now booting the new kernel
<fl_0> sun4i-ss 1c15000.crypto-engine: sun4i-ss PRNG loaded
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<fl_0> montjoie: how can i test ne newly built module?
<fl_0> besides the log message i mentioned already
<montjoie> fl_0: cat /dev/hwrng | rngtest
<fl_0> hmm k
<fl_0> do not have rngtest on the system
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<montjoie> it is necessary to be sure it is working
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<topi`> I'm looking for an inexpensive way of home-making a single-disk NAS. For that, the A20 chip seems to be suitable - it has builtin SATA. Any hints for good boards that enjoy linux support?
<topi`> there is pcduino3 nano, the original banana pi, and also orange pi mini
<topi`> the last two seem to be very hard to get nowadays
<topi`> although there was a Banana pi for sale on dealextreme.com for $44 but I consider $44 a high price for an old board
<topi`> Sinovoip has Bananapi-M3 which is A83T based, with sata, but is there any decent way to boot linux on it?
<NiteHawk> the M3 is a bad choice IMHO, as that's native sata - but sata over a usb bridge instead
<NiteHawk> ..that's *not* native sata
<topi`> I'm fine with sata-usb bridges, if they are reliable enough
<NiteHawk> okay, just thought i'd mention it
<topi`> when the connectivity is over 802.11n, that's where the bottleneck is, not SATA speed
<topi`> but that's a valid point, I also would prefer native SATA over a bridge chip
<topi`> but it just sucks that it's so difficult to find modern low end ARM boards with SATA
<topi`> there are the i.MX6 boards, but all of them tend to be more expensive than most Allwinner boards
<topi`> and only the top-of-the-line (and expensive) imx6 Quad offers SATA
<atsampson> the pcDuino3 Nano seems to work well enough for me -- the RAM's not as quick as other A20 boards, but I use mine to connect SATA drives to for backup purposes and I've been pretty happy
<atsampson> and it is at least reasonably easy to get hold of...
<atsampson> I'd also have a look at the Olimex A20 boards (e.g. the LIME2-A20)
<adj_> +1 for the Lime2
<adj_> but SATA ports on most arm chips (including allwinner A20) are quite slow
<TheLinuxBug> topi`: Depends on how fast you want your content - For example Orang Pi, new Banapi M3 etc all use a sata to usb adapater making max throughput on sata 30M/sec after overhead
<TheLinuxBug> A20 with correct tweaks you can get 45M/sec write and about 100M/sec read
<TheLinuxBug> and gigabit nic can only bind one cpu core at a time anyhow, so max throughput on gigabit is 50M/sec
<TheLinuxBug> so really A20 is best bet for anything NAS related
<topi`> unfortunately the A20 is very old, has slow buses etc
<adj_> yes, and at least comparing it with rpiB's sata (usb based) is more stable
<topi`> the H3 is more modern, faster ram, more cores, but unfortunately no builtin SATA
<TheLinuxBug> topi`: while true, none of the newer SoCs support SATA so its a trade off
<TheLinuxBug> you either get good SATA throughput
<TheLinuxBug> or
<TheLinuxBug> ...
<TheLinuxBug> Would be awesome if they would release a new SoC with sata support thats worth while, however, I am guessing there is a strategic reason they are not doing this (would create competition in the NAS/SAN market)
<topi`> in my case, it's the wireless net that's the bottleneck. But I do prefer builtin SATA because it will be more reliable than any usb chip
<TheLinuxBug> and thats the main market ARM is used in in retail atm.. soo
<topi`> was there some Rockchip that also included SATA?
<topi`> I think there is SATA on my Radxa Rock 2
<topi`> which is a RK3288
<topi`> I haven't booted it in a while - need to check that
<TheLinuxBug> yeah but how fast is it
<TheLinuxBug> I forget
<TheLinuxBug> plus general support isn't as good
<TheLinuxBug> and yes it does have SATA it looks
<TheLinuxBug> lot more expensive too
<adj_> topi, I don't think that h3's RAM is much faster than A29, and it uses the same cores, so only you get the two more cores
<adj_> a20, I meant
<TheLinuxBug> yeah pretty much was my understanding
<topi`> true
<topi`> the amount of RAM is more important
<TheLinuxBug> that Raxda board may actually do better though
<adj_> a20 and h2 support 2GB
<adj_> and both have 32bit RAM bus
<adj_> and both have similar ram frequencies
<topi`> right, maybe it's possible to find an A20 based board with 2 GB
<adj_> i don't know
<Wizzup> cubietruck?
<atsampson> the Cubietruck has 2GB...
<atsampson> but it's a bit more expensive than a Nano/LIME!
<adj_> i will buy lime2 again if it comes with 2GB
<TheLinuxBug> but you also pay for the difference
<TheLinuxBug> Cubietruck isn't a bad deal more ram same A20
<topi`> there was a rumor about A40 with 4 cores
<TheLinuxBug> topi`: raxda board is $130 compared to a $40 Banana Pi
<adj_> I don't think that you will get better SATA performance on arm, except if you go for a NAS design from marvell
<TheLinuxBug> but is much faster
<TheLinuxBug> has more ram
<TheLinuxBug> THOUGH
<TheLinuxBug> only 100mbit nic
<topi`> hmm, the cheapest A20 I could find, is Pcduino3 nano Lite for $35
<adj_> for a NAS you don't need a lot of RAM
<TheLinuxBug> topi`: You want Banana Pi M1 has gigabit nic
<topi`> a Gigabit NIC is a nice-to-have
<atsampson> topi`: the Nano Lite is just a Nano without the flash and IR receiver, so it'll work on anything that supports the Nano (i.e. it's mainline supported as of 4.2)
<adj_> bye
<atsampson> (* I have not actually tried this)
<arete74> thelinuxbug: sata on radxa is usb2sata
<topi`> is the Banana PI-M1 the same as the "original" BPi?
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<NiteHawk> topi`: for all practical purposes yes. BPi-M1 is the name that SinoVoip uses
* atsampson is amused to discover that cubieboard.org's recommended EU eBay store sells Allwinner dev boards and fishing tackle
<topi`> amazon.com seems to be selling Pcduino3
<topi`> what? $15 ???
<atsampson> "This item does not ship to Dundee, United Kingdom." -- *mutter*
<topi`> yeah, it's always to shop for items that originate from the US
<topi`> difficult
<topi`> plus, you'll pay the VAT + taxes + duty
<topi`> it seems UPS is charging an extra 15 eur for all orders that go through the customs, so I generally try to order inside EU
<atsampson> yes, but given they're £35 in the UK, I would be happy to buy 16 of them at that price and pay import duty...
<topi`> good point
<topi`> unfortunately I don't know any people with whom to share costs of a bulk order
<topi`> I might find an use for perhaps 3 Pcduinos
<TheLinuxBug> <arete74> thelinuxbug: sata on radxa is usb2sata :( Depressing
<TheLinuxBug> thanks for the info though
<TheLinuxBug> oo oo
<TheLinuxBug> nice
<TheLinuxBug> :)
<TheLinuxBug> need a few more boards to play with
<TheLinuxBug> thanks for that
<TheLinuxBug> is it using similar compnents to BPi
<TheLinuxBug> wondering if they will run bananian
<TheLinuxBug> or whatever that dist is lol
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