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buZz >
'hello we made a board but know nothing about software'
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buZz >
@ pine64 email to ML
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JohnDoe_71Rus >
buZz: You can nail it to the wall :)
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buZz >
> As for the hardware itself, currently we are in the mist of building some sample board to allow any interested developer to work on it.
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buZz >
if you want free stuff
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JohnDoe_71Rus >
buZz: what chip?
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JohnDoe_71Rus >
buZz: think 2Gb ram was better
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JohnDoe_71Rus >
memory shared with the video, 4K
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buZz >
i dont really like the board either
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buZz >
lack of sata on such a board is quite a drag
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i have smartfone with 512mb. And now is too small. I don't look at the devices with <2Gb
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rds_ >
buZz: it is more like this: "we are another SHIT-PI copier, and we copied some H/W from others shit-PI, and now we need help to get some SW running on it"
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rds_ >
we spent $5K US$, and we don't have a budget of $5M to $20M and need free help, if we make it, we get rich and you sillies get nothing!
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rds_ >
more or less what AllWinner has been doing for quite a while!
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libv >
rds_: or, this could end up being like the chip, they end up paying for development, but this time admitting from the getgo that they have no clue
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libv >
i cannot find their kickstarter page
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rds_ >
at least CHIP "hired" free-electrons that know what they're doing! it is a bit positive
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libv >
12/8 means, they will probably launch in two weeks time
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libv >
rds_: but the chip guys only went with free-electrons after the kickstarter campaign got a lot of crap over gpl violations
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libv >
these guys are already better than that, if they end up doing something similar in the end, that is
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libv >
still woefully late in the process
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libv >
but about a month earlier than chip
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libv >
2 weeks before the kickstarter, not 2 weeks in the kickstarter
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rds_ >
it is funny all these "X-PI" things, and many people asking: "Can we do H/W acceleation" or play my 1080p movie on it ?" and usually the answer is: "Ask the Sunxi community"
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libv >
rds_: yes, and surprisingly little ever flows back
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rds_ >
no links work at the "pine64" site. I clicked on Support, Wiki, Forums, FAQ and it is just text on the page.... LOL
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Seppoz >
anyone know a cheap ass a10/20 board with ethernet on and some gpio header
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libv >
Seppoz: olimex lime
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Seppoz >
too expensive
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Seppoz >
yep, im looking for some 10 buck thingy
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Seppoz >
i allready have lime
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Seppoz >
also lime it too big
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libv >
redesign as needed
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libv >
or contact olimex to do the work for you
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Seppoz >
yea but even if i do it wont be cheaper ;P
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libv >
Seppoz: you always get what you pay for
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Seppoz >
no need to contact olimex for that but i wsa wondering if there is something ready to go
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Seppoz >
all i really need is axp, cpu and ethernet + sd
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rds_ >
the root cause of all these platform issues, are caused by AW, since they don't provide documentation for the SW gurus to get things done.
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rds_ >
I think there are plenty of H/W choices!
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Seppoz >
considering how it was in the begging it bot much better
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rds_ >
but NONE of them, has decent SW running on it. Yes, you can run some headless devices, more or less ok
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Seppoz >
still dot stuff above like a31 its a pita
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Seppoz >
which cpu are you talking about?
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rds_ >
but, people use these gadgets for media, and there is where All Winner screwed up big time
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libv >
there, i hope i have not overstepped my mark and that i pointed these guys in the right direction without scaring them too much
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Seppoz >
im really waiting for dev board with the new H chips
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Seppoz >
anyone seen any?
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buZz >
Seppoz: CHIP ?
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libv >
oh, h8, i cannot keep track anymore these days :p
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buZz >
oh yeah, CHIP uses R8
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Seppoz >
R series is also interrresting
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buZz >
Seppoz: why not get pine64?
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buZz >
check those two links
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buZz >
they need someone with skill ;)
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buZz >
no ethernet though, but wifi and bt
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Seppoz >
got a link?
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buZz >
i just gave you three O_o
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Seppoz >
you guys seen the new 5 bucks spi zero?
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buZz >
yeah mine been shipped already
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buZz >
should have it on tuesday , i guess
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Seppoz >
yea they are not gonna be able to produce and sell thiws board for 15 bucks
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Seppoz >
not gonna happen
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Seppoz >
only considering the sockets connectors and chips
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buZz >
dno, not my area
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Seppoz >
wow most importaint
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Seppoz >
3.5mm Stereo Output mini-jack with Microphone Support
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Seppoz >
i will never understand this
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Seppoz >
also its too big again
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Seppoz >
im looking for somehting like this but with ethernet
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Seppoz >
sorry german
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Seppoz >
i said something like this xD
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buZz >
weird, german article read specs wrong?
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Seppoz >
yea there is 2
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rds_ >
those "shit-PI" pops up, like a dozen per week!
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buZz >
pretty cute @ nanopi-2
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rds_ >
there is no SW support for them!
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Seppoz >
it has stupid connectors
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Seppoz >
the nano pi
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buZz >
rds_: dont you think thats an amazing feature of our times
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buZz >
possibility to crank out hardware at such amazing speeds
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buZz >
we really live in times of great excess :D
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Seppoz >
any news on the allwinner a40?
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rds_ >
I am waiting for the $4 tag on them
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Seppoz >
thats something im really waiting for
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Seppoz >
see i will never understand why people put TVOut or 3.5mm audo jacks on such systems
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rds_ >
I recall posting here that the sub $10 were coming and it was silly when cubietech, released their A80 dev board for like $300
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Seppoz >
does anyone even use them?
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rds_ >
nobody has analog TV anymore!, even in Africa you can't find analog tv
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Seppoz >
thats what i mean
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Seppoz >
but yet they keep adding this stupid connector
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Seppoz >
in the wirdest places
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buZz >
rds_: i have a couple
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rds_ >
people that do these "shit-PI", dont think they just repeat what the guy next door did it!
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Seppoz >
merrii does have some nice products
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Seppoz >
but they are quite expensive
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buZz >
also, its a lot cheaper to find a small lcd with analog input, than it is with HDMI input
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Seppoz >
recently made a board with C21 core board but even this is like 30 USD
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Seppoz >
do you know any lcd with analog input?
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Seppoz >
like 7" panels
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Seppoz >
all A10/20 boards are so big
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buZz >
Seppoz: sure, dx.com is filled with it
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Seppoz >
lol you search for internet of things and they come up with stuff that dont even have any networking modules
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buZz >
i hope someone will make a pi0 'killer' with a faster cpu and more ram, and possibly sata
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buZz >
i need something like that for a IoT finance enabler
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Seppoz >
ARIETTA-G25
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Seppoz >
problem with a20 is that it needs so many different voltages
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so you kind of need axp
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wens_ >
merrii mostly does design and products for commercial applications
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wens_ >
the community dev boards are just an extra
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wens_ >
afaik H8 == A83
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buZz >
libv: nice reply
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Seppoz >
maybe i have to make one then, as i dont fine any that would even fit the dimentions i need
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rds_ >
libv, that was a great post! right on target
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and it really is only a board with no ios at all LOL
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Seppoz >
i love this
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libv >
buZz, rds_: thanks
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ganbold >
they are updating their web
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ganbold >
19$ with gigabit ethernet
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JohnDoe_71Rus >
Seppoz: rds_: i have 2 21 inch crt tv and one 23 inch monitor with dvi. And don't have tv/monitor with hdmi
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rds_ >
you may need to give them to some museum, it might have some utility there!
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wens >
pine64 team is american as well... hmm
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i do not know the museum of old devices. one tv from 199x years :)
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rds_ >
let me see... 199x + 2016, nearly 20 years old! so.. let me see... make 64 bits boards with Analog TV is probably a feature no one wants!
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JohnDoe_71Rus >
rds_: and many android media players has cvbs
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JohnDoe_71Rus >
to compatible
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wens >
omilex has the new a64 user manuals on github
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rds_: we use analog tvs at our hackerspace aswell
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and they travel through the local giveawayshops often and fast
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