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yeah I'm missing it then. so "sunxi-fel spl <binary from 32bit build>" then write a 64bit uImage? which file in the uboot build is the uImage?
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karlp: write?
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I have a a10 based tablet that is obscure god knows why
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banned-why >
I can't find anything on internet
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banned-why >
no ROM, no software
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banned-why >
the sunxi wiki bring me here :D
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banned-why >
I'm trying to run linux on it but even the ready made builds struggle to run...
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banned-why >
guess its related to hardware... but still want to know your opinion about this
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banned-why >
I'll leave pictures of the hardware
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BenG83 >
start by making a wiki site for your device
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BenG83 >
first step would be to find out how you can connect a serial console
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BenG83 >
is the board similar to one already on the wiki:
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banned-why >
BenG83: I think its not. Its pretty slim compared to all the boards available on wiki
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banned-why >
Will do that soon
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BenG83 >
find out what DRAM configuration is uses by looking at the chips
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banned-why >
BenG83: setting up a serial connection would take some time as I do not have the necessary equips here.. but I can do that
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banned-why >
ok, let me inspect it for a sec
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BenG83 >
so there is no original software image on it atm?
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banned-why >
no. It was like this since the start
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banned-why >
bought it off for a penny
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banned-why >
guess the owner tried to do something nasty on it
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banned-why >
it doesn't contain volume buttons
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banned-why >
probably tried to write an android rom and couldn't get recover the device from a failed install
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banned-why >
it has a power button, the FEL mode and home
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banned-why >
take a look
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banned-why >
imgur turned images low res automatically. Will do an upload of it elsewhere
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banned-why >
BenG83: the more similar hardware specification to this board is the Rikomagic mk802
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banned-why >
however the hardware itself seems pretty different in how it is built and the shape of board
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DonkeyHotei >
board says A702 on it
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banned-why >
mine is a10 / 512mib of ddr3 / 4gb nand / mini-hdmi c / 5v @ 2A / rtl8188eu/s / 1 usb port / 1 mini-usb port / sd-card slot
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banned-why >
I took a look on the 702 on wiki but it doesn't match.
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banned-why >
the wifi is different
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banned-why >
and the resolution of the display is different
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banned-why >
mine is 1024x600
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banned-why >
I tried to flash some roms found on web but some didn't work as expected presenting me a black screen upon start
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banned-why >
two of them give video but out of aspect/resolution with a resized screen
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BenG83 >
well if you have images that somewhat work and you can find the uart pins for console you can find out some things to see which A10 board dts fits maybe
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BenG83 >
or adapt one to the board
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BenG83 >
by video output do you mean on LCD or HDMI?
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banned-why >
exactly what I was thinking but didn't read enough to have a different point of view in which approach would fit better for this device
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BenG83 >
lcd is good since then you can find out what BSP linux driver it uses
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banned-why >
it seems to be very different from everything on wiki already documented
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BenG83 >
and the parameters from the dtb blob maybe
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banned-why >
how can I start?
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BenG83 >
find the serial port :)
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banned-why >
I guess it is already labeled on board
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banned-why >
with black marker on 4 pins
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banned-why >
the only problem is I don't have a capable converter/ttl to connect into
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BenG83 >
well those you can get for 5-10$ on ebay/amazon etc
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banned-why >
booted some linux distros couple of hours ago but all of them would bring me to a black screen after loading the kernel
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BenG83 >
with mainline?
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banned-why >
no. I tried to run the debian installer first
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banned-why >
didn't work, would lead to a black screen after loading kernel. a uart connection would be good to know a workaround for this
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banned-why >
this image boots correctly but I don't think it loads any gpu driver
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BenG83 >
yeah some things on A10 can only be connected in one way
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BenG83 >
but for anything more you need to adapt a devicetree file for your board where all the pinouts are correct
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BenG83 >
you probably can get HDMI and USB easy
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BenG83 >
LCD is tricky
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BenG83 >
but if you have some image where LCD works you can extract the information from that
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banned-why >
the pinout is erased when a new rom is flashed right? with the script.bin file
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BenG83 >
I don't know much about booting AW devices from flash, but I think it's partitioned
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BenG83 >
so you might have still some dtb blob on there
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BenG83 >
you can convert script.bin to fex I think
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BenG83 >
and look at the config
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BenG83 >
but do you have a script bin that matches your tablet?
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banned-why >
no. It matches the rom flashed
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banned-why >
every rom flashed overwrites the old file
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banned-why >
and I've done that numerous times
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BenG83 >
if it drives the LCD, that's better than nothing
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banned-why >
although sound didn't seem to work correctly
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banned-why >
wifi neither since its a driver that has no support in current available distros from what I read
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BenG83 >
what wifi is on the board?
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banned-why >
8188eus
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banned-why >
yeah, you must be thinking he got it wrong, it meant CUS
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banned-why >
it is not...
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banned-why >
unfortunately
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BenG83 >
that's a pretty common wifi chipset used in those things
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banned-why >
that is good to hear. because all the android roms have the 8192.ko driver
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BenG83 >
what do you want to run in the end?
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banned-why >
only one of them have the 8188eu.ko but this rom didn't want to boot in my device
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banned-why >
BenG83: anything that is capable of, as recovering the android rom for this one seems like impossible task
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banned-why >
and to build and add the device description to the sunxi wiki :D
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BenG83 >
start with a minimal A10 devicetree and add stuff as you go
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BenG83 >
that's what I would do
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BenG83 >
but it's a bit of work to figure all out
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BenG83 >
for LCD you want to look at the script.bin/fex file config for the LCD at least
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BenG83 >
first of all, figure out what dram is installed on the board
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banned-why >
how do I found out?
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banned-why >
all I have is the partner number and serial number printed on the chip
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BenG83 >
yeah look if you find a datasheet with that?
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BenG83 >
look through the a10 devices already supported
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BenG83 >
find one that is close
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BenG83 >
tricky part is finding out what is connected how to the PMIC rails
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BenG83 >
e.g. the voltages and which regulator powers what
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JuniorJPDJ >
BenG83: where's minimal a10 dts? I saw there are great bases for tablet with a31s and a13, which I've actually used, but I'm going to port also a10 tablet, which doesn't have this things.
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JuniorJPDJ >
Also I need help with getting sound working on a31s
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BenG83 >
just look at a board dts and disable all the things that you dont need really
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BenG83 >
look at the SoC dts and see what's there
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BenG83 >
and then enable things step by step in your board
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BenG83 >
while you figure out the connections
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banned-why >
seems to be a good idea
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BenG83 >
some things like USB can be only connected in one way more or less
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BenG83 >
those are easy to test
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BenG83 >
other things like LCD or sound may need enabling power rails and setting GPIOs
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BenG83 >
which can be different for each board
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BenG83 >
usually those tablets follow all the same reference design
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BenG83 >
so it's a good guess to see how those things are wired up on devices that already work
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banned-why >
I have a question, why some stuff have multiple entries on the dts board?
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BenG83 >
but first connect a serial console and see if spl/u-boot configure your dram correctly
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banned-why >
multiple entries
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banned-why >
why multiple of them if only one is available physically?
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banned-why >
or I'm being ignorant?
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BenG83 >
the SoC dts lists all of the uarts in the SoC of course
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BenG83 >
but your board dts may only enable some of them
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BenG83 >
e.g. those that are physically connected
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BenG83 >
describes the SoC
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BenG83 >
describes a board based on that SoC
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BenG83 >
#include "sun4i-a10.dtsi"
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BenG83 >
#include "sunxi-common-regulators.dtsi"
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BenG83 >
it includes the SoC dts and some other things
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BenG83 >
and you enable nodes that you need
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BenG83 >
like here:
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BenG83 >
pinctrl-0 = <&uart0_pb_pins>;
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BenG83 >
pinctrl-names = "default";
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BenG83 >
status = "okay";
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BenG83 >
enable uart0 on the portb pins
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banned-why >
interesting
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BenG83 >
read up a bit on how devicetree works
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BenG83 >
devicetree is generally used to describe the SoC/board/periphery to u-boot and linux, or any other OS
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banned-why >
cool. remember dsdt tables. are they different or do we have them on such devices too?
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banned-why >
or the dts files are the 'dsdt' files for such devices?
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BenG83 >
some ARM board support ACPI too
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BenG83 >
more in the server market
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banned-why >
interesting
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BenG83 >
but for embedded devices, it's usually devicetree
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BenG83 >
Allwinner used their own thing, fex files
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BenG83 >
they get converted to devicetree blobs in the end
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BenG83 >
but that's onlt for their legacy/bsp kernel stuff
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BenG83 >
e.g. what their Android stuff runs on
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BenG83 >
mainline Linux and u-boot use devicetree
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banned-why >
understood.
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banned-why >
the hyundai a7hd must have the lcd chapter I need
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banned-why >
because its rom worked correctly for my device for video output on the lcd
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BenG83 >
that's good
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BenG83 >
if you can get the fex file from script.bin
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BenG83 >
you can see how the lcd was configured and maybe setup that in your devicetree
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BenG83 >
also probably the configuration for other things
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banned-why >
you can regulate voltage inside the dts?
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BenG83 >
for some outputs of the PMIC
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BenG83 >
ther should be an AXP209 or sth on your board
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BenG83 >
that controls all the voltages
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BenG83 >
see here for the cubiboard example
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BenG83 >
it configures some AXP209 nodes
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banned-why >
it is an axp209 indeed
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banned-why >
BenG83: hyundaia7hd doesn't seem to have a section that controls lcd
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BenG83 >
that can either be because LCD support wasnt there at the time, no one updated it yet or the info is missing :)
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BenG83 >
the mainline dts usually get updated once support for the hardware is there, but it also needs someone with the device to actually test it
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BenG83 >
for LCDs in particular you also need to know how the power is controller, and the backlight
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BenG83 >
*controlled
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BenG83 >
which usually involves a couple GPIOs and a PWM output
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banned-why >
is it possible to found out about that on my own?
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banned-why >
without a working device?
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BenG83 >
well you have the image that can drive your LCD?
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BenG83 >
and the script.bin?
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banned-why >
I'm going to test another one just to see if something else can get working...
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banned-why >
good news BenG83, the mini-hdmi display works under the hyundaia7hd rom
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banned-why >
had to make a little edit on the script.bin to make the usb available, before it wasn't working because its set to not work by default
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banned-why >
otherwise I couldn't get mouse and keyboard working too..
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banned-why >
and the 8192cu wifi module that also works under the usb
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tuxillo >
where in Documentation are the mm/ details described?
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tuxillo >
I'm trying to find out what linux does to avoid fragmentation
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tuxillo >
hmm maybe Documentation/vm ?
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jaganteki >
Hi mripard,
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MoeIcenowy >
jernej: successfully built mali midgard r22p0 kbase on H6
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MoeIcenowy >
but when inserting it into the kernel, sometimes it works, sometimes it hangs after "Linked as a consumer to regulator.2"
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plaes >
which regulator is it?
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MoeIcenowy >
plaes: of course, vdd-gpu
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plaes >
maybe it has similar issue as axp209's LDO3
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jernej >
MoeIcenowy: I don't remember such issues
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jernej >
it worked pretty stable
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jernej >
did you tested any app?
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MoeIcenowy >
jernej: no app to test
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MoeIcenowy >
I didn't apply fbdev hack
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jernej >
I'm not sure hack is needed for all apps
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MoeIcenowy >
jernej: issue will happen when unloaded the mali module then reload it
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jernej >
ah, I haven't done that
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jernej >
but anyway, it can be fixed eventually
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jernej >
MoeIcenowy: Would be this good enough for AW to make GBM driver?
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MoeIcenowy >
I will try to send them to AW
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anarsoul >
MoeIcenowy: haha, proprietary modules are rarely safe to remove :)
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jernej: btw I hacked the DT binding to conform to mainline binding
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MoeIcenowy >
and I sent a patch to mainline binding for H6
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jernej >
if you prove with your driver that it works, please send DT entry upstream
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jernej: tested with kbase driver or with userspace driver?
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jernej: strangely add a dev_info at the end of power_control_init() fixes the hang
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so, synchronization/timing issue - worst kind
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but then again, early pp1k and later pp1k had different chips...), and the fact that the pp1k has an internal sd-card slot (came prefilled with an 4gb card in my tablet)
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BroderTuck >
I would need help from somewone who 1) speaks dts, and 2) knows which config options to use for turning on a10 sun4i_drm with lcd and/or hdmi support.
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in kernel and/or u-boot
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fALSO >
looking at that, it should work
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ahhh lcd.... just normal HDMI should work
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karlp >
I've loaded similar images from uboot on other boards, with uboot in flash, but that shouldn't really make any difference should it?
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anarsoul|2 >
what about dtb?
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karlp >
I would have expected the kernel to start and then complain in that case?
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anarsoul|2 >
how would it know what machine it's running on?
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and what serial driver to use?
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karlp >
I'm prettttty sure that openwrt builds include an appended dtb, but I can check.
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has sunxi-fel and uboot changed spl versions again? the wiki has notes abotu version 1 vs version 2 incompatibilities, but i'm getting "found 0x3> maximum supported 0x02" and I'm running latest git from sunxi-tools
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ok, wonderufl changing it to v3 works... hopefully nothign else broke :)
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