<lekernel>
actually I emailed them about the registration details and fees, and the answer said "details are to be published later" (which they didn't) and that I had to note that such events were solely for "authorized persons"
<lekernel>
maybe just gatecrash
<lekernel>
sometimes it's surprisingly easy
<Fallenou>
to get access what do you basically need ?
<Fallenou>
to pay ?
<Fallenou>
to be from specific company?
<lekernel>
no idea :)
<Fallenou>
hum hum
<Fallenou>
it smells bad when nothing is explained :)
<lekernel>
pay synopsys licenses I guess
<Fallenou>
as if they wanted to advertise about it
<Fallenou>
but didn't want anyone to come
<lekernel>
that's how the asic business is
<lekernel>
very small world
<Fallenou>
or at least not someone not invited through some private channel
<lekernel>
very closed
<lekernel>
I'm not really surprised to see such behaviour
<lekernel>
and I wouldn't be surprised either if they had little security at the entrance
<lekernel>
even if there's a $3000 entrance fee
<Fallenou>
=)
<Fallenou>
anyway I won't be in London anymore in May
<lekernel>
usually this is paid for by rich companies who send their employees, and they don't really take into account curious individuals trying to get it
<larsc>
well, of course you can use it. just pay the patent fee ;)
<lekernel>
software (i'd even say math) isn't patentable in europe
<lekernel>
if people want to argue about that or to find ways around the patent's claims, they feel free, but I won't spend a split second on that
<lekernel>
anyway, the first versions of my placer will use simulated annealing. that's for later.
<Fallenou>
lekernel: after llhdl and antares, I guess you will need a bitgen clone, is it difficult to do ?
<lekernel>
moderately
<lekernel>
it'll probably be built into the antares tools anyway... it's simpler than re-reading XDL files
<lekernel>
kristianpaul: looks interesting that labsurlab
<kristianpaul>
lekernel: yeah it is :-)
<kristianpaul>
lekernel: i'l aleready spare a talk with dorkbot people about milkymist too
<kristianpaul>
already*
<lekernel>
:)
<lekernel>
"uso y abuso de un satelite militar yankee"
<lekernel>
lol
<kristianpaul>
;-))
<lekernel>
at least you're doing it properly, I've heard (but I don't know if it's true) that some people simply hook a varactor doubler to a hamradio TX
<lekernel>
this sounds like a lot of EM pollution
<lekernel>
without proper filtering...
<kristianpaul>
(hook a varactor doubler to a hamradio TX) oh yes, its true !
<kristianpaul>
There are lots of cases, one intentionals others not so, radio is really fun
<lekernel>
and what do you use for receiving?
<lekernel>
I mean, the "poor man's" solution like that one for TX :-)
<kristianpaul>
I dont know really, i just was told about what you pointed, but i bet another cheap radio and hackish atena will do the job.
<kristianpaul>
I can tell more about this after the labsurlab ;)
<Fallenou>
lekernel: seems we're not in gsoc this year again :x
<kristianpaul>
Why??
<rejon>
suck!
<rejon>
i just saw
<rejon>
aiki got turned down too
<rejon>
man!
<rejon>
i tried harder than normal
<rejon>
they have a lots of legacy projects they support now
<rejon>
fine, well, at least google giving money
<rejon>
that was the last time i will try gsoc for any project
<kristianpaul>
(legacy projects they support now)
<rejon>
i would rather have $$$ anyway
<Fallenou>
enlightenment was refused too
<kristianpaul>
not sound well
<kristianpaul>
what?
<Fallenou>
dokuwiki got accepted ...
<kristianpaul>
:-(
<Fallenou>
wordpress too
<rejon>
yeah, well, they paid fabricatorz today though
<rejon>
which is good
<rejon>
:)
<rejon>
my company they paid 4 months late
<lekernel>
as usual I guess they gave you no reason for rejection?
<kristianpaul>
I wonder if i bought i dual/quad cored cheap cpu sintesis speed will improve a bit..
<kristianpaul>
45 minutes waiting to confirm a _single_ change is PAIN
<Fallenou>
yes it is :(
<kristianpaul>
I bet that what more  encorage sebastien for start llhdl ;-)
<Fallenou>
AFAIK the synthesis process is purely mono threaded
<kristianpaul>
argh!
<Fallenou>
so you would not gain anything with N cores
<Fallenou>
Xst and all the toolchain uses only one core :(
<kristianpaul>
-_-
<Fallenou>
but the more you add cores the more you can do things in parallel without slowing down the synthesis :)
<kristianpaul>
hahag
<kristianpaul>
s/g/h
<kristianpaul>
nah
<kristianpaul>
i may add ram later for some experiments
<kristianpaul>
i'm happy with my single core
<Fallenou>
it could be great to have several server to do synthesis on them
<Fallenou>
you could test several changes at the same time
<Fallenou>
if you have like a 8 cores machine
<Fallenou>
you can put 8 virtual machines
<kristianpaul>
ah, servers..
<Fallenou>
and do 8 synthesis in parallel
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: tuxrandon have some GUI isnt? and VNC? i remenber
<Fallenou>
or just with some cp trick and without any virtualmachine :p
<kristianpaul>
no man two sintesis threas and my computer will burnout..
<Fallenou>
yes I meant on a server
<Fallenou>
with several cores :)
<kristianpaul>
:-)
<Fallenou>
and proper fans / heat sinks
<Fallenou>
it still won't improve the synthesis time
<Fallenou>
but can make it possible to test several changes in less time
<wpwrak>
kristianpaul: tuxrandon ? qu'est-ce que c'est ?
<Fallenou>
wpwrak: il ne parle pas francais je pense
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: i think it's the universal symbol of puzzledness ;-)
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: je ne parle francais
<Fallenou>
wpwrak: just say "wtfff ?"
<Fallenou>
it's more universal :p
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: turandot, sorry typo
<kristianpaul>
ah no
<kristianpaul>
no
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: fidelio !
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: also very good to convey early to students the complexity they'll face in the coming years :)
<Fallenou>
the complexity of what ?
<kristianpaul>
life?
<kristianpaul>
physics?
<kristianpaul>
:p
<kristianpaul>
s/software/gas
<wpwrak>
turandot sounds dangerous. "While working on Turandot, Puccini grew ill and died [...]"
<kristianpaul>
hahaha
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: the french language
<kristianpaul>
wpwrak: (french) but you speak spanish, the swich is not so _big_
<Fallenou>
I don't get it , is kristianpaul coming to study in france ?
<kristianpaul>
lol
<kristianpaul>
Not that i'm aware off  ;-)
<Fallenou>
ok :p
<Fallenou>
kristianpaul: a few minutes ago 4 spanish-or-assimilated guys just started following me on twitter
<Fallenou>
I guess it comes from you :p
<kristianpaul>
oh yes?
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: naw, don't you know the old song "psycho killer" (or the parody "psycho chicken") ? there, they also use "qu'est-ce que c'est" as a term of puzzlement in an otherwise english text
<Fallenou>
like "truequedigital" or "cartograsonoras"
<kristianpaul>
i dont know use twitter, just mirror microblof from identi.ca