<xiangfu>
aw: I don't know where to configure the desktop.
<aw>
xiangfu, me either.
<aw>
xiangfu, with xilinx tool, i think i can. but with 'jtag' tool i don't know.
<xiangfu>
aw: oh.
<aw>
is there anyone that tried to click "reboot" button successfully on Flicknoise 0.2 about 6 ~ 7 times then later serial/vga screen msg jumped into >BIOS shown as "No boot medium found"?
<aw>
then type cmd 'reboot' in serial console then M1 shows up normal control panel again? What possible reasons will cause it?
<wolfspraul>
aw: I think lekernel already mentioned those might be software bugs somewhere later in the bootup process. nothing to worry about for you, I think.
<wolfspraul>
of course I agree it would be better to fix it earlier, even if in software, so we know this is not something that is caused by a hardware weakness still.
<aw>
wolfspraul, okay..so it there somewhere that shows all happened bugs? i don't know yet..
<wolfspraul>
but if it doesn't fix into the software priorities at this time, maybe we can safely assume it's not something we need to worry about on the hardware side?
<wolfspraul>
I don't think so. Maybe this is a good task for xiangfu ?
<wolfspraul>
xiangfu - can you try to reproduce Adam's problem? After you can reproduce it, can you try to track it down/fix it?
<wolfspraul>
:-)
<wolfspraul>
maybe a bit too early/difficult right now, but if it's reproducible at least it's fun to go after an actual bug...
<aw>
yeah..because you know that we are not familiar with fpga s/w itself. if some somewhere records them then I can also search current status. well
<aw>
seems i have to record myself first.
<wolfspraul>
it's good that you are reporting strange things you see. we are aiming for a really stable and polished product.
<xiangfu>
wolfspraul: ok. I can try to reproduce the bug. but first I would like work on compile toolchain and rtems first :)
<aw>
the symptom on my site is easiler to reproduce it which i am not sure that maybe the M1 board h/w has been already haven something wrong in my  frequent "fast-power-cycling" before. so after I reflash with the new steps of 'jtag' tool, it can be easily shown on my board.
<aw>
so  later if xiangfu can not easily reproduce my same symptom. then I can know it's my board problem probably. :-)
<wolfspraul>
aw: no. that sounds excessive.
<wolfspraul>
let's see... The problem you have means that the m1 will not fully boot up, right?
<wolfspraul>
but the problem does not persist, i.e. you just need to power cycle again, and then it boots?
<wolfspraul>
you don't even need to reflash to make it boot again, just power cycle?
<wolfspraul>
let's assume that's the case. then - you are not tracking down a known or suspected hardware bug right now, or are you?
<aw>
wolfspraul, no, the symptom i described above is i tried to click 'Reboot' on s/w control panel. then later it jumped into >BIOS
<wolfspraul>
yes
<wolfspraul>
but then you just power cycle and it boots again, correct?
<aw>
then I typed 'reboot' under >BIOS then it can boot and shows up control panel...yes if later I power cycle and it boots again.
<wolfspraul>
ok
<wolfspraul>
that means the impact of the bug to the end user is very small, we have a very easy 'workaround' (simple power cycle)
<wolfspraul>
in addition, you are not currently tracing down any suspected hardware bug, or are you?
<wolfspraul>
so it's just a behavior (bug) you noticed, and reported (which is good).
<wolfspraul>
do you have a suspicion or idea how this could relate to something we can fix on the hardware/electronic/layout side?
<wolfspraul>
if not - just hand the bug over to xiangfu to reproduce and maybe fix, and forget about it :-)
<wolfspraul>
if xiangfu cannot reproduce it - no problem, not worth further investigations on your side, UNLESS you have a suspicion or idea how to fix it in hardware by yourself
<wolfspraul>
otherwise we get stuck with multiple people on problems of very little or no value
<aw>
hmm..i am not working on suspected h/w ...i just curious that trying to see if any reset signals from fpga when I tried to click more time on "Reboot" button...
<wolfspraul>
yes, exactly. so you have no suspicion you are tracing/following right now.
<wolfspraul>
that means - you hand the bug to xiangfu. but - whether xiangfu can or cannot reproduce it is not so important now, if he cannot reproduce it we just leave it sitting there.
<aw>
since I am going to do the patch on reversed polarity work, so meanwhile I played it for a while. :-)
<wolfspraul>
otherwise I feel we are hunting ghosts, and spending our valuable resources on that while we have far more valuable things that are totally open
<aw>
wolfspraul, yeah..okay
<wolfspraul>
definitely, it's good that you report anything strange you see.
<wolfspraul>
even if you just see it once, and then it goes away.
<wolfspraul>
but if xiangfu cannot reproduce, that doesn't mean it goes back to you for further investigation.
<wolfspraul>
if he cannot reproduce, that means we leave it sitting just like that.
<wolfspraul>
UNLESS you have independent idea of your own what you think a hardware cause might be. If you don't have such an idea, leave the unreproducible bug sitting there.
<aw_>
yeah~leave it sitting there now. :-)
<wolfspraul>
yes. this is just my thinking, let's see what lekernel says...
<Fallenou>
hi xiangfu
<Fallenou>
what is your Makefile for ? to compile the lm32 toolchain ?
<xiangfu>
Fallenou: yes.
<Fallenou>
ok nice :)
<Fallenou>
is it working ?
<kristianpaul>
nice mm1 case feedback from wolfgang :-)
<Fallenou>
sure
<kristianpaul>
xiangfu: hi !!
<xiangfu>
kristianpaul: hi
<kristianpaul>
wow i was thiking about you right now ;)
<kristianpaul>
is adam using last firmware?
<kristianpaul>
i read the backlog, but i just could not ask him..
<lekernel>
hi xiangfu
<xiangfu>
lekernel: Hi
<lekernel>
well, the different background is something to be expected and is totally normal :)
<lekernel>
don't worry about such details...
<kristianpaul>
:-)
<lekernel>
the app tries to load /flash/wallpaper.png and /memcard/wallpaper.png (in this order)
<xiangfu>
lekernel: ok. one thing. can you please setup a account on milkymist wiki :http://www.milkymist.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
<xiangfu>
lekernel: I would like username "xiangfu" :)
<lekernel>
and 0.2 uses the yaffs2 filesystem and cannot read the old flash files... therefore cannot load the previous background
<lekernel>
xiangfu: you can create an account now
<lekernel>
just tell me when it's done so I can disable it again