<wolfspraul>
lekernel: how many keys do you think are on the perfect m1 remote control?
<wolfspraul>
I mean 'buttons', not keys...
<lekernel>
those thinkpad laptops definitely do not deserve their reputation for quality. recompile gcc, and they overheat and shutdown ...
<lekernel>
plus broken bluetooth, broken touchpad keys, and I had to replace the hard disk and the battery too
<lekernel>
wolfspraul, 15-20 i'd say
<wolfspraul>
probably lenovo thinkpad already?
<lekernel>
yes
<lekernel>
t61p
<wolfspraul>
I don't think there is much quality difference between any of the OEMs, maybe except for Apple and some Japanese ones
<wolfspraul>
the rest is all the same, even made in the same factories :-)
<roh>
*hint* ..T60/T61 devices are >4/5 years now.
<roh>
means all other devices from that time are long gone and broken. but you still get spareparts. it shuts off if your fan is defective and doesnt cool enough.
<roh>
wolfspraul: all thinkpads were lenovo, even years before ibm let them take over.
<lekernel>
i've always had that problem
<lekernel>
from the beginning
<roh>
well.. then maybe your fan is broken or badly mounted. sometimes one badly trained one leaves the protective film on the fan unit (which includes a heatpipe and 2 more copper blocks with heat-transfer pads
<lekernel>
I fixed that crap 3 times already, adding more thermal paste
<lekernel>
it works for a couple of months then overheats again
<roh>
the point is: there is a manual, there are spareparts. that also differs them from others
<roh>
if you ADD paste it propably iss too much.
<lekernel>
well, scraping the old one ofc
<roh>
you shouldnt need any thermal paste beyond the cpu
<roh>
the gpu and soc ones should be fine with these pads
<lekernel>
they also have some pads which are getting old
<roh>
also the fan wears. if its getting loud and idle the machine has >50.0°C, its broken.
<lekernel>
nevertheless this is crap hardware
<roh>
buy a new one. costs about 40E .. i do the same all year or  so.
<roh>
lekernel: well.. if you believe so. i haven found anything better yet. lenovo got worse a tiny bit, and all other manufs havent got anything compareable mechanically anyhow.
<lekernel>
bluetooth breaking intermittently, battery dead after 1 yr, hard disk dead after 3 yrs, mouse button broken after 6 months, overheating all the time... well...
<lekernel>
the others are worse?
<roh>
i will swap my t60p fan soon also. (again) my machine still works and anything faster doesnt have faster io, so i dont care
<roh>
lekernel: overheating sounds like a 'badly manufactured/broken fan'thing, not a conceptual proble, (i have also such a machine which doesnt do that)
<roh>
all the rest is wear.
<roh>
beyond the battery. mine is 4 years old and still got 80%. panasonic cells. the sanyo are worse
<roh>
my guess is: your machine is dirty. bt is a module with a very small connector. its pressed on the pcb and should be held by 1 or 2 screws. if its loose  maybe. if not, there is some pcb breakage
<roh>
which means, your machine wasnt serviced properly or had endured some evil mechanic stress.
<roh>
making sure all screws sit tight is an important part of service. makes them live longer for years
<roh>
try removing the br module and check for dust in the conn.