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<pie_> anyone know if starlink could provide comms for cubesats? (awygle?)
<awygle> could, probably. i doubt they will though.
<pie_> aha.
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<sorear> the user terminal is larger than a cubesat
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<pie_> let me just take this staircase up to low earth orbit and get in front of this nice CRT
<kc8apf> They'll be a bit low and have their antenna aimed toward earth. Unlikely to be practical
<kc8apf> Systems like TDRS (https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/heo/scan/services/networks/tdrs_main) are designed for relay
<sorear> higher than the ISS
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<kc8apf> Sure. Beam angle becomes a major factor when you're really close though
<kc8apf> Hence why there are various relay systems in MEO and GEO.
<sorear> yes
<sorear> can you actually use any of those relay systems from a cubesat? financially
<kc8apf> I'd have to ask a former colleague who has used them in the past
<kc8apf> One thing starlink could provide is a GPS alternative
<sorear> does anyone think starlink is actually going to meet the FCC deadline for launching all 12,000 satellites
<kc8apf> Maybe. When we were designing Google's constellation, SpaceX had a path to having enough launch vehicles
<kc8apf> IDK how densely they can pack them in a dispenser for falcon
<kc8apf> Actually operating 12000 is a very different problem and I expect SpaceX to fail at that
<kc8apf> Conjunction planning becomes impractical to deal with individually
<Ultrasauce> how would starlink provide gnss without a significant increase in cost, complexity, mass etc for the satellites?
<kc8apf> They already need to know where each satellite is with high precision just to make the data links work
<sorear> do the satellites transmit time codes on multiple frequencies?
<kc8apf> It wouldn't provide quite the same positional accuracy due to less precise clocks
<kc8apf> But initial fix would be fast
<kc8apf> sorear: depends on exactly how they decided to implement the user links
<kc8apf> In that kind of constellation, satellites move overhead quickly so downlinks to a user need to be handed off continuously
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<kc8apf> You can solve that a few ways. Some are closer to a gnss than others
<kc8apf> Initially, the team that broke off from Google and went to SpaceX were concerned about data routing complexity. The team that understood that part stayed at Google.
<kc8apf> So they were looking at bent pipe models
<kc8apf> I've lost track of what they actually implemented
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<sorear> corporate siloing is the reason we can't have nice things
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<gruetzkopf> they seem to throw quite absurd numbers of linux machine at each sat
<gruetzkopf> idk if the current hw gen implements s2s links yet
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<lain> how do you pronounce "migen"
<Lofty> lain: rhymes with pigeon
<Lofty> MIlkymist GENerator
<whitequark> nmigen though you pronounce in any way that gets the name across
<whitequark> it's like qemu. not even people who work on nmigen can agree how it's pronounced
<lain> lol
<lain> well I defined one of my fpga boards as an nmigen platform, and I made some leds blink. progress.
<Lofty> I'll be honest, I lean towards a long I in "nmigen" (en-mai-gen)
<qu1j0t3> smidgen
<Lofty> "A smidgen of nmigen" would be a good name for a talk
<lain> ehehe
<qu1j0t3> :)
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<cr1901_modern> En-Mee-Gen (hard or soft "G" depending on the weather)
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<cr1901_modern> Inb4 GIF joke
<whitequark> i think i do en-mai-gen
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<agg> i definitely said 'mai-gen' for the old one so 'en-mai-gen' seemed obvious now
<awygle> en-mee-gen
<awygle> although n-midgeon might have been what i said if i saw nmigen before migen. migen looks japanese so i pronounce it that way.
<smkz> ミゲン
<smkz> ンミゲン
<rvense> qemu is pronounced with an arabic q: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgtWtDwMIhA
<awygle> i have never seen a word constructed like ンミゲン
<awygle> i suspect it's illegal
<awygle> call the kana police
<qu1j0t3> HAHAHAHA
<qu1j0t3> n1
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<anuejn> n-m-i-gen (nautic mile generator) ;)
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<Lofty> Non-maskable interrupt generator
<anuejn> Net Monthly Income generator
<anuejn> (hopefully)
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<pie_> not my incident generator
<qu1j0t3> :)
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