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<gruetzkopf> azonenberg: i'm _this_ close to 2*40GE in my laptop :D
<azonenberg> gruetzkopf: :D
<gruetzkopf> (and it'll have cost me under 40USD in parts, not counting the laptop)
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<tnt> Well that's disappointing ... "Final critical path: 44.4845 ns, Fmax: 22.4798 MHz"
<tnt> Either there is an issue with the timing data/analysis, or that EOS-S3 thing is _SLOW_ (like ... 3-4x slower than a up5k)
<Lofty> tnt: that looks really wrong
<tnt> Does it ? I have no idea what to expect tbh ...
<tnt> For reference this is a 24 bit counter blinking 3 leds ... longest path is through 8 consecutive luts (since there is no dedicated carry).
<Hoernchen> lol
<tnt> Lofty: do you have any idea of the speed this should operate at ?
* Lofty stares at the official timing dumps trying to figure out which cell is the logic cell
<tnt> TL-LOGIC but it's split into Q_FRAG (the FF part), the T_FFRAG (the top lut3), B_FGRAG (the bot lut3), F_FRG (the isolated mux at the bottom).
<tnt> (I think)
<Lofty> I feel like it's this
<Lofty> But it's not fun to decode
<Lofty> Okay, uh
<Lofty> This is fairly slow logic
<tnt> Damn :/
<Lofty> TAS2 -> CZ is 1.972ns
<Lofty> Worst case
<Hoernchen> so quicklogic is actually more like slowlogic?
<Lofty> Yep
<tnt> I guess that might be the last nail in the coffin for that chip for me :/
<Lofty> I don't think that's actually the worst number I've seen
<tnt> you mean in the S3 ? or that there are worse fpgas ?
<Lofty> But that's 33% slower than GW1N's worst case, and about 50% slower than UP5K
<Lofty> There are worse FPGAs
<tnt> I was hoping this chip would be sort of a miniature zynq but the programmable logic is too small, too limited and too slow for anything I'd find useful for me.
<etrig> ~.
<tnt> Anyone know how to get a timing report (like the actual path and each segment delay) out of VPR ?
<Lofty> If anybody knows, it's #symbiflow
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