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<andlabs> hm, I just realized
<andlabs> while looking at external cases, I started focusing on modding external cases
<andlabs> I did not yet consider *mounting* them
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<Foone> that's probably the easiest solution, if you have a case with at least 2 5.25" bays. those are actually getting hard to find these days
<Foone> sorry for not replying. I've not done any 3d printing of enclosures: there are some on thingiverse, but printing something that big is rare, and I didn't see any that did more than one drive
<Foone> the way I've done this in the past is by finding enclosures at junk stores that have at least 2 5.25" bays. for example, ones used by CD copiers
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<Stilett0> <Lord_Nightmare> Stilett0: didn't we find the datahseet or at least the chip type that creative labs used for the "ASP" on later sb16 and awe32 cards?
<Stilett0> Yes we did
<Stilett0> in here, from, uh, nemesis, in 2009: http://home.icequake.net/~nemesis/blog/index.php/archives/369
<Stilett0> identifies it. "T6 (SB16 and some specific AWE32) is the only card where the 'Advanced Signal Processing' 12 MIPS CSP chip (CT-1748) is available. This CSP is a ST18932 DSP core with 16K of program RAM and 8k of data RAM."
<Stilett0> which comes from an old USENET post
<Stilett0> which allegedly was sourced from SGS-Thomson themselves
<Stilett0> in 1993
<Stilett0> idspispopd sourced some programming manuals for the DSP core (or at least something in its series) back in 2013: https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=330085#p330085
<Stilett0> <Stilett0> <Sarayan> I don't think I've ever seen a yamaha external effects chip on arcade boards
<Stilett0> <Stilett0> I think someone had asked me to find a datasheet, something in the YSS series. Might have been someone from VOGONS circa 2002-2004 tho
<Stilett0> I searched my records and I was thinking of July 2002, when I had been looking into the YSS225 (EP) which was the Effect Processor accompanying the OPL4. I don't think this lines up with anything arcade in MAME but it does line up with the research work I was doing at the time at VOGONS for projects like VDMSound.
<Stilett0> I did end up sourcing the datasheet for the YSS225 from someone at Xilinx (weirdly enough) and the scan found online may very well originate from me :)
<Stilett0> Lord_Nightmare, a little more info from Cloudschatze is in this old QuestStudios thread: http://web.archive.org/web/20100129151304/http://queststudios.com/smf/index.php?topic=2421.0
<Stilett0> allegedly the ASP/CSP had its own Software Developer Kit from Creative, but I haven't found any evidence of that yet other than old memories at VOGONS
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<andlabs> Foone: heh, I was also trying to do it on a budget, but I guess I'll have tod rop cash after all
<andlabs> the rest of the fluxengine was very cheap
<andlabs> I also couldn't bring myself to break a working unit so I was looking for broken ones
<andlabs> and it turns out few people sell those
<andlabs> or those that do really just use "can't test it" as an excuse to say "not working"
<andlabs> thanks for that, ebay
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<Foone> if you just want the case and can supply your own power supply, I probably have at least one spare one in my storage. I can look next time I'm there
<Foone> Lord_Nightmare: anything change with the situation involving the action replay PC? I'd still love to get my hands on it to complete this reverse engineering effort.