ChanServ changed the topic of ##yamahasynths to: Channel dedicated to questions and discussion of Yamaha FM Synthesizer internals and corresponding REing. Discussion of synthesis methods similar to the Yamaha line of chips, Sound Blasters + clones, PCM chips like RF5C68, and CD theory of operation are also on-topic. Channel logs: https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/~h~yamahasynths
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<cr1901_modern> Indeed, we can always count on alva for kickass FM tunes
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<Lord_Nightmare> Foone: I heard you have beta commodore cdtv firmware... got dumps handy?
<Foone> I do not. are you thinking of ej5?
<ej5> i have it
<Lord_Nightmare> er, yeah ej5
<Lord_Nightmare> sorry
<ej5> not dumped yet. firmware is 2.0b1
<Lord_Nightmare> can you dump it from within kickstart?
<Foone> I don't have any amigas. you can tell this by the fact I'm not running the prevue channel 24/7
<Lord_Nightmare> ah
<Lord_Nightmare> i think that prevue thing requires an amiga 2000 or 3000 and video toaster for overlay, but it might not need the vt?
<ej5> i'm going to have to desolder them i think
<Lord_Nightmare> not clear
<Lord_Nightmare> ej5 if you undo that jumper that lets the 'normal' kickstarter run can it boot to amigaos, or no?
<ej5> hmm, true, i could do it from amigaos. the offset in memory is known
<ej5> no need for the jumper, you just put a disk in the (external) floppy drive and boot from that
<Foone> the overlay is just a genlock thing, I don't think it needs a full video toaster.
<Lord_Nightmare> also 28F010 eeprom/byte-level-flash chips have a finite floating-gate-cell charge life, so desoldering them and dumping them (and re-burning the existing beta code over top of itself in an eprom programmer) is probably a good idea
<Foone> and the emulator config for prevue is an amiga 500
<Lord_Nightmare> that way they'll be good for another 25 years
<ej5> yeah i'm thinking about that
<ej5> Foone, i may have an extra 500 i could probably hook you up with at some point
<Foone> that'd be cool
<Lord_Nightmare> ej5 if you added sockets to the two flash chips, is there enough 'room' for them to still fit if the board is re-mounted?
<Lord_Nightmare> or do you need to use buried pins or something to make extra room
<Lord_Nightmare> i.e. yanking 40 machined pins out of a machined pin socket, soldering the machined pins only into the board, and sticking the eeproms into that
<Lord_Nightmare> or similar
<Lord_Nightmare> there were pins meant for nearly flush 'sockets' in a mainboard, the early ibm 5170 motherboard uses them
<Lord_Nightmare> but i think they need wider vias
<ej5> yeah i know which you're talking about, i did some kickstart ROM adapter boards using the flush sockets
<ej5> the flash chip board is flipped so there might be enough room but i need to check
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<ZrX-oMs> Mmm, CDTV
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<cr1901_modern> Freenode seems to be having a normal one today...
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<ej5> Lord_Nightmare, what's the best way to get a binary to you?
<whitequark> cr1901_modern: 20:11 [freenode] -tomaw(tom@freenode/staff/tomaw)- :[Global Notice] Evening all. We need to reroute a bunch of servers so shortly you'll see lots of people quit and rejoin. It'll be noisey but fairly quick. I'll let you know when done via WALLOPS so /mode $yourNick +w if you want updates.
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