<Destined>
and am about to snap and lose it and just ROATPOROIDSIUSF
* Destined
doesnt know what to do besides the fact hes completely fucked in real life by insurance who basically said fuck you you cant get treated for pain, anxiety and everything else in the world thats ever happened to me
<p41nk1ll3r>
ty unreal
<Destined>
so now my chronic pain thats pushing me to the edge to the point where I want to give up and snap becuase its so bad I haent really worked in 2 years, is apparently my problem that I cant even get help for with insurance that I fucking pay for and barely can even pay for it, and i certainly cant afford to see the doctor out of pocket when i make no money
<Destined>
and it sounds like they are denying every single claim he sent in, which means I now owe him thousands of dollars
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<Cagey>
Hey everyone, anyone having trouble uploading projects to Poem@home?
<Cagey>
thanks customminer. Scheduled maintenance or otherwise? Any sign of when it will get back up?
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<Cagey>
I've been out of the loop for the last few days. My CPU cooler was crapping out on me. I couldn't run anything CPU-heavy without hitting 60C+ really fast.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on dc7d, Randomacts, aepksbuck, rvina, onkel_jim, Dashaiva, mainconcept, numb162, IRC_Brokenware, SvartH! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Cagey>
Got a new closed loop though that's keeping my CPU below 30 even at load with the GPU going full blast ;D. I forgot how well they're actually supposed to work when they work, haha.
<Cagey>
I'm a little sad that I have like a hundred tasks waiting to upload though... All my helpful work is going to waste.
<Chick3nman>
60C for wat CPU?
<Chick3nman>
Thats not high at all
<Cagey>
8350. AMD chips don't like to go higher than 60. 62 is considered maximum operating temperature.
<Cagey>
or thereabouts
<Chick3nman>
oh wow....
<Cagey>
intel chips can get to like 90 or something ridiculous. I can't imagine running anything that hot is very good for a processor.
<Chick3nman>
yeah mine can run up to 80C under extrene load without thermal throttle at all
<Cagey>
Regardless, I've got 8 physical cores at 4.2GHz and it's running at room temperature. I can't complain.
<Chick3nman>
95TJ max
<Chick3nman>
i have an i7 5960X at 4GHz
<Chick3nman>
8cores/16threads
<xXUnRealXx>
I had mine running at 85 when my cooling died, nothing wrong
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<Cagey>
AMD or Intel, unreal?
<xXUnRealXx>
intel
<Cagey>
Yeah, then you're probably safe. GPUs have a ~90C safe operating temperature but I wouldn't ever let mine hit near 80 without freaking out.
<Chick3nman>
thats funny that yours is 60 max. my Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition will run higher with no real issue.
<Cagey>
It runs just fine, it's not going to shut down or anything, that's just the "Oh shit" temp that the engineers say you shouldn't be hitting.
<Chick3nman>
most GPUs shouldnt run over 80C very long. it can cause damags over time. the VRAM will be much higher under load as well, even nornally
<Chick3nman>
ah ok
<Chick3nman>
VRAM on a GPU can be like 120C easy
<Cagey>
Even with the lower thermal headroom AMD chips tend to hit those super high clocks better.
<Chick3nman>
high clock != high speed/power though
<Cagey>
ah yeah, if you're cranking your multiplier your motherboard bits are going to get toasty probably faster than your CPU does
<Chick3nman>
yeah that too
<Cagey>
Yeah I'm not saying it does, I'm just saying that even with less headroom they get higher OC ratios.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Katiee's GRC Magnitude/Earnings Calculator
<Chick3nman>
i tend not to let any of my components over 70C if i can help it
<Chick3nman>
but it happens with certain loads
<Deviantone>
5930K OC'd 4GHz - 54c fully load
<Cagey>
I'm really happy with my setup right now. My PC was a wind tunnel before this new loop. This ASUS Fury has some of the best cooling I've ever had on a GPU.
<Chick3nman>
i was running a VRAM heavy operation and I couldnt keep my titan-x's below 78C no matter what. VRAM was a cool 110C :P
<Chick3nman>
yeah i had a 5930K
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<Cagey>
Is that Devil's Canyon?
<Chick3nman>
it was great but i upgraded to a 5960X
<Deviantone>
I luv it
<Bouowmx>
Your hardware: 2sexy4me
<Deviantone>
But more > better
<Deviantone>
:)
<Chick3nman>
lol
<Chick3nman>
i cant wait for Broadwell-E
<Chick3nman>
grab an upgrade to a 6950X
<Cagey>
All these people have Intel chips and I'm just here waiting for Zen
<Chick3nman>
fits same socket too
<Chick3nman>
10core/20thread
* Deviantone
drools
<Cagey>
Come to the dark side and get that 32 core monster tho
<Chick3nman>
my problem is clustering. if i could distribute my workloads efficiently between machines id be running a nice cluster
<Chick3nman>
but most of my stuff cant be run efficiently ob several machines without a lot of work
<Chick3nman>
hence the high power density.
<Chick3nman>
a group of lower power CPUs like sone older e5 chips would be great
<Chick3nman>
or just one newer one haha
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<Chick3nman>
i can technically fit an E5 2699 on my current socket however those are a few thousand each. much better to build several smaller machines at that price.
<Deviantone>
no doubt
<Deviantone>
a few thousand buys a lot of cores
<fkinglag>
MORE
<Chick3nman>
yup
<fkinglag>
CORES
<dyce_>
hopefully one it will will be 1 dollar per core :)
<Chick3nman>
lol
<dyce_>
will be
<Chick3nman>
lol
<fkinglag>
make a Pi cluster
<Chick3nman>
no
<dyce_>
pi zero cluster
<Deviantone>
quantum computing
<Deviantone>
cores won't matter
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<fkinglag>
Deviantone++
<fkinglag>
!tip Deviantone 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped Deviantone 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
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<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on jeamy, Tank-Master, SvartH, p41nk1ll3r, LazerFazer, tarasfo, Cartoonman, cbr, Chick3nman, VECCTOR! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<cbr>
i doubt itd be profitable on anything this side of a raspberry pi though
<cbr>
hmm now theres an idea lol I might stick one of my rpi's in the pool
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* cbr
pulls the plug on the pool with 1000 Raspberry pi's :)
<shaarad>
cbr you wanted to ask me something?
<cbr>
nope i was just replying to your thread and Peppernrinos answer, i dont think you can just have one machine in the pool on certain projects like gcf/wuprop
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<Peppernrino>
um
<Peppernrino>
you can have some in the pool and some out
<Peppernrino>
the pool doesn't give you a cpid
<Peppernrino>
VulcanJoo: if you are in the pool, it is supposed to say it. :)
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<Peppernrino>
you can have some in the pool and some out
<Peppernrino>
the pool doesn't give you a cpid
<Peppernrino>
shaarad ^
<shaarad>
It's not about the cpid bro
<Peppernrino>
ye it is
<Peppernrino>
-_-
<shaarad>
Why can't I add more machines in pool :(
<shaarad>
Is there some upper limit?
<shaarad>
Of machines in pool?
<Peppernrino>
no way
<shaarad>
Under one profile
<Peppernrino>
how many machines is it?
<shaarad>
7-8
<Peppernrino>
that doesn't sound too bad
<Peppernrino>
you must be missing something
<shaarad>
I have done the same process like 4-5 times
<shaarad>
And it worked flawlessly
<shaarad>
And now since 2 days it's not working
<shaarad>
Thing is, nothing is giving any error
<shaarad>
On the machine I am adding the account manager as this pool, logging in with my creds
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<shaarad>
When can I get hold of Katiee?
<shaarad>
I want to explain this to her once
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<VulcanJoo>
i am not in the pool. solo crunching
<VulcanJoo>
i got it figured out though
<VulcanJoo>
forgot to run wallet as administrator.
<VulcanJoo>
ty though
<shaarad>
How frequently are the payouts given in solo crunching?
<VulcanJoo>
no idea as i literally just got it working like 3 min ago
<shaarad>
Cool
<VulcanJoo>
i want getting POR rewards at all
<shaarad>
Congrats
<VulcanJoo>
wasn't
<VulcanJoo>
lol ty
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<numb162>
!pool balance
<KatBot>
Requesting GridCoin.co Pool balance..
<KatBot>
Pool's Current Balance is @ 3413.649921194 GRC
<numb162>
dayuummmm
<numb162>
gonna be a big payment
<VulcanJoo>
O_O
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on bob21, wolfi86, unattached, nepd, Tahvok, Tank-Master, moisesm123, Mumps, mentadent, BohemianCate! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
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<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by goku11 - Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
<goku11>
Poem@Home is not working right >.<
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<John-123>
can anyone look up when I timed out from irc last time (must've been in the last 2 hrs)
<goku11>
John-123 sorry, just got here
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on Anu3is, d_o_c, Juhzuri, cibban, VashTheStampede, dolganoff, Eaxo, SashaTheBOLD, alfredcl7, Wered! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
hi all again
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<goku11>
Hello WhitesoxCrypto
<Randomacts>
John-123, I'll try sec
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<Randomacts>
John-123, 1:44:36 (it is current ~3:38:00)
<John-123>
thx
<John-123>
it's interesting how chrome behaves lately...
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<Randomacts>
John-123, ? what does this have to do with chrome?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Katiee's GRC Magnitude/Earnings Calculator
<jahjah>
it finally updated
<jahjah>
afternoon everyone
<goku11>
4am here lol
<goku11>
I think BTC might be dying to ETH
<jahjah>
but btc is up?
<jahjah>
bought €367.4 sold for €371
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<jahjah>
xbt/eur is continuing on an uptrend
<jahjah>
it could peak @390euro
<goku11>
well BTC will still go up for a bit, but idk how much longer, they are running into hardware issues
<jahjah>
the devs?
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<goku11>
the miners
<goku11>
the hash rate is insane
<jahjah>
that's the whole point, they have a max of 21m btc total. it's released as a controlled supply with the most in the first 4 years
<jahjah>
once the mining supply runs dry the network will most probably rely on a banking system which allows you to have free transactions as you mine, you won't get a profit from mining but you'll not have to pay fees
<jahjah>
iirc this should be in #gridcoin-otc cuz it's about another coin
<jahjah>
:(
<CptFlashbang>
I think a big issue with cryptocurrencies is that it gets competitive quickly, requiring specialist or at least dedicated hardware, as well as the longer and more active a coin is- the longer the block chain becomes, making the miners for any given coin a select few who are really dedicated
<jahjah>
what happens when all of the coins are mined?
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<RTW93>
hi
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<Kaiok>
hullo
<aniolo>
hello does someone got a minute to help out connecting pool?
<John-123>
tell us what's the matter and you'll surely get an answer :)
<John-123>
I was trying to pool mine and missed one important step, fixed that and been mining for the pool since yesterday
<AnonymousBee>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<AnonymousBee>
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<AnonymousBee>
boooooooooooooooo
<AnonymousBee>
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammm
<John-123>
bees don't aaa baaa baaam
<AnonymousBee>
Beeeeeeeeeeeee is back :D
<AnonymousBee>
right but bees wings can make that sorts of noise :D
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by errand - 02/04/2016 13:59:08 | | Contacting account manager at http://pool.gridcoin.co/ - Pastebin.com
<errand>
and the boinc client doens't show the attached projects I added a couple of hours ago as a test (seti and asteroids), so it's like it isn't really synching
<tristanupsha>
Jesus, that's a lot. I didn't even receive anything and I want to thank you for the rain
<Sander96>
!tip aniolo 1
<GRCtip5>
Sander96 tipped aniolo 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<olithep>
earnt more hanging around here than i do from boinc projects lol
<aniolo>
thx! didnt ask for it though :)
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<Sander96>
If you had asked I wouldn't have given anything :P
<tristanupsha>
I'm starting to reach the tipping point for BOINC GRC earning more than being in here. (Just barely)
<aniolo>
i just need my acc manager fixed
<maokoto>
thanks!
<olithep>
im averaging 3grc payout from the pol
<CptFlashbang>
Is there any kind of rules regarding making a GRC casino? I might look at making one, with an initial pool setup from me and my friends, and when people lose to the house, every week or so a portion of it is distributed as rain in here, while keeping the rest to keep the house pool stocked
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<thurber>
there are no rules besides the law in your country
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<CptFlashbang>
Ok then!
<tristanupsha>
The question would be, how much GRC would the bot/server need to keep running?
<tristanupsha>
answer right now is... probably a lot
<CptFlashbang>
I suppose it depends upon the amount of users
<CptFlashbang>
I will look into the idea. I need to go and eat.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by olithep - GridCoin.co Pool (beta)
<TedFx>
I'm on mac, so probably not the best one to ask. I followed the available guides and eventually it worked for me...
<aniolo>
yeah client configured by the guide and site goes nothing
<aniolo>
ghost hosts :P
<olithep>
what do you mean by client?
<Sander96>
The pool is having issues right now I think, nothing we can do, except for going solo
<aniolo>
boinc workstations
<olithep>
ok, just checking
<aniolo>
ah okay
<aniolo>
though something wrong with me
<olithep>
should i cease projects on the pool?
<shaarad>
olithep, I was facing same problems
<shaarad>
am* facing
<olithep>
hmm maybe ill shut them down for now
<TedFx>
Waiting to receive my first POR. How can the timer stay at 2 hours for the last 2,5 ?
<shaarad>
TedFx you crunching solo?
<thurber>
the timer in the gridcoin wallet doesn´t work tedfx, it means nothing
<TedFx>
Shaarad yeah, Thurber when do I receive it then? :-)
<thurber>
what is your magnitude in the gridcoin wallet?
<thurber>
solo mining right?
<thurber>
ah solo I see
<TedFx>
Magnitude: 1.00. POR now 15 seconds :-S
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<TedFx>
It switches between Magnitude 1.00 and Magnitude 0.00 ??
<coinictus>
!balance
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
coinictus, please use /msg GRCtip balance as Tipbot will no longer respond to commands in channel except for !rain and !tip.
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<thurber>
If you keep the wallet open it should stop saying 0 after a while
<thurber>
1 is a bit low though, I guess you just started, mag is always lagging a bit behind
<thurber>
keep crunching to get it higher, expect payout within half a week or so
<aniolo>
afk
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on rvina, Tahvok, aem, alfabit, CryptoAi, Mithian, Payne2109, snakes_, ss7, bitempla! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
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<milkeater>
Has anyone been seeing any issues with Poem@HOME where they cannot upload?
<milkeater>
I have like 25 tasks that are stuck uploading
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<thurber>
I can´t even load their site so I think server problems on their side
<Kaiok>
I tried to add it earlier and it said it was currently unavailable so guess it's down for the moment
<milkeater>
I see
<milkeater>
Can that cause an issue if many people are stuck doing work (i.e. Could their be duplicate work?) or is it up to their server to hand out which tasks are completed?
<milkeater>
I see that the tasks do have deadlines
<thurber>
Won´t cause any issues if their servers are up before the deadlines
<Kaiok>
it would have had to hand out duplicates so that should be fine. I've heard the deadlines are more like...suggestions
<thurber>
but i wouldn´t crunch poem anymore until you know what is up
<milkeater>
Yeah, I've stopped accepting new tasks.
<milkeater>
Thanks thurber
<Kaiok>
it won't send you any new ones until it's up I imagine, but suspend the active ones maybe
<thurber>
^
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<milkeater>
It appears to be sending new ones as I have one that is only 20 minutes old, but this stuck status has been for a day or two.
<TedFx>
thurber Thanks, is it mandatory to keep the wallet open at all times-ish?
<Katiee>
ok guys, I added some more debugging to the pool's account manager RPC last night, appearently I uploaded the wrong file tho.. It's fixed now. If hosts still aren't showing up, then let me know. For whoever was getting that "[error] Inconsistent signing key from account manager", please make sure to use "http://pool.gridcoin.co" as the URL and NOT "http://pool.gridcoin.co/".. yes it does make
<Kaiok>
awesome, thanks Katiee, my laptop is finally showing up after a re-sync :D
<Kaiok>
lets see how a 3 year old i7 does compared to a 6 month old i3.
<thurber>
no need to keep wallet <TedFx>, in the long run it wont matter but in my experience the more my wallet is open the faster I got paid
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<TedFx>
okey dokey thurber, thansk
<d_o_c>
milkeater indeed :)
<moisesm123>
3 year old is that an Ivy Bridge?
<moisesm123>
Ivy Bridge are good :)
<moisesm123>
but Haswell is better
<moisesm123>
main difference is Haswell has AVX2 instruction set
<d_o_c>
Pool is fixed now? Good to hear.
<moisesm123>
so it runs better than Ivy Bridge, and also Haswell has better GPU than Ivy Bridge
<jahjah>
katiee, it's time to start a boinc-revolution
<jahjah>
force a coup
<Katiee>
trust me jahjah, nothing I can do/say will ever get the BOINC devs to fix their shit
<jahjah>
can't fix corruption :/
<jahjah>
-/s
<d_o_c>
Katiee > BOINC dev
<d_o_c>
<3
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<Katiee>
but yea, I found out last night that the host CPID isnt actually the real problem
<Katiee>
I actually fixed that over 3 months ago and just forgot about it..
<Katiee>
but now the problem is that project host IDs are actually changing for the people who are having the host issues..
<Katiee>
so not only are host CPID not unique and dont update correctly on the client, but also host ids can change for no reason
<Katiee>
so the 2 main things that BOINC uses to indentify hosts, are completely broken
<thurber>
sounds pretty good
<milkeater>
Saw what? That seems like a key base requirement
<Kaiok>
moisesm123: yeah, I think so. was a pretty good processor at the time at least. cpubenchmark reckons it scores higher than my current desktop
<Katiee>
at this point I'm not sure what I will be able to do, but I havent given up yet
<milkeater>
Are you they writing everything out to flat files, that feels like something so simple to maintain through a DB
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<Katiee>
there is no way for me to really detect when a host id changes. The client does treat host ids like it does with host cpids. with host CPIDs the client will track changes with a "<host_cpid>" and "<prev_host_cpid>", so if it ever does change, I can detect it. But that same is not done for host ids
<Katiee>
but the same*
<spassbold>
could you use host computer names?
<Katiee>
I've been manually observing, the host ids randomly changing on the project stats
<Katiee>
not all projects do it, but some
<milkeater>
Someone being malicious could choose to change their own host computer name quite easily
<Katiee>
spassbold, at this point, it seems host names would be way more unquie of a thing then the fucking host ids and cpids.. which is REALLY sad..
<Katiee>
but I don't think I can rely soley on just that
<Katiee>
I dunno, we will see, I've added some more debugging to track the issue better, so I'll see what else I can dig up before trying a solution
<spassbold>
ok but it would be a worst case working solution no?
<spassbold>
users give their host names and when three is a duplciate you say: change your computer name or you cannot register
<spassbold>
which is bad
<spassbold>
but the pool as a whole would still work
<spassbold>
or am i wrong with something?
<Katiee>
i can get the host name automatically, I already save them to the database
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<spassbold>
ok
<spassbold>
so when someone registers and their host name is already taken
<spassbold>
say "you cannot register with this host name, you need to change it with an explanation how to!"
<spassbold>
far from perfect but imo the most impoirtant thing is to keep the pool working
<spassbold>
just for worst case
<spassbold>
but maybe you can find something out that is much better than that :)
<Deviantone>
I thought the host cpid was the way to track the shifting host id's
<Deviantone>
hashed with the email
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<Katiee>
Deviantone, I've never heard anything like that?
<Deviantone>
Im checking my thoughts ..
<Deviantone>
of internal cpid vs. host ID
<CoinFlare>
The BOINC host ID system was only ever meant to weakly identify hosts - it would be up to external entities to create stronger links over time
<CoinFlare>
Same with CPIDs
<spassbold>
CoinFlare how could Katiee create stronger links over time?
<CoinFlare>
The system worked too well that people simply takes it for granted now
<Deviantone>
Yeah.. reading that now. Neither is solid
<Deviantone>
internal cross-project ID, which is the MD5 of the concatenation of its domain name, IP address, free disk space, and a timestamp
<Katiee>
which is false
<Katiee>
actually
<Deviantone>
so ^ can change with something like an IP change
<CoinFlare>
If you store the CPID history you should be able to get a bit closer
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<Katiee>
older projects do not use any of that
<Deviantone>
and here are two ways host id's get fucked
<Deviantone>
Prevent two computers from having the same ID when a volunteer clones their BOINC data directory;
<Deviantone>
Avoid creating duplicate host records when a host loses its ID (e.g. because its client state file is deleted).
<Katiee>
which is also false
<Katiee>
on older projects
<Katiee>
at least
<Deviantone>
even if not false
<Deviantone>
there is no panacea
<Deviantone>
both have unreliability baked in
<Sander96>
So we do not know what changes a HOST id on older projects?
<Deviantone>
just under differing circumstances
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<shaarad2>
Hi Katiee
<shaarad2>
The issue seems to be fixed for me now
<shaarad2>
:) :)
<shaarad2>
thanks a lot
<shaarad2>
Just out of curiosity, what was the issue?
<Deviantone>
see shaarad2 we told ya Katiee would get you fixed up
<Katiee>
i dont know
<Katiee>
i dont even really know what ur issue was lol
<Deviantone>
she's awesome in physical form
<Deviantone>
static fingers
<Deviantone>
just your presence fixes stuff
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<shaarad2>
hehe thanks Katiee :)
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<Katiee>
but last night I added some debugging code to the RPC. But I appearently uploaded the wrong file.. I uploaded the beta version I have been working on (which doesn't fully work yet). I uploaded the right file about 30 mins ago. So I guess that fixed whatever issue you had.
<shaarad>
hehe
<shaarad>
Happens
<shaarad>
I've been working on web service for 6 months now
<shaarad>
so I know :)
<Deviantone>
I don't know if these are options, but I just read WCG uses an alternate method to identify hosts
<Katiee>
I had to get up at 3am for work this morning, and I was working on the pool till midnight x.x So I must have spaced out when uploading my final changes lol
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Deviantone - Host identification and merging - BOINC
<Deviantone>
bottom
<Deviantone>
that sounds more project side as I think about it
<CoinFlare>
That's very project side - it is about merging hosts through the web interface
<Katiee>
yea that was kinda the idea I had for a solution, I just dunno how well it will translate with the actually stat tracking from the project sites themselves
<Katiee>
actual*&
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<Katiee>
CoinFlare, its still pretty revelent for the pool too.
<Katiee>
or account managers in general
<Kaiok>
today is the day of booting up all my devices and getting them on the pool. are there any boinc android apps that can use the pool? tried the first 2 but no luck
<Katiee>
an account manager is basically just a project
<Katiee>
the RPC stuff is very similar
<Gary760>
Katiee I'm getting an error in my BOINC client log when connecting to the pool: [error] Inconsistent signing key from account manager
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by spassbold - Content type:
<Katiee>
ive decided to put the pool rewrite on hold.. since appearently the issue is much more complicated then I first thought. So for now I will be focusing on debugging the hell out of everything x.x
<spassbold>
KAtiee could you also edit the tutorial a little bit that newbies do not make the mistake of not removing projects/not giving the pool their address?
<Katiee>
yea ill do that too
<CoinFlare>
<- One of the guys who made the that manages host IDs and CPIDs. If we had known back then how popular it would become then the ID space would have been bigger to avoid conflicts. It was just a really hard problem to solve properly because the premise was the it had to be "kinda p2p"
<CoinFlare>
the code*
<Katiee>
hm?
<CoinFlare>
Just saying that the whole CPID stuff wasn't meant to be totally stable over a lot of time
<Katiee>
your a BOINC dev CoinFlare? O.o is that what ur saying?
<Sander96>
That's pretty cool
<Sander96>
Or he used to be a boinc dev
<CoinFlare>
Used to be, yup - back in 2005 when the CPID stuff was written to enable stats sites
<Gary760>
I spoke too soon. it looks like it's cleared up.
<CoinFlare>
David (the main guy) didn't want a central solution to identification because he (rightly so) wasn't sure that BOINC funding would be everlasting from the uni
<Sander96>
ah
<Katiee>
yea I get that, I respect the "p2p" soluation
<CoinFlare>
So the CPID system was invented to try to make projects "agree" on an identity for hosts
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<Katiee>
but what i dont understand, account CPIDs seem to work just fine, but why don't host CPIDs
<Katiee>
they should work in the same basic way, no?
<CoinFlare>
Not quite
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<CoinFlare>
There is also the problem that there are a lot more hosts than accounts
<Katiee>
yea
<CoinFlare>
So sometimes you get collisions
<Katiee>
I think the biggest problem is that projects never update their server code x.x
<CoinFlare>
Agreed =)
<spassbold>
how could katiee work around these collisions?
<Deviantone>
It was a rough start for all identifying hosts
<Deviantone>
look at the early days of MS activation for Windows
<Deviantone>
trying to peg a host to a license
<Deviantone>
so many variables
<Katiee>
There is just no way I can use host CPIDs at all. I'm finding completely different users, with the same host CPIDs
<CoinFlare>
@spassbold, Dunno, I'm not sure what the discussion was about - joined midway =
<Katiee>
from the project sites themselves
<spassbold>
the problem is basically that the pool has to be able to uniquely identify each host
<spassbold>
so that it knows exactly which host has done how much work and that the users this host belongs to gets the accurate payout
<Katiee>
so I stopped using host CPIDs months ago, and switched to project IDs and hostIDs (the host ID in that project). So for example, lets say my whitelist table has an ID of 7 for seti. I use 7 + the user's host ID (in SETI) as the key. That worked fine up until a few weeks ago, when I got +300 more people in the pool.
<Katiee>
now I'm finding the some projects will just randomly change a host's ID
<CoinFlare>
Right, the host ID within a project is unique but may increase at any time
<Katiee>
which causes all sorts of database issues
<Katiee>
Yea I was not aware it could just increase like that. The BOINC wiki says it will ONLY change if the user's copies over his client_state.xml to another host
<Mumps>
I'm not sure I understand your problem Katiee. There has to be something in the hosts.xml that ties all this stuff together for external stats sites...
<Katiee>
I dunno why I still believe their wiki..
<CoinFlare>
The ID increases whenever something goes wrong. The user can even trigger it from the UI with "Reset Project"
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Mumps - Content type: text/html
<Mumps>
If the rpcid from a client request doesn't agree with the server side version, yes a new cpid should get generated for the host.
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<Katiee>
"On a given host, it changes only in the rare case where a user copies state files from one computer to another; in that case, one of the two computers is assigned a new ID after its next scheduler RPC. "
<CoinFlare>
If a host is reset (and lost its file storage for instance) then it also loses its CPID and ID. A new ID + CPID is generated and the host can continue
<CoinFlare>
In a few cases the server can regenerate the info and set up the host as it was originally, but the Wiki really makes it sound like that always happens, it doesn't
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<fkinglag>
good morning GRC world
<fkinglag>
!priceall
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<CoinFlare>
And to add even more fun: your account CPID can change too - for instance if you change your email
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<Katiee>
So basically, on the wiki, "On each account manager RPC, for each reported project, look up (user ID, project ID, DBID) in the host table (where 'DBID' is the one passed in the RPC request). If no record is found, create one. In any case, update the record with the CPID from the RPC request.", that is indeed NOT a good way of doing it..
<Katiee>
because that is actually what im doing..
<Katiee>
exactly*(
<Mumps>
"Not a good way" and "Intern developers doing college projects" go hand in hand... :)
<Katiee>
well I guess I'll be spending my weekend trying to create my own work around then x.x
<Katiee>
the debugging code I added last night should at least help me. Anyways I need to AFK for a bit, I'll be back later. Thanks for talking me thru this CoinFlare ♥
<CoinFlare>
Yeah well the basic gist of it is that whenever something messes up the host will appear as new - sometimes the old data gets merged into the new host but mostly projects don't care at all and just let the old info sit around.
<CoinFlare>
Np, and sorry for not being able to make a better system =)
<Mumps>
So, the host cpid and the project specific host_cpid are stored in different sections of the client_state.xml. The hostid is an attribute on the <project> sections versus the host_cpid being in the <host_info> section
<CoinFlare>
Also be careful about internal vs external cpids - the internal one (used inside a project) is hashed again before being exported in stats files in order to avoid people intentionally taking someone else's CPIDs
<Mumps>
Not sure what the Pool Manager gets access to, but that host_cpid should in theory stay the consistent cross project value.
<Mumps>
The host_cpid is included in the sched_request*.xml on each host for each project.
<CoinFlare>
Yes, the important part is "eventually" =)
<d_o_c>
You deserve a little bit freetime Katiee.
<CoinFlare>
The host may need to contact all the projects in which it is involved multiple times before all the CPIDs settle
<CoinFlare>
You can have a host connected to A and B, and another host connected to B and C and still have the early CPID from project A travel all the way to C once both hosts have contacted the projects enough times.
<Mumps>
Correct.
<Mumps>
The way the cpid propogates is the older of the two always wins.
<Mumps>
If the project cpid is older, it get's pushed down to the host and the time-stamp updated on the host.
<CoinFlare>
Funny fact: if an even older project is now added to the mix then THAT project can have a "better" CPID which will then travel to all of them. This confuse the heck out of people - especially when they rejoin old projects after not having used them for years
<Mumps>
So, the best way to fix a split cpid is to add your oldest (still functioning) project to a host with all the other projects that don't agree and hit update to the old project, wait a little for the rpc to complete, then hit update on all the other proejcts.
<CoinFlare>
Indeed so - if you can still get to all the projects, that is. Some of the really old ones are now defunct
<Mumps>
Right, but then you'll never got that cpid to spread to the rest. That's why you keep things in sync and only have to rarely resort to repairs. :)
<Mumps>
It really only happens if you add a project you are creating a new account on as the first project on a host.
<Deviantone>
that's a lot cleaner than my past method of fixing splits
<Deviantone>
lots of cursing
<Deviantone>
various actions
<Deviantone>
until it works
<Deviantone>
lol
<CoinFlare>
=)
<Mumps>
If you have something like WuProp that you always add first to a new host, then things stay clean.
<Deviantone>
no wonder Willy has such a winning personality on boincstats forums sometimes
<Deviantone>
managing this will drive you batshit
<Deviantone>
across thousands of hosts
<CoinFlare>
He's a nice guy, he knows where this all started, even went to some of the dev meetings
<Deviantone>
Oh I give him props
<Deviantone>
what a complicated mess he keep running pretty well
<Deviantone>
as well as one should expect
<Deviantone>
but no doubt its maddening sometimes
<Deviantone>
but even on boinc stats hosts can split
<Deviantone>
mine have for example
<Deviantone>
I had duplicate host for a bit, one said it never checked in but reported daily credit
<Deviantone>
the other said it checked in daily, but had no credit
<Deviantone>
but it tracked them both, and after 30 days or whatever I could delete the old host
<Deviantone>
and they merged
<Deviantone>
All I know is I have even more respect for Katiee as she tackles this
<Deviantone>
especially if she finds a 'set it and forget it' method
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<TedFx>
How much is the withdraw fee?
<CoinFlare>
For the tip bot?
<TedFx>
uh-huh
<CoinFlare>
You can ask it
<TedFx>
Hey tip bot, what's your withdraw fee?
<TedFx>
Like that? :-p
<TedFx>
!help
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
TedFx, sending commands via PM.
<CoinFlare>
Message it directly and do !help
<TedFx>
ok thanks, Coinflare
<CoinFlare>
No problem
<fkinglag>
I think the fee is teeny
<d_o_c>
0.02 GRC
<Mumps>
According to help. :)
<Mumps>
(min withdrawal amount is 1 GRC with 0.02 GRC withdrawal fee)
<Sander96>
I thought it was 0.1
<Mumps>
Interesting. Just doing some research here and a host I have running under multiple usernames has multiple host_cpid's.
<Mumps>
In the past I'd seen otherwise.
<Katiee>
I'll find a way, I have to. I don't want to turn into Willy :<
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<Mumps>
A different unique cpid per username. So I wonder if that's a code update that they put into newer boinc serverside code...
<Sander96>
#pray4Katiee
<Katiee>
yea Mumps, host cpids do not work the same as account cpids
<Mumps>
Right, but like I said, I've researched this in the past and my hosts I'm running projects on for others still *used* to show all the projects on one host_cpid...
<Mumps>
So my guess is the newer serverside code may have changed the rules I'm used to sometime in the last 2 years. ;)
<Mumps>
I also have a project I'm on that is reporting "generating new cpid" every time my hosts contact it and it always generates the *same* "new" cpid... :)
<Katiee>
thats basically the main issue the pool is having, older projects are the one causes the most problems. I believe if all the projects used the newer server code, this wouldn't be an issue
<Mumps>
Good luck on that campaign Katiee :)
<Katiee>
yea well there is also a problem with the BOINC client not updating the local copy of the CPID
<Katiee>
I've seen a project report a new host CPID to the client, yet the local xml file is never updated
<Mumps>
And Yafu, which is one of the few that accept using CreditNew has total crap for credit calculations. :)
<Katiee>
thus when it does an RPC to the pool, it still has the old cpid
<CoinFlare>
Actually, when the code repository switched to git some of the old SVN lines were left in there. The right way to check the version is on the server status page
<Gary760>
nice ty
<Mumps>
Maybe not. That's a common include to GCF and that's the same version.
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<frank0051>
!usd
<Mumps>
Right, but many of the server status pages don't report the server version.
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
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<Peppernrino>
hi
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<dc7d>
!priceall
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<Peppernrino>
anybody taht is fighting this is just pissed off/jealous that they spent so much time and energy on something that appears to be as flawed as fiat in the end... if for different reasons.
<cbr>
yeah its massively benefited lesser known projects. I only crunched seti from 1999 to 2005 and have now started more just for mag !
<Peppernrino>
ie - btc wastes energy
<cbr>
agreed
<Peppernrino>
it's a damn good idea...
<Peppernrino>
and we probably wouldn't be here without its inception..
<Peppernrino>
but its time has come...?
<cbr>
yep once i saw the banner in boincstats whats what drew me in
<Peppernrino>
me too
<Peppernrino>
funny thing is, i joined boinc the same time gridcoin started
<Peppernrino>
i could have been here the whole time. :(
<cbr>
I joined boinc before it was created :) seti legacy credit got transferred to boinc
<cbr>
i was about 168 in the world on seti a few years back
<Peppernrino>
i've known about it for a long time, but no one ever had the "time" tpo show me how to use it.
<Peppernrino>
i'm glad i'm not like that.
<Peppernrino>
my greatest accomplishment is SIMAP
<cbr>
gridcoin has changed that but for the benefit of other projects from my crunching
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<Peppernrino>
258 in the world for simap, and then they shut it down
<cbr>
I still go about 50/50 on seti/other projects
<Peppernrino>
6 in canada
<cbr>
thats annoying
<Peppernrino>
i cxan't wait to get my network board!
<Jonbvn>
Since the "reddit weekend" GRC users have increased significantly. This makes GRC much more credible in the eyes of project scientists and overall must be good for science. In the longer term the amount of GRC we earn will drop, but the value of GRC will be that much higher. Overall exciting times
<Peppernrino>
i'm going to run seti on the gpu
<cbr>
I think Im about number 7 in the uk on asteroids and I only added it 2 months ago
<Peppernrino>
computing power of BOINC has increased by at least 10% since the reddit campaign
<Peppernrino>
i edited the boinc wikipedia page...
<cbr>
same here my gfx cards all run seti
<Peppernrino>
not me
<Peppernrino>
i run a mix of einstein, milkyway, gpugrid, and moo!
<Jonbvn>
BOINC or GRC?
<Peppernrino>
i used to do collatz but moo has better science imo
<Peppernrino>
jonbvn, i SADI boinc. :P
<Peppernrino>
SAID
<Peppernrino>
lol
<cbr>
was thinking of milkyway gpugrid and collatz
<Peppernrino>
from 10 petaflops to 11
<Jonbvn>
I know but 10% of BOINC is a lot
<Peppernrino>
i KNOW.
<Peppernrino>
so why is everybody still fighting it?
<Peppernrino>
amirite?
<Jonbvn>
Where is that info from ?
<cbr>
i tried burp for massive mag but it never has any work
<Peppernrino>
BOINC
<Peppernrino>
i told you, i edit the wikipedia
<Jonbvn>
U got a link?
<cbr>
not sure anyone is fitghting it ?
<Peppernrino>
except for that fucking asshle that deleted all my hard work... that guy does too
<cbr>
oh
<cbr>
report him to his isp ?
<Peppernrino>
many people in the existing teams are PISSED.
<cbr>
and wiki ?
<Peppernrino>
they are calling it unfair incentive etc
<cbr>
thats bu11$hit
<Peppernrino>
jonbvn: you don't know where to find boinc..?
<WhitesoxCrypto>
aftersoon gridsters
<Peppernrino>
hm
<Jonbvn>
LOL - where is that data on the 10 to 11 petflops
<GRCtip5>
Usage: !rainactive <amount> [max active users]
<cbr>
!rainactive 3.8 10
<GRCtip5>
Usage: !rainactive <amount> [max active users]
<cbr>
!rainactive 3 10
<GRCtip5>
Usage: !rainactive <amount> [max active users]
<Peppernrino>
spaces...
<cbr>
!rain active 3.81222448 10
<WhitesoxCrypto>
two spaces after rainactive
<GRCtip5>
Usage: !rain <amount> [max users]
<cbr>
!rain active 3.81222448 10
<WhitesoxCrypto>
also before amount
<GRCtip5>
Usage: !rain <amount> [max users]
<Peppernrino>
*less spaces
<cbr>
!rainactive 3.81222448 10
<GRCtip5>
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<Peppernrino>
lmao
<cbr>
at last
<WhitesoxCrypto>
now
<CoinFlare>
=)
<WhitesoxCrypto>
lemme understand that Peppernrino
<moisesm123>
ty
<tr0nic>
thx
<WhitesoxCrypto>
rainactive in the set amount of time, no??
<Peppernrino>
?
<WhitesoxCrypto>
so last 10 minutes...
<cbr>
so back to my question can everyone add to the faq to find its way to the bot ?
<WhitesoxCrypto>
but I didn't get included...
<Peppernrino>
rainactive is - just joined room, said something, or did an action
<WhitesoxCrypto>
not that I mind a lot...
<Peppernrino>
sometimes you just get missed. :P
<WhitesoxCrypto>
so it should have included me...
<MiXa1972>
щзы
<WhitesoxCrypto>
oh, so it's something "personal" lol
<MiXa1972>
ops
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<MiXa1972>
lol
<Peppernrino>
if there is 50 actives, and i only choose 20, it's luck of the draw.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
oh, ok
<WhitesoxCrypto>
of course..
<WhitesoxCrypto>
lol
<WhitesoxCrypto>
so max amount of users nottime, my bad...
<Peppernrino>
*AND time
<Katiee>
cbr, it wouldn't automatically add new stuff to my bot, since I don't think wiki really has APIs I could use for something like that. But I just think we should use the wiki for compiling guides and faqs, etc
<Katiee>
I'd manually put them into my bot
<Katiee>
TBH we need to really push and advertise the wiki more
<CoinFlare>
!wiki
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<cbr>
yep np
<Peppernrino>
true
<maokoto>
wow
<cbr>
maybe a !wiki link in the bot as well ?
<Katiee>
sure
<CoinFlare>
That's my point =)
<Peppernrino>
i didn't even really know it existed until i edited the nodes...
<Katiee>
I think we need a wiki link on gridcoin.us
<Mumps>
Maybe add it to the "Topic" line here?
<Katiee>
like its owns link
<Peppernrino>
the !wiki link is a good didae
<Peppernrino>
then we only get oddball questions
<cbr>
same here Peppernrino I spent abot 6 weeks getting it running from advice in the channel and searching google
<Katiee>
currently the wiki link is under "Community" on the site
<Peppernrino>
idea*
<Tarvok>
It's weird how my mining transactions are listed as if they are my previously used tips and faucets.
<Katiee>
I really think we needs its own link, not just under one of the sections
<Peppernrino>
^
<cbr>
getting the right advice from people here is better than the wiki but a publicised and easily found wiki would help
<Peppernrino>
some of the stuff grouped in community ... shouldn't be there...
<Katiee>
not everyone will use IRC
<Katiee>
everyone would use a wiki heh
<cbr>
Katiee agreed
<Peppernrino>
yep
<Peppernrino>
for some, the irc wil be a boon
<Peppernrino>
for others, it's just another thing to install..
<Mumps>
Sure, not everyone shows up here, but if those that did got a wiki reminder, the question may be fewer...
<Peppernrino>
yes
<Katiee>
I'll make a note to add !wiki and !wiki <topic>
<Katiee>
or !wiki search
<Peppernrino>
for the tabs...
<Katiee>
tabs?
<Peppernrino>
was thinking like navigate through the tabs on the wiki... but once they're there, it won't matter anyway
<Peppernrino>
!wiki getting started
<Peppernrino>
eg
<Peppernrino>
or just !wiki for main page
<cbr>
good ideas Katiee
<Peppernrino>
or !wiki could pm you links to all the relevant pages.
<cbr>
Anywau back to my 2 unansewered questions lol can anyone add to the wiki ?
<jahjah>
could you make !wiki (text terms) search the wiki for those terms
<Peppernrino>
Contents
<Peppernrino>
1 Getting Started Https;//....
<Peppernrino>
2 Gridcoin Wallet Information Https;//....
<Peppernrino>
etc
<cbr>
y
<Peppernrino>
yes cbr, make an account. :D
<cbr>
ok ta
<Peppernrino>
ta
<cbr>
I'm also cyberkev1 btw
<cbr>
only just got my proper cbr nick registered on here lol was cbrrr for a while
<Peppernrino>
duh
<cbr>
but at work im cyberkev
<Peppernrino>
i hate you, remember?
<Peppernrino>
but you're smart
<Peppernrino>
and you DO rain stuff back
<Peppernrino>
like you said you would
<Peppernrino>
so i'm cool
<Peppernrino>
<3
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<cbr>
yes i remember well I'm an evil penny farmer for boing in gridcoin-iirpg sending coins to myself
<Peppernrino>
mhm
<cbr>
but I did repent ans only have one in there now !
<Peppernrino>
i'm working on a way that i won't have to hold that against anyone any more
<Peppernrino>
lol
<cbr>
Did you spot what i said earlier about pool loopholes ?
<Peppernrino>
when i was considering how to fight this malady... i decided you're pretty much the person that has to help me.
<Peppernrino>
keep your enemies closer
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<Peppernrino>
and no
<Peppernrino>
what is the matter with the pool?
<cbr>
Burn your bridges behind you, you never know who might be trying to follow (Emabran tain of the obsidian order)
<cbr>
ok pool.
<Katiee>
!restart
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<cbr>
there is an algorithm
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<cbr>
so if you have a load of thin gridoin accounts on multiple hosts
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Content type: unknown
<Peppernrino>
:D
<Gary760>
!help
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Gary760, sending commands via PM.
<Katiee>
who updates the gridcoin.us site? I can never remember.. caraka or customminer? xD
<cbr>
Peppernrino, you see my point on the pool thing ? if the payouts are equal through the algorithm it doesnt matter if you are running 1000 vms under separate accounts you will still have no resources in the pool compared to others
<shaarad>
cbr
<Peppernrino>
i'm not allowed to think abou tit yet
<cbr>
depends on the algorithm admittedly
<shaarad>
can you suggest me some lightweight projects to run on my Androids?
<Katiee>
oh, you are talking about the pool faucet page..
<Peppernrino>
my gf is telling me about snoop vision lol
<Bouowmx>
I am interested in computing using an Android GPU but I heard there was some issue with Android OpenCL
<Bouowmx>
Am I correct?
<cbr>
shaarad i run seti and asteroids on my android
<cbr>
and wuprop and gridcoin finance
<cbr>
i let the phone decide which of the4 4 cores it wants to throw the resources at
<Gary760>
I run OET on WCG and wuprop
<shaarad>
aren't they heavy?
<shaarad>
gridcoin finance says there are no tasks
<shaarad>
for my android
<Gary760>
OET takes about 15 hours on my LG volt
<shaarad>
is wuprop good?
<shaarad>
but are there good returns for wuprop? if I run it on say 2 Androids?
<Gary760>
Im only running 2 of my 4 cores
<cbr>
asteroids on the phone works ok but it's never going to be like even a slow pc or gpu
<cbr>
dunno yet i only started on my phone 5 days ago
<cbr>
just an experiment
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<shaarad>
Okay
<Gary760>
wuprop take 6 hours on mt LG
<shaarad>
I have a spare Android that's bored
<cbr>
gridcoin is all aboung patience making a change and see what the result is after a few weeks
<shaarad>
ya really
<cbr>
about
<shaarad>
Till now I am throwing all my resources at Enigma@home
<Peppernrino>
nice
<cbr>
thats a good choice for cpu only
<cbr>
considered it myself
<shaarad>
And I have got one question about wallet,..there is some beacon payment that goes from wallet right?
<cbr>
but i'm after thomas on asteroids first :)
<shaarad>
haha that 100K RAC
<shaarad>
congrats for that
<Peppernrino>
i like the idea of it, but i think curing cancer is way more inportant than finding out what some dicks said to each other 70 years ago
<Peppernrino>
cool cryptography though
<shaarad>
that's right Peppernrino
<cbr>
or curing diseases
<shaarad>
which project you run for cancer research?
<Peppernrino>
wcg
<Peppernrino>
mapping cancer markers
<cbr>
or mindmap
<Peppernrino>
tornto-based!
<shaarad>
let me see
<cbr>
maybe we should just concurrently run all the projects more beneficial to the future of the human race
<Peppernrino>
ebola will be finished their 1st pahse in june!
<cbr>
we are all agreed. Maybe we can create a petition to get Rush to promote Gridcoin at the next tour :)
<cbr>
dinner, back laters
<Tarvok>
Best candiaian exports: comedians.
<shaarad>
WCG isn't connecting on BAM, Peppernrino
<shaarad>
suggest some other project
<Gary760>
Triumph also rocks.
<shaarad>
on BAM it says no response from project when I tried creating an account
<Peppernrino>
...maple syrup, mike myers, jim carrey, beneath the massacre, boys night out, choke, propagandhi, sloan, tom green, AMNESIA ROCKFEST TOUR, moneen, war of 1812.
<shaarad>
I am thinking of solo mining on android and pool mining on PCs and VMs
<shaarad>
is that a good choice?
<Peppernrino>
shaarad: asteroids@home has cpu work
<shaarad>
But the tasks are quite heavy, right?
<Gary760>
The android app has no wat to connect to the pools account manager
<Peppernrino>
not the cpu ones
<Peppernrino>
the things is, rac-wise you won't get shit
<Peppernrino>
that's correct gary760
<Gary760>
I read it wrong... sorry
<shaarad>
yes
<Peppernrino>
solo-mine on android devices for now
<shaarad>
So suggest me some projects pls :) I tried WCG but it's not connecting
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by spassbold - Content type:
<caraka>
I meant I'd like to update the linux section on gridcoin.us, but I'd be happy with a wallet upgrade too.
<caraka>
thanks spassbold
<cbr>
shaarad yes, thats all there is to it
<cbr>
and sending the beacon to the neural network once you have 50 or so GRC starting balance... which you can get here
<shaarad>
yes!!! how to send that beacon?
<Peppernrino>
it syncs up by your email address and cpid
<shaarad>
I have been searching for it
<cbr>
its a connand in the debug window
<Peppernrino>
first lock your wallet with a passphrase
<Peppernrino>
then unlock it with "for staking only" unticked
<Peppernrino>
THEN send the beacon
<Peppernrino>
help> debug window
<Peppernrino>
type
<spassbold>
but only if you already have your own cpid
<Peppernrino>
execute advertisebeacon
<cbr>
thats also something for the faq
<Peppernrino>
^other wise you get "investors cannot send beacons"
<cbr>
although i think its in there already :)
<shaarad>
Okay, please help me understand this cpid
<Peppernrino>
should be more clear, step by step
<shaarad>
should it be same in whatever projects i participate in?
<cbr>
yep
<Peppernrino>
customminer is a genius, but he's wordy :P
<cbr>
it will be if you sign up withthe same email
<cbr>
all my cpids are the same
<shaarad>
let me check
<cbr>
thats why its a cross-project-id I think ;) lol
<Peppernrino>
!tip katiee 1
<GRCtip5>
Peppernrino tipped katiee 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Bouowmx>
Nvidia driver 364.72 just crashed my system: no Windows blue screen; direct shutdown...
<cbr>
oactually its more determined by joining one and then adding the other projects to the same boinc instance with the boinc cpid in place from the original project
<cbr>
or ones you have added subsequently that have inherited the original cpid
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<Peppernrino>
i like the new drivers just fine
<cbr>
if that makes sense
<Peppernrino>
must be something else
<Peppernrino>
lint
<shaarad>
it's different :(
<Peppernrino>
i add projects to computers that aren't part of the main setup and it has no probelm seeing them
<shaarad>
it's different in enigma@home and pogs
<Peppernrino>
oh yeah! have to go delete the rest of the logs
<cbr>
some of my pi's aren't running projects. I think cloning sd cards and changing hostnames wasnt enough :( back laters after a few hours of rpi command line !
<Peppernrino>
"CProgramDataBOINC"
<Peppernrino>
holy shit, there's some unnecessary stuff in that folder if you like to switch projects
<Peppernrino>
check it out
<cbr>
i did detach and reattach the projects under new hostnames but the host id must be in the original boinc install inherited from the old sd card :/
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<shaarad>
cbr how can I get the same cpid for both the projects then?
<shaarad>
The thing is, when I had created a wallet after joining both the projects, might that be the reason for this?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - GridCoin.co Pool (beta)
<Sander96>
shit
<customminer>
lol
<Sander96>
4k payment
<Gary760>
I got double of what I was usually getting.
<customminer>
cool
<Gary760>
Which isn't all that much, but it's something
<Kaiok>
I started this about a week ago (had saved the reddit post for a few days before I bothered following it up) and I swear there were about 500 people in it, now it's 739
<customminer>
yeah it's growing quickly
<Sander96>
haha yeah
<Gary760>
It's crazy
<dolganoff>
cause your RAC is calculated over a month
<dolganoff>
it will continue to rise
<dolganoff>
even if you're doing steady work
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<Kaiok>
really hate that the post got hidden, there might have been other people that didn't save the link first
<Krapfenmann>
Hey all.
<Sander96>
Hey
<Kaiok>
o/
<spassbold>
there will be another thread at some point, maybe not on r/futurology but r/pcmasterrace or somewhere else :)
<customminer>
yo Krapfenmann
<customminer>
got to be careful with posting on reddit though
<customminer>
sponsoring twitch streamers might be a good idea..
<spassbold>
yeah for some time nothing there....
<Kaiok>
hah, I imagine so, give it a couple of weeks and tame the GRCtipbot and it'll be fine to repost I imagine
<fkinglag>
almost 100 days until bitcoin block reward halving
<Krapfenmann>
May i ask a question? ^^
<spassbold>
twitch might actually be a pretty good idea
<spassbold>
ask away
<fkinglag>
twitch streaming exposure and gridcoin watermark logo spassbold :D
<Kaiok>
I'm in it for the futurology perspective. Was looking at the list of supercomputers/distributed computing networks and it's impressive what this is doing
<Deviantone>
science is cool
<Deviantone>
:)
<Kaiok>
although kinda depressing since bitcoin puts every other system to shame for processing power. all to make people's value more secure.
<spassbold>
exactly Kaiok
<Krapfenmann>
I'm using Gridcoin Wallet now for some weeks but i don't know whats a Passphrase for and how do i set it. Also why should i encrypt my wallet and my question is. How does all this work. I only find short mentions about it in some FAQ but nothing in detail.
<spassbold>
that's also why I think the post on r/futurology was that sucesful
<frank0051>
^well, you know, because committing computing power to find prime numbers is hugely valuable
<spassbold>
because the idea just fits there perfectly
<Sander96>
Krapfenmann: Passphrase is for security
<spassbold>
frank0051 modelling the brain, folding proteins or researching the best materials for renewables actually is
<Sander96>
so if someone accesses your PC (on-site or off-site) they can't send the coins to themselves
<Destined>
now the fight to get this 4890 mining begins
<Chick3nman>
4890
<Chick3nman>
like
<Chick3nman>
the really old AMD card
<Krapfenmann>
Ah ok. So, how do i know my Passphrase? I never set one?
<Deviantone>
Krapfenmann: It simply put, best practice security. Encrypt it and then unlock for staking only
<Deviantone>
Coins can't be sent without the passphrase
<jahjah>
The methods for finding primes is hugely valuable
<Deviantone>
but can be received
<jahjah>
not just finding the prime
<frank0051>
@spassbold, I was making a joke :-P
<Deviantone>
also wallet theft
<Deviantone>
think malware
<frank0051>
I'm running primegrid too
<Krapfenmann>
Then I'm confused. All i do is click on "Unlock Wallet" and it unlocks. Where can i set a passphrase?
<Kaiok>
heh, I've steered clear of all that prime stuff, I'm just running brain modelling/disease based ones
<Kaiok>
and GPU grid cause nothing else seems to reliably use my GPU except SETI.
<Deviantone>
Settings > Encrypt wallet
<Deviantone>
it will ask you for a passphrase
<Deviantone>
then when you unlock it, it will prompt you for it. Just keep the 'for staking only' checked
<Chick3nman>
kaiok GPUGRID takes pretty solid advantage of my GPUs
<Chick3nman>
though right now im running a ton of asteroids
<Chick3nman>
because i need to beat 100k rac
<Chick3nman>
on asteroids
<Sander96>
whgy
<Sander96>
why
<Krapfenmann>
Thank you ... ^^ Finally found it. Thanks for help all =)
<Sander96>
No problem Krapfenmann
<Sander96>
!tip Krapfenmann 1
<Deviantone>
np
<Sander96>
!tip Deviantone 1
<GRCtip5>
Sander96 tipped Krapfenmann 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Deviantone>
:)
<Sander96>
Bot doesn't like you Deviantone
<Krapfenmann>
Thank you again. Wish i could have more Coins to start a rain daily here xD
<Chick3nman>
Sander96: Challenged someone to it
<Chick3nman>
cbr iirc
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<Deviantone>
I abuse the bot
<Deviantone>
lol
<Kaiok>
:D
<Kaiok>
I'm glad someone isn't just blathering on cause they're drunk and actually being helpful
<Destined>
Chick3nman ya
<Destined>
as overclocked this specific one is a beast
<Chick3nman>
nice
<Chick3nman>
my onboard on my
<Destined>
and it will help me generate more coins that I want currently since the fans locked up and fried my 7950
<Chick3nman>
NAS is an HD 4250
<Chick3nman>
same series
<Chick3nman>
much shittier
<Destined>
so im down to 2 of them, a 5770 and a 4890
<Chick3nman>
damn
<Sander96>
!rainactive 1 10
<Chick3nman>
i have 2 5970's just laying around that i need to retask with boinc
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Sander96 rained 0.1 GRC on active users Chick3nman, mrarturas, d_o_c, Bouowmx, k0r3, Destined, frank0051, Kaiok, xXUnRealXx, caraka! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Sander96>
lol the bot actually hates you Deviantone
<Sander96>
I thought it was just delayed
<Chick3nman>
lol
<Sander96>
I'd tip you again, but the bot clearly doesn't want me to :P
<Destined>
yea least my 7950's are on track to make $250+ a month
* Deviantone
slaps GRCtip5 around a bit with a large trout
* Deviantone
slaps GRCtip5 around a bit with a large trout
<Deviantone>
;)
<Chick3nman>
Destined: 250$ a month? how many 7950's are you running?
<Yoduza>
7950's .. $250+ a month :o
<Chick3nman>
i have a 7950 laying around as well
<Destined>
2 :D
<Chick3nman>
but its toasted
<Chick3nman>
lol
<Chick3nman>
how can you possibly make that much with 2 7950's
<Destined>
my secret :D
<Chick3nman>
lol
<Destined>
my other 2 cards cant participate in the fun thou
<Chick3nman>
running boinc on them?
<Destined>
so they will end up on another algo most likely
<Chick3nman>
that seems high even for very tactical boinc
<customminer>
idd
<customminer>
whats your secret, Destined ? :P
<Destined>
nah probably going to just cpu boinc
<Chick3nman>
ahh ok
<Destined>
and ditch my gpu projects in the end
<dolganoff>
htat's what i did
<Deviantone>
keep em for the science I say
<dolganoff>
I don't do gpu at all now
<Chick3nman>
why not?
<Kaiok>
!tip Deviantone 0.3
<GRCtip5>
Kaiok tipped Deviantone 0.3 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Chick3nman>
i get a large amount of my MAG from my two Titan-X's
<Destined>
customminer maybe you can bribe it outta me as I needs money badly now that my insurance is refusing to pay for my pain management and is back denying every single claim from the start of seeing the doctor so now my unable to work ass is going to have to come up with around $25k in no time to attempt to stay on the path to getting healthy
<Deviantone>
ty
<dolganoff>
mines are too old and not worth the payout vs energy
<Sander96>
bot hates me instead
<Chick3nman>
ahh ok
<Destined>
and no im not lying about $250+ from 2 7950s either
<customminer>
Destined: as long as you're not manipulating the system, idc :P
<Chick3nman>
^
<Chick3nman>
i know you can make that much via GPU tasks, however not boinc+gridcoin
<Destined>
customminer that correct response was to bribe me :(
<Destined>
*the
<Kaiok>
well it's POS as well right at 1.5%? you could have a small fortune desposited right? :P
<dolganoff>
i am extracting much more than that money from my i5. just doing my day job :D
<Chick3nman>
the reason i can afford my hardware and projects is because of other tasks i use them for
<Chick3nman>
not boinc
<Deviantone>
I trade on the exchange and make more than that.. but on the other hand have no idea what I make from boinc
<Deviantone>
The coins all mix together
<Sander96>
!tip Destined 1
<Destined>
Soon I have to work to move every single blockchain off my ssd to the new hard drives I just installed
<GRCtip5>
Sander96 tipped Destined 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Destined>
because then you will tell somebody else and ill lose lots of money :(
<Deviantone>
it'll be worth a lot more
<Deviantone>
lol
<Sander96>
For the pool yes Ashquith
<Ashquith>
sweet :)
<Kaiok>
megabig payday
<Destined>
Its gotta be worth me telling knowing ima lose money quickly once everybody starts doing it
<Sander96>
Destined: well, you're either manipulating the system or it's not the 2 GPUs that are bringin in 250$, so maybe I should know so it can be fixed lol
<Destined>
its not boinc related
<Destined>
i already said that
<customminer>
not boinc/gridcoin related?
<Destined>
it involves other ventues in crypto
<Destined>
im diverse
<Chick3nman>
lol
<Chick3nman>
if it helps i make 2$ a day from gridcoin
<Chick3nman>
without doing any serious tactical mining or anything
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Deviantone - Content type: text/html
<Deviantone>
I'm not worried
<Destined>
I even just setup 3 laptops next to me to help now, plus also put in the 4890 so i can use them on other coins as well and generates more monies
<Destined>
Plus I also added 8tb of storage space today in general
<Chick3nman>
storage space doestn really help with mining.....
<Chick3nman>
unless its a proof of storage coin
<Chick3nman>
which there are very few of
<customminer>
sia?
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<Destined>
and found a site where I can buy WD white label enterprise 6tb drives for $169.95 if only I had the money
<Chick3nman>
lol
<Chick3nman>
i have a bunch of Seagate enterprise NAS 5TBs
<Destined>
but I gotta try to come up with thousands in the next few days somehow just for my doctor
<Destined>
and thats assuming they havent managed to deny but a few claims yet t hat got back to him
<Sander96>
It's funny how I know you're from the US Destined
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on Kaiok, s4m20__, jeamy, Bouowmx, richardTNT, SchietSchijf, Tahvok, Payne2109, Firecrotch, technoweenie! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Deviantone>
lol and Sander96
<d_o_c>
ty Sander96
<Deviantone>
lol
<Deviantone>
oh that was golden
<Yoduza>
2$ a day from gridcoin?
<Chick3nman>
me? yes
<Yoduza>
i want do it too ;P
<Chick3nman>
not hard
<Destined>
Im basically fucked and I need to keep seeing both my doctors and I have been told I can't be treated for either problem anymore that there not paying, and they started back denying claims
<Chick3nman>
just like 800-850 MAg
<Destined>
all becuase the hospital wrote fucked up shit on my discharge papers last time
<Krapfenmann>
My magnitude is 2 ... was 4 before Q.Q
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<Destined>
Mines 145, was nearly 500 at one point
<Destined>
but then I had a tower off a week, and the other tower was busy with other stuff
<fkinglag>
!tip Krapfenmann 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped Krapfenmann 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Destined>
then the next week my tasks in boinc locked up apparently and claimed they were running but were getting nothing done towards the %
<fkinglag>
!tip d_o_c 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped d_o_c 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Krapfenmann>
Thank you ^^
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<d_o_c>
thx fkinglag
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<shaarad>
!superblock
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from gridcoin.asia...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Resource is not available: 500
<Deviantone>
RIP Katbot
* fkinglag
boops Katiee
<fkinglag>
where did KatBot die off to???
<Deviantone>
Katbot dreamland
* fkinglag
pokes KatBot
<Deviantone>
!rainactive 4 20
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Deviantone rained 0.2 GRC on active users bob21, fto, Katiee, WhitesoxCrypto, cbr, TedFx, MiXa1972, dolganoff, yoyo[RKN], Krapfenmann, fkinglag, CoinFlare, Peppernrino, spassbold, tr0nic, d_o_c, unattached, mrarturas, KatBot, caraka! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<_47an>
47an EXPLODED, somewhat... This terrible calamity has slowed them 1 day, 07:19:05 from level 53.
<Kaiok>
oh boo. digging out my final laptop and found a letter I should've posted 2 months ago
* _47an
Doh!
<Peppernrino>
"/nickserv set enforce on" <----- vega30000
<vega30000>
what is it ?
<Peppernrino>
nick protecyion
<Peppernrino>
we're locking down
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<shaarad>
Peppernrino: what made you so serious about this?
<Peppernrino>
life
<shaarad>
Lol
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<vega30000>
everybody are allready enforced . only me not ? peppernrino ?
<Peppernrino>
you nad bouowmx
<Peppernrino>
and
<Bouowmx>
??
<Peppernrino>
need private AND enforce tags
<vega30000>
what somebody not put this great massage in the topic ?
<Peppernrino>
<Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> "/nickserv set private on"
<Peppernrino>
<Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> "/nickserv set enforce on"
<Peppernrino>
<Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> "/nickserv set hidemail on"
<customminer>
shaarad: constant scam attempts
<Peppernrino>
^
<shaarad>
Yeah
<customminer>
every day for weeks
<shaarad>
I faced one too
<vega30000>
and everytime if i log in i have to type ---->>>>> Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> "/nickserv set private on"
<vega30000>
<Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> "/nickserv set enforce on"
<vega30000>
<Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> <Peppernrino> "/nickserv set hidemail on ????????
<vega30000>
can u see my emailadress ? peppernpinno ?
<vega30000>
peppernrino
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<vega30000>
shaarad u ip is very privat now
<shaarad>
What happened?
<vega30000>
hell on earths
<shaarad>
:O
<vega30000>
peppernrino lose his voice
<vega30000>
and no more rain :-(
<Kaiok>
I think you broke him, have to resummon
<vega30000>
everybody scared scam
<Kaiok>
Peppernrino, Peppernrino, Peppernrino!
<vega30000>
. buy beer . maybe
<shaarad>
Bye guys
<shaarad>
Sleeping now
<vega30000>
fukkk offfff
<vega30000>
letz talk
<shaarad>
:/
<vega30000>
hello sebastian-- what u doing ?
<vega30000>
its 22:55 . everybody sleep allround the planet .
<jahjah>
thansk for the rain _47an
<Peppernrino>
hi
<_47an>
np jahjah
<_47an>
Who is this new sebastian--?
<vega30000>
hi²
<sebastian-->
Just bored and pressed some buttons.
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<sebastian-->
Ha. New XD
<_47an>
long time user back on track then.
<Peppernrino>
drgrid?
<_47an>
Well, welcome back sebastian.
<sebastian-->
Yes. And Seppelpeters. I have some free time at hand, so I thought I'd do some small dev job again.
<Peppernrino>
:D
<_47an>
ok great
<jfperez55>
a
<vega30000>
ups i am vip now :-)
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<d_o_c>
!ping
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
PONG! I'm ALIVE!
<vega30000>
!rain 1
<GRCtip5>
Sorry vega30000, your rain (1 GRC) is too small (min. 18.3 GRC). Increase the amount or decrease max users.
<vega30000>
!tip d_o_c 1
<GRCtip5>
vega30000 tipped d_o_c 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<dolganoff>
cheapskate!
<sebastian-->
I read some stuff on connectivity and I would like to try it out. Probably wont lead to anything, but from my point of view it has not really improved since the launch way back in 2013. Maybe got a bit more steady, but not faster.
<tr0nic_>
i whoised everyone (except you customminer - lol) on #blackcoin and found out that he is online with username: user_78
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<tr0nic_>
he is using a german game-server as VPN
<Peppernrino>
-NickServ- user_78 is not registered.
<tr0nic_>
i think he is almost a german - in the chat he said he is US but he mentioned an abbreviation for "OKAY" which is only used by german speakers "oki"
<Sander96>
I'm guessing eastern-European would also be possible
<tr0nic_>
i am in contact with the OP from #blackcoin and will also inform bittrex.com where he has his "trade-bot"
<VenomGhost>
hello everybody nice to meet you
<Peppernrino>
nice woirk
<customminer>
hello VenomGhost
<Peppernrino>
hi venomghost. :D
<VenomGhost>
I'm kinda new here trying to set up a GRC mining pool :)
<customminer>
cool
<customminer>
It's pretty easy to do
<Peppernrino>
"/nickserv set private on" "/nickserv set enforce on" "/nickserv set hidemail on"
<VenomGhost>
Ihink Im set ...I tried going solo but I havent mined a single bit yet... now Im supposed to be on the only mining pool avalaible
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<VenomGhost>
how can I check?¿
<Peppernrino>
ENFORCE NICKSERV GOODNESS
<customminer>
VenomGhost: How can you check what? That you're using the pool?
<customminer>
VenomGhost: If you removed all boinc account entries from your boinc manager, then followed the gridcoin pool guide you'll be on the right track..
<customminer>
pool.gridcoin.co
<VenomGhost>
I can see my 2 hosts listed on pool.gridcoin.co
<customminer>
cool
<VenomGhost>
I removed the two projects I'm in and resync
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<VenomGhost>
but my RAC is 0
<tr0nic_>
SCAMMER - but he is operating as OP with ` jabulon`
<VenomGhost>
my staking says 1 day to earn reward too...this is all too confusing... xD
<customminer>
VenomGhost: Did you select your projects through the pool website?
<VenomGhost>
how much balance do I need to start getting some reuslts?
<Destined>
god ima have to update so many shortcuts later its not even funny
<VenomGhost>
yes I "attached " the projects through the pool website
<Destined>
since im moving all my blockchains to a new dedicated 2tb drive
<customminer>
VenomGhost: When you're using the pool, you're not solo crunching. You'll earn your BOINC rewards through the pool. If you stake with the client, you'll earn interest on your balance but you won't earn your BOINC rewards on top of staked blocks.
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<VenomGhost>
that's the thing I started solo crunching... i guess my blance was/is too low and I saw no reward
<VenomGhost>
now Im supossed to be on pool mining or DPOR I think
<customminer>
Yeah, you need a few thousand to be solo crunching
<customminer>
DPOR = Solo.
<Grizgal>
#GRCtip
<customminer>
pool mining - you crunch on behalf of someone else's CPID. They stake, earn the DPOR reward, then send you your reward via a transaction.
<VenomGhost>
ok ok DPOR solo... what about this pool thing I head is the best when starting, and then do the switch to solo
<VenomGhost>
but how can I actually check what mode im on
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<customminer>
by which you've chosen to use
<VenomGhost>
Status is Boinc mining ....
<customminer>
if you're using the pool as a boinc account manager in your boinc manager (boinc client) you'll earn your rewards through the pool
<VenomGhost>
I got no peeny execept for faucets
<customminer>
VenomGhost: Remove your email and cpid from your gridcoinresearch.conf file
<VenomGhost>
just delete the whole line?
<customminer>
VenomGhost: Your ability to access your owed solo rewards is entirely dependent on your ability to stake. Staking frequency increases with a larger balance.
<VenomGhost>
syncing.... my balnace is like 26.xx two pcs working.... (maybe 3 or more soon) . I should only have one wallet running in one pc, plus every boinv instance through pool.gridcoin.co account manager
<VenomGhost>
also... I know there some android alternatives.... but they dont have the pool account manager working they can be normally added? (solo mining????)
<customminer>
you'll need to contact the android app developer to allow custom account managers
<customminer>
yeah only one wallet running, each pc runs boinc
<VenomGhost>
no sync yet....
<VenomGhost>
ok
<VenomGhost>
Project says INVESTOR now
<VenomGhost>
I deleted the 2 lines, a few days ago the beacon was sent
<Destined>
but by my math i show that couldnt have just happened
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by KatBot - Content type: unknown
<Kaiok>
yeah, it wasn't recognising new hosts/communicating with existing ones but I just tried again and it synced fine with my desktop. could well be your settings, have you opened the event log in boinc? ctrl-shift-e
<agates>
Kaiok: just re attached the account and it's working! :)
<customminer>
could be under maintenance at the moment?
<customminer>
Peppernrino: busy atm
<Kaiok>
good :D
<Destined>
ima have to say fuck it and plug these laptops directly into the wall i guess and see what else i can gut
<k0r3>
!rainactive 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! k0r3 rained 1 GRC on active users coinictus, koanon, kopykat, Peppernrino, ltkeklulz, Yoduza, SashaTheBOLD, BDCrate, Mr_SeLeNiO, Bouowmx! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<ltkeklulz>
Thanks!
<Mr_SeLeNiO>
Ty
<Kaiok>
thanks ^^
<BDCrate>
go GRC ;)
<kopykat>
at last
<BDCrate>
no md5 on the grc windows wallet download?
<customminer>
BDCrate: you could ask the lead dev to include an md5
<BDCrate>
let me ask who the lead dev is first then?
<customminer>
rob halford
<customminer>
on the cryptocointalk forums
<BDCrate>
k
<VenomGhost>
!rain
<GRCtip5>
Usage: !rain <amount> [max users]
<VenomGhost>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Sorry VenomGhost, you don't have enough funds (you're 10 GRC short).
<agates>
What's the "pool mining" option in advanced configuration do?
<VenomGhost>
ohhhh I see
<customminer>
agates: nothing
<customminer>
agates: It was a planned feature at one point, but i dont think it was developed much
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<agates>
fair enough :)
<Gary760>
Where does the rain come from? Your amount in the irc channel or wallet?
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by traderman - Tweets with replies by GridcoinNetwork (@GridcoinNetwork) | Twitter
<customminer>
!tip BDCrate 5
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<GRCtip5>
customminer tipped BDCrate 5 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Sander96_XPS13>
Please don't take offense to this, but your marketing isn't great traderman
<BDCrate>
thx customminer
<traderman>
lol, why not?
<omnibusinc>
thanks!
<Sander96_XPS13>
The posts on Reddit, not even talking about the fact they broke Reddit wide rules
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<SashaTheBOLD>
"Twitter" and "conversation" seem to be...incongruous.
<Sander96_XPS13>
Spamming Twitter won't do much either I'm afraid, except for annoying people of course
<traderman>
but they got us lots of attention and new members, sometimes u gotta just push it
<Sander96_XPS13>
Spassbold's post got us attention
<Sander96_XPS13>
because it was as good post
<tr0nic_>
!rainactive 10
<GRCtip5>
Sorry tr0nic_, you don't have enough funds (you're 7.71932558 GRC short).
<traderman>
the posts on twitter are relevant
<Sander96_XPS13>
There was actual effort, the right subreddit etc
<d_o_c>
/agree Sander96
<tr0nic_>
!rainactive 2.28 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! tr0nic_ rained 0.228 GRC on active users Deviantone, omnibusinc, yepla, koanon, Mr_SeLeNiO, d_o_c, Destined, Kaiok, VulcanJoo, fkinglag! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<coinictus>
goodnight all
<Sander96_XPS13>
Messaging people that have nothing to do with cryptocurrency
<Sander96_XPS13>
probably don't know what it is
<Sander96_XPS13>
just looks like spam
<Sander96_XPS13>
and makes us look like a scam
<xms>
hey
<fkinglag>
@GridcoinNetwork is causing quite the stir on twitter
<Phay>
!beak
<Phay>
!week
<traderman>
so the fact that ClimatePrediction is studying climate patterns has nothing to do with climate change or the people who are tweeting about climate change?
<Sander96_XPS13>
Exactly
<Phay>
*Pokemon
<fkinglag>
!tip Phay 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped Phay 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Sander96_XPS13>
People that are tweeting about climate change do not care about ClimatePrediction on BOINC, and also (especially) not GRC
<fkinglag>
goodnight coinictus
<fkinglag>
hey xms
<Phay>
so the fact that Japan is studying Pokemon patterns has nothing to do with climate change or the people who are tweeting about climate change?
<traderman>
cause you know that 100%, right?
<Phay>
cause you know that 1%, right?
<xms>
hey
<Sander96_XPS13>
I'll give you an example of a tweet
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by traderman - GridcoinNetwork on Twitter: "@JohnQuiggin Looks like Bitcoin's power consumption may get out of hand over the next few years! https://t.co/5zX63wwMYA #climatechange"
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Sander96_XPS13 - GridcoinNetwork on Twitter: "@exploreplanets The @MilkyWayatHome project uses Boinc volunteers to create a highly accurate three dimensional model of the MilkyWay galaxy"
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<Dashaiva>
It is one thing to care, it is another to do something about it
<customminer>
?
<Phay>
?
<SashaTheBOLD>
.
<Dashaiva>
I was just reading above on the cliamte change twitter ,etc. stuff
<Phay>
cliamte?
<Sander96_XPS13>
I''m sure it's not all tweets that are bad
<Dashaiva>
climate
<Phay>
I"m
<Sander96_XPS13>
but most tweets are for accounts that are managed by companies for example, companies that won't care
<Sander96_XPS13>
They're just posting something
<Phay>
like google?
<Phay>
google doesn't care :o
<traderman>
that's why WCG is retweeting Gridcoin tweets, right?
<Phay>
because they don't care?
* Phay
cries
<Sander96_XPS13>
WCG is related to boinc?
<Sander96_XPS13>
That's my whole point
<Phay>
by blood
<Phay>
World Community Gridcoin
<Phay>
brought to you by... Walmart
<traderman>
yep, they are an organization and they have retweeted us on multiple occasions, if i had followed your adivice and never bothered to tweet them, they would have probable never retweeted us
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Sander96_XPS13 - GridcoinNetwork on Twitter: "@SylviaEarle @adriangrenier Scientists at distributed computing BOINC projects such as @CPDN_BOINC study climate patterns and #climatechange"
<Peppernrino>
i'll retweet your stupid shit, sander. <3
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Sander96_XPS13 - GridcoinNetwork on Twitter: "@exploreplanets The @MilkyWayatHome project uses Boinc volunteers to create a highly accurate three dimensional model of the MilkyWay galaxy"
<traderman>
those tweets are great man, stop being so stubborn
<customminer>
Twitter itself is one spamfest
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by Peppernrino - Content type: unknown
<Peppernrino>
!tip phay 1
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<traderman>
custom, lol
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<GRCtip5>
Peppernrino tipped phay 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Sander96_XPS13>
I'm being realistic
<Peppernrino>
"/nickserv set private on" "/nickserv set enforce on" "/nickserv set hidemail on"
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<Peppernrino>
ALL of them.
<Peppernrino>
it's the least you can do.
<customminer>
Maybe using a personal twitter account for these tweets and gridcoin network account for more official tweets would be appropriate? Then such criticism would be unwarranted.
<traderman>
the gridcoin twitter has gotten like 20+ followers in the past few hours just from those tweets
<Phay>
oh bby
<Phay>
gj Walmart!
<traderman>
custom, maybe so
<fkinglag>
!tip Peppernrino 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped Peppernrino 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<fkinglag>
!tip traderman 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped traderman 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<Phay>
who's traderman?
<Sander96_XPS13>
Getting retweets from relevant companies/people = good, spamming companies that don't have anything to do with boinc/cryptocurrency are also not interested in it. I feel like it makes us look like a scam instead. I'd love more tweets to more relevant people, I don't hate the tweeting itself.
<Dashaiva>
Is there a growth rate chart for gridcoin?
<Sander96_XPS13>
I do appreciate the effort, like I said
<customminer>
traderman: I can see his point - a personal account for direct tweet marketing would draw less fire maybe.
<VenomGhost>
guy when will i be able to see some rac in the gridcoin pool website? I mean right now its just 0 and 0
<Sander96_XPS13>
As soon as you finish a workunit and it's verified, max 2 hours after that
<Dashaiva>
venom - do you have a GTC balance and a CPID?
<Dashaiva>
Err GRC
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Is it raining time? 1 GRC for 10 lucky users every 3 hours! Don't forget to tip me to keep the rain going!
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
!rain 10 10
<GRCtip5>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! [-SaRaFiNa-] rained 1 GRC on bitempla, Sander96_XPS13, _47an, maokoto, moorbsen, bfroyo, kondiomir, VashTheStampede, richardTNT, Mr_SeLeNiO! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<VenomGhost>
Dashaiva, GTC??? cpid? well dunno Im supossed to be on pool mining
<tristanupsha>
last payout was only a few hours ago I think?
<Phay>
oh bby
<Phay>
pool payout?
<Dashaiva>
VenomGhost, ah, ok you need to look over at pool.gridcoin.co
<Phay>
!price
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Bittrex: Last 0.00002857 | Bid 0.00002764 | Ask 0.00002857
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
C-CEX: Last 0.00002784 | Bid 0.00002784 | Ask 0.00002819
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Poloniex: Last 0.00002777 | Bid 0.00002777 | Ask 0.00002804
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Cryptopia: Last 0.00002750 | Bid 0.00002750 | Ask 0.00003000
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Linked by tristanupsha - GridCoin.co Pool (beta)
<ltkeklulz>
I got tasks from MindModeling again, but all of the tasks are getting to 2% then stopping. The process is still running, but it isn't making any progress
<ltkeklulz>
I have tasks that have said "25 minutes remaining" for an hour with no additional progress
<Sander96_XPS13>
VenomGhost: Did you read what I said? If you've waited longer than what I said we need to fix your issue
<maokoto>
sup
<Dashaiva>
ltkeklulz, maybe you need to abandon them?
<ltkeklulz>
It seems like whoever wrote the program being run accidentally included an infinite loop without realizing it
<VenomGhost>
? my tsks are doing fine
<VenomGhost>
the website shows the two projects I attached
<Sander96_XPS13>
How long have you been crunching?
* Peppernrino
is updating the FUCK out of the gridcoin wiki :D
<VenomGhost>
Ihad like 25 before for days and nothing in solo
<Sander96_XPS13>
1k with solo, 100 mag might still need 2 weeks to stake
<Sander96_XPS13>
so 25 is going to take months
<tristanupsha>
so I should stay in pool till 1k GRC?
<Sander96_XPS13>
hence why we have the pool
<iEatWeasels>
Isn't the boinc work what determines how much you get?..
<Sander96_XPS13>
Yeah, I'd recommend that tristanupsha
<iEatWeasels>
and the amount of GRC you have determines how long until you get your payout?
<Sander96_XPS13>
How much yes, how often no
<Sander96_XPS13>
Yeah
<VenomGhost>
I see... how much you have --> how often you get paid
<tristanupsha>
GRC system feels so convoluted sometimes :/
<Dashaiva>
I also switched to solo because boinc android doesn't support the pool
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<Sander96_XPS13>
Yeah how much you have and how much you do for boinc
<VenomGhost>
how much you research --> how much you get paid
<Sander96_XPS13>
yeah
<Dashaiva>
And I was having trouble with receiving cpu WU for GPU only projects
<tristanupsha>
I see, that clears a lot of things up for me
<d_o_c>
!tip Sander96_XPS13 1
<GRCtip5>
d_o_c tipped Sander96_XPS13 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<ltkeklulz>
Is anyone else having issues with MindModeling?
<iEatWeasels>
Yeah, it doesn't really seem like the pool is a necessity. It might just be nice if you're doing a fuckton of crunching so you can get large payouts quick and you want them immediately.
<Sander96_XPS13>
Thanks d_o_c
<VenomGhost>
I need.... about 3 days to see how much will earn from my pool mining
<d_o_c>
You deserve more.
<fkinglag>
!tip VenomGhost
<GRCtip5>
Usage: !tip <nick> <amount>
<fkinglag>
!tip VenomGhost 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped VenomGhost 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<VenomGhost>
ohhhh thanks :)
<Sander96_XPS13>
Pool is necessary because no one wants to wait 4 months before they get paid
<Sander96_XPS13>
and with low magnitude+low balance it might take that long
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<Sander96_XPS13>
that's why we either recommend you buy some or go pool
<traderman>
what does everyone think about a GRC infographic contest with a huge GRC prize for multiple winners, say top 3??
<iEatWeasels>
Well if you go to the faucets, you should get enough to get a good start for solo, no?
<VenomGhost>
faucets will give you like 0.1 - 0.5
<Sander96_XPS13>
traderman: what about spassbold's infographic?
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<Sander96_XPS13>
I'm talking about 1000 GRC, so no, faucets won't be enough
<Sander96_XPS13>
:D
<ltkeklulz>
I couldn't get the us faucet to work because I needed a CPID that it recognized and it didn't recognize mine
<VenomGhost>
you could mine some eth and exchange I guess
<kranga>
how can I be readded to the neural network?
<fkinglag>
this is starting to get a little ridiculous in #gridcoin-games
<fkinglag>
(05:50:03 PM) [-KriStaL-]: Congratulations, fkinglag! You just caught yourself a 209373802 pound Chinstrap Penguin!
<traderman>
that infographic is great, but I think we need something professional
<kranga>
my wallet crashed and my config got deleted
<fkinglag>
I can work on an infographic later
* fkinglag
needs nap
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<tristanupsha>
These faucets are getting as dry as California's deserts
<kranga>
I rewrote my config but shows the cpid as investor
<fkinglag>
!tip tristanupsha 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped tristanupsha 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<tristanupsha>
thank you
<fkinglag>
!tip kranga 1
<GRCtip5>
fkinglag tipped kranga 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip5 help" for info.
<kranga>
ty
<fkinglag>
\o/ you're welcome!
<VenomGhost>
ok ok ok
<VenomGhost>
so 3 days to see some payment on the pool page got it...
<VenomGhost>
but...
<Sander96_XPS13>
investor should be removed and old CPID should be re-added kranga
<VenomGhost>
I see im staking
<Sander96_XPS13>
you sure it's the same config?
<Sander96_XPS13>
boinc path correct?
<fkinglag>
!priceall
<[-SaRaFiNa-]>
Requesting information from exchanges...
<VenomGhost>
the estimated time to reward is 10 days