lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: Update to v0.4.2, the v03x network's EOL/end-of-life approaches: July 7th -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 -- Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping force-pushed feature/blocks-cache-arc from c1934b2 to f5e3e47: https://git.io/vKTuV
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/blocks-cache-arc 67316e8 Jakub Sztandera: blocks/blockstore: add CacheOpts - structure of cache config...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/blocks-cache-arc e04782d Jakub Sztandera: blocks/blockstore: improve logic a bit...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/blocks-cache-arc 1ed345d Jakub Sztandera: blocks/blockstore: introduce context passing to blockstore...
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: we should just transition before things become a problem
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<lgierth> these are fine ^ harlan's node is just offline
<lgierth> !pin QmQmwZekgo1vBuVf3Zf6DWSZ4Tg1SDM1MNXMccPANigWn9 project-repos.ipfs.io
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmQmwZekgo1vBuVf3Zf6DWSZ4Tg1SDM1MNXMccPANigWn9
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<lgierth> sorry i'll stop spamming pinbot when this one's finished failing
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: >.>
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<whyrusleeping> okay pinbot, thats enough
<achin> a Some Point in the future, we'll release IPFS version 25.4 with "pinbot no longer spits out HTML gibberish" in the release notes
<lgierth> PRs to pinbot welcome :) it's a very small codebase
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<noffle> nicolagreco: hey! I've been on vacation since end of June, but I'll be back on July 9 -- eager to chat :)
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created greenkeeper-hapi-13.5.0 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vKI8J
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/greenkeeper-hapi-13.5.0 dedd86b greenkeeperio-bot: chore(package): update hapi to version 13.5.0...
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #347: hapi@13.5.0 breaks build ⚠️ (master...greenkeeper-hapi-13.5.0) https://git.io/vKI8X
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<user> /msg nickserv register
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<harlantwood> !pin QmXtXME2t8CXZFXSHkdft8CGthMvThmisXuyRU9Yc1HBmC project-repos.ipfs.io
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/auto-migrate: https://git.io/vKIuA
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/auto-migrate 9b6c365 Jeromy: make dist path overrideable...
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<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: how is this currently done in go-ipfs: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/348
<whyrusleeping> dignifiedquire: cat doesnt have offsets yet
<whyrusleeping> should be pretty simple to add in though
<whyrusleeping> just have to seek on our dagreader
<dignifiedquire> right, but I was just wondering what you do when you support seeking on the gateway
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<whyrusleeping> dagreader.Seek()
<whyrusleeping> http.ServeContent accepts a reader, but it does type upgrade checks to see if that reader supports seeking. If the given reader supports seeking, it will use it
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: I'm thinking of dropping the peerstore data to disk from this milestone
<whyrusleeping> its roughly 9MB of data on a longer running node
<whyrusleeping> which makes it only the 6th largest consumer of memory on the nodes i've been observing
<Kubuxu> and adds much more complexity
<whyrusleeping> yeap
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<Kubuxu> What are them in order?
<whyrusleeping> yamux, a different part of yamux, leveldb, protobuf (i think this is bitswap?), the dht, and then the peerstore
<whyrusleeping> depending on how you view yamux, its either one two or three of them
<whyrusleeping> there are three separate areas each consuming a decent chunk of memory
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<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: that degradation of DirAddOpsPerSec is 0.14 ms added. It might well be the cache.
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: are we hitting the bloom filter first? or the ARC cache?
<Kubuxu> the bloom first
<Kubuxu> It makes the ARC get less noise.
<Kubuxu> on Put (if block is already in blockstore) and bloom does PutMany cleanup.
<Kubuxu> I am testing it on my loaded server again.
<Kubuxu> Increased rounds number and so on.
<whyrusleeping> SGTM
<whyrusleeping> i'm heading off for the night
<whyrusleeping> good luck!
<Kubuxu> g'night
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<kpcyrd> Kubuxu: nice
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<reit> Kubuxu, i noticed you fixed up the dependencies for ipns-pub, but i'm still having difficulties compiling it
<reit> does it compile for you? i'm wondering whether a specific build environment is required
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire created example-add (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vKLvy
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs-api/example-add e2b36e8 Friedel Ziegelmayer: examples: add browser-add-example
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] dignifiedquire opened pull request #315: examples: add browser-add-example (master...example-add) https://git.io/vKLv9
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<Kubuxu> reit: it does compile for me
<Kubuxu> you need to use gc
<Kubuxu> s/gc/gx
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<reit> hm, i followed the instructions as listed in the readme.md, i got the gx components working and only when getting to the `go install` step do things fall apart and i begin to get errors like
<reit> ../../ipfs/go-ipfs/routing/dht/pb/message.go:81: cannot use peers[i].ID (type "gx/ipfs/QmRBqJF7hb8ZSpRcMwUt8hNhydWcxGEhtk81HKq6oUwKvs/go-libp2p-peer".ID) as type "github.com/ipfs/go-libp2p-peer".ID in argument to n.Connectedness
<reit> also tried it from scratch in a blank vm just in case, but no dice
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<kpcyrd> is there a standalone implementation to calculate ipfs hashes for files without running full ipfs? I'm aware of the multihash implementations, but I think that doesn't do chunking
<lgierth> oh man whyrusleeping is going to hate me for my feedback on the fs-repo automigration PR
<lgierth> kpcyrd: i don't think so -- but you could earn yourself lasting honor!
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<Kubuxu> reit: let me check it once more
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<Kubuxu> reit: ah right
<Kubuxu> reit: try this: https://github.com/Kubuxu/ipns-pub
<Kubuxu> it will keep breaking each time we update dep in go-ipfs
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<Kubuxu> we need to think of something smarter
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<reit> yep that one worked, thanks
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 1 new commit to feature/blocks-cache-arc: https://git.io/vKLlp
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/blocks-cache-arc 7b42e64 Jakub Sztandera: blocks/blockstore: add blockCache test...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/blocks-cache-arc from 7b42e64 to 8205ff8: https://git.io/vKTuV
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/blocks-cache-arc 8205ff8 Jakub Sztandera: blocks/blockstore: add blockCache test...
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: what did you do
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<lgierth> huh?
<lgierth> i have no recollection
<whyrusleeping> oh, the auto migrations PR
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<lgierth> wait, the dns hijacking i mention there is actually not so much of an issue becaue it's not local
<lgierth> anyhow, we still trust .io and the dns root to do their jobs
<lgierth> but then that's what we do with dist.ipfs.io anyhow
<kpcyrd> what did I miss?
<lgierth> intentional remote code execution :P
<lgierth> just kidding, automatic fs-repo migrations
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<kpcyrd> I don't think dns should be trusted
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: should we hard code a hash then?
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: also, is cryptoauth a reliable ordered stream?
<whyrusleeping> cc Kubuxu ansuz
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: i mean, you make a good point with broken migrations and being able to swap these out transparently. if we'd hardcode a hash, the new migrations release would have to be up on dist.ipfs.io before bumping the hash in go-ipfs. and if there's a go-ipfs release with a broken migration, effectively there'd have to be new releases of both migrations and go-ipfs
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: cryptoauth is unreliable and unordered
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: yay, re: cryptoauth
<whyrusleeping> ughhhh, re: migrations
<whyrusleeping> oh, and redeploy pinbot when you get a chance
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<whyrusleeping> acutally, one sec...
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<whyrusleeping> okay now
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<lgierth> coolio
<lgierth> hier kommt die maus
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<lgierth> !botsnack
<pinbot> om nom nom
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<M-mubot> Thanks for the treat!
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<nicolagreco> jbenet: actually if you want to talk over here - would be perfect
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: what version of go are the gateway ipfs nodes built with?
<lgierth> the one in dockerfile
<lgierth> whyrusleeping: ^
<lgierth> it's been a while actually
<lgierth> they're mostly running 994109c7316166fe89e6f4df91b91ca93283691c
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: hrm... do you think you could figure out which version that is?
<whyrusleeping> i'd love to make sure we're running at least 1.6.2
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<whyrusleeping> and could we get master on those two nodes?
<lgierth> the one in the dockerfile
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<lgierth> oh actually
<whyrusleeping> it just says 'go'
<lgierth> i removed that just the other day
<lgierth> :')
<lgierth> 1.6.2
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<whyrusleeping> okay good
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<whyrusleeping> we're gonna want that up to 1.7 as soon as it drops
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<lgierth> btw, about these -dev tags, if we're going to use these now, can we at least agree to tag the commit which bumps the version, and not some arbitrary following commit? :)
<whyrusleeping> ipfs performs a looooot better on 1.7
<whyrusleeping> >.>
<lgierth> i'm trying to figure out which commit is the last to have fs-repo@3 and it's tricky :)
<lgierth> i think it's the parent of Merge pull request #2903 from ipfs/feat/dskey-encoding
<lgierth> about 1.7, i hope alpine-edge will have 1.7 quickly
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<whyrusleeping> feat/dskey-encoding is the branch that happened in
<whyrusleeping> why are you looking for that though?
<alu> will anyone be at HOPE/DEFCON
<lgierth> whyrusleeping: i'm too lazy to do the repo-migration by hand, and the auto-migration requires a "y" on stdin
<whyrusleeping> -.-
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<lgierth> ipfs daemon --yes-run-the-migration-please
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<whyrusleeping> how should that option work?
<whyrusleeping> ipfs daemon --migrate=true <- automatically runs with no prompt?
<lgierth> yes
<whyrusleeping> ipfs daemon --migrate=false <- standard behaviour with the prompt?
<lgierth> and --migrate=false <- don't run migration, just fail as it used to
<whyrusleeping> okay
<lgierth> --migrate omitted <- prompt
<whyrusleeping> on it
<lgierth> that way i can flip between --migrate, "here's our new version hash, and it's okay to run a migration"
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: do you have any other feedback on the migrations themselves?
<whyrusleeping> for the auto migrations to work i need to ship a build to dist
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<lgierth> what do you think about the addressing of the download? i don
<lgierth> 't have a definite opinion
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<whyrusleeping> i think i'm gonna leave it using dns
<whyrusleeping> the option is there for people to say no and run things themselves
<lgierth> cool SGTM then
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: youve tried out the migrations a couple times, right?
<lgierth> aah i wanted to run it on pollux last night
<whyrusleeping> do itttttt
<whyrusleeping> also, if anyone can test it on windows for me, that would be super great
<lgierth> doing it
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<Chris___> I'm impressed with the capabilities of the GX package manager, but I have a question about it: Is there currently a way to discover new packages without consulting a centralized service like github?
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: fs-repo-migrations pretty busy enumerating keys
<lgierth> Chris___: there's not registries or the like at the moment
<Chris___> @lgierth I'm interesting in prototyping a package registry. Do you think such a thing would be useful?
<whyrusleeping> Chris___: yeah, i think a package registry for gx would be really cool
<Chris___> Well then, I'll look into it. Thanks.
<lgierth> with IPNS you can build a distributed registry
<lgierth> the "registry" being just a list of links to people's IPNS/Gx repositories
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<Chris___> @lgierth: With my understanding of the IPNS, you can create a registry of links, but how easy would it be to share that registry or update it to include the contents of other people's registries?
<lgierth> relatively easy -- you'll have to build a bit of tooling though :)
<Chris___> @lgierth: Also, could you search it if you built it on IPNS? I would expect only exact matches to IPNS keys to be useful.
<lgierth> you'd need something that maintains a search index
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<Chris___> I was toying with the idea of using a blockchain to associate vendor/package:version with IPFS hashes
<whyrusleeping> Chris___: have you seen http://mars.i.ipfs.team:9444/ ?
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/auto-migrate: https://git.io/vKtTh
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/auto-migrate 3f17bba Jeromy: add migrate flag to daemon subcommand...
<Chris___> @whyrusleeping: I hadn't seen that. Am I misunderstanding it, or is that just a seeder for adding packages to IPFS?
<whyrusleeping> yeah, its just a seeder
<whyrusleeping> but its the farthest i've gone down the registry route so far
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<Chris___> @whyrusleeping: Blockchain seems like a good fit for keeping a registry distributed and consistent. What do you think of that as a solution?
<whyrusleeping> What would you actually store in the blockchain?
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<Chris___> A ledger of human-readable package references and their corresponding IPFS hashes as transactions
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: migration on pollux ~6h remaining
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: yay
<lgierth> it skipped one key which had "no .data"
<whyrusleeping> Chris___: i don't think that would work too well
<whyrusleeping> i think storing a ref pointing to the latest head of a dataset representing the index might be reasonable to put in a blockchain
<Chris___> @whyrusleeping: I'm sure you know better than I do. Would you mind explaining?
<whyrusleeping> well, an index is very large
<whyrusleeping> and blockchains dont really enjoy lots of data being dumped in them
<whyrusleeping> so you have to find a way to make your data smaller
<whyrusleeping> which is where ipfs comes in,, you can simply store the ipfs hash of your data in the blockchain
<whyrusleeping> and people can read the index through ipfs
<whyrusleeping> lgierth: yeah, the no data thing is fine. Just means at some point the node was killed during a write
<Chris___> @whyrusleeping: So, to keep up to date you follow the ref to get the current index of packages... makes sense. A transaction is then to update the index and add the new hash to the chain?
<whyrusleeping> yeap
<Chris___> Clever. If this idea doesn't sound fundamentally stupid to you, I think I might give it a go.
<whyrusleeping> yeah, you could give it a shot
<whyrusleeping> but before you even think of all the blockchain stuff, i'd write the index stuff first
<lgierth> migration time remaining: ~4h
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<Kubuxu> Chris___: which blockchain are you planning to use?
<Chris___> @whyrusleeping: Sure. Do you already have concrete ideas on how to do that?
<whyrusleeping> nope, not really
<Chris___> @Kubuxu: Full disclosure: (please try not to groan) I'm still learning my way around the blockchain space, so I don't know.
<lgierth> me too! i've been ignorant about it for a long time
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vKtto
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 2df8dc5 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2924 from ipfs/feat/repo-verify...
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<Kubuxu> Chris___: On your place I would look at Ethereum, then you could have contract that would be just storing hash to an index but you need to figure out how to handle decentralized upgrade to the index.
<Kubuxu> You could also store ref on a per package basis but then you have problem of name squatting.
<Kubuxu> if name isn't cryptographic, or pre/post fixed with random string you always have problem of name squating in distributed package (and really name) managers.
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<Chris___> @Kubuxu: I see your point... I'll have to think on that. Gonna be AFK for about 15min. I'll try to come back with intelligent questions.
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<lgierth> the log file of the migration is great, it replays the whole progress estimation :P
<lgierth> ~3h now
<voxelot> Chris___ Kubuxu: I am actually working on a contract to track the head of ipfs logs after having a talk with whyrusleeping earlier this week
<voxelot> something along the lines of ipfs-hyperlog that can work for several types of applications (distributed github/reddit/... low frequency state change apps)
<voxelot> more info on this next week
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<whyrusleeping> voxelot: <3
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<alu> this is what it looks like when you browse reddit https://u.teknik.io/6dFjS.png
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<Chris___> @voxelot: Can you tell me any more about that?
<voxelot> Chris___: still
<voxelot> Formulating ideas
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<voxelot> But it should be fairly simple to log events in a contract. I've done that before
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<voxelot> I want to expand and have a contract act as a controller that can create maybe different types of logs
<Chris___> @lgierth @Kubuxu @whyrusleeping: Name squatting is definitely a problem. It's not super hard to verify identity via a key, but verifying who has a right to a name is impossible. How about assigning a pronounceable name based on a user's public key? This, in addition to the vendor and package name that they provide should uniquely specify a given package. The canonical owner of a package only needs to publish this additional name for
<Chris___> @lgierth @Kubuxu @whyrusleeping: The naming convention could follow a similar method to how urbit handles network addresses? Take the public key and deterministically map the numbers to pseudo-english pronounceable syllables.
<r0kk3rz> voxelot: sounds good :)
<Chris___> @voxelot: sounds pretty cool. I think I need to read up on Ethereum contracts
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<voxelot> Chris___: Yeah look into blockchain identity as well. The folks at consensys like Chris Lundkvist have put a lot of cool thought into how to map public keys to all sorts of identity features mapped to ipfs objects
<Chris___> @voxelot: Do you have any links to that?
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<voxelot> Chris___: Oof tons of places to start, check out the evolution of web of trust ideas with PKI and the blockchain id spec by block stack https://blockstack.org/docs
<voxelot> they were early inspirations to how ethereum is being used
<voxelot> unfortunately they just closed sourced the code for how uport actually operates
<voxelot> but at its core it is essentially just registering ethereum public key to ipfs hash containing more information
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<voxelot> Chris has put in a ton of work on proxy contract to control different type of identity and way to reg that one public key to many types of id systems
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<voxelot> ipfs can fit in nice to the type of low frequency consensus you get from blockchains that can store much information but can easily agree to the curent state of a link to easily accessible data over ipfs
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<Chris___> Certainly looks that way. Trying to figure out blockstack now
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<voxelot> Two big problems that need work in these systems is 1) what happens if you lose your private key. and 2) Easy user interface to using a private key as your login to everything and proof of ownership to many things... mobile 0.o
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<ansuz> if you lose your private key the dementors come and eat your soul
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: ooooh a varint in multigram will be fine! nice
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<Kubuxu> lgierth: you can do 1bit varint
<lgierth> ansuz: next time we meet i shall show you my invention hat
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<ansuz> lgierth: sounds cool
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<lgierth> Kubuxu: i know -- the thing i was worried about is that it expands and is not fixed-width
<ansuz> but I hope it's not a fedora
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<Kubuxu> yeah
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<lgierth> but it won't expand on its own, just as calling code adds protocols to a multigram connection
<Kubuxu> the tree has constant size but is more complex
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<lgierth> so its fine and the calling code can infer the overhead
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: merged
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<Kubuxu> ty
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<Kubuxu> starting to run tests on C1, I hope we will know the truth
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<Kubuxu> but that 5% loss might be true
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<Kubuxu> this test just won't benefit from caching
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<Kubuxu> and that 5% is 0.14ms added on average
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<Chris___> @voxelot: Thanks!
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<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: any final decisions: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/2942#issuecomment-230890369 ?
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<kevina> Kubuxu: did you run the benchmark more than once? I got very inconstant results.
<Kubuxu> kevina: it is empty bare metal node, look at stdev of the results.
<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: could you run the benchmarks on that machine for kevina's PR?
<Kubuxu> Will do.
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<kevina> Could you get stddev for PatchOpsPerSec?
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<kevina> whyrusleeping, Kubuxu: note that when I ran it the first time DirAddOps was slower, but only if it was run on a new repo.
<Kubuxu> kevina: I am running all of them on empty repo
<kevina> After the blocks are in the datastore there is no difference.
<Kubuxu> why is that?
<kevina> Do you clear the repo between runs?
<kevina> re: why is that? No idea.
<Kubuxu> yes `rm -rf ~/.ipfs`
<Kubuxu> On empty:
<Kubuxu> Results Before After % Change
<Kubuxu> PatchOpsPerSec 66.91 70.64 5.57%
<Kubuxu> DirAddOpsPerSec 52.65 53.83 2.25%
<Kubuxu> DirAddOpsStdev 1.53 1.93 25.90%
<Kubuxu> Add10MBTime 2.75 2.84 3.35%
<Kubuxu> Add10MBStdev 0.05 0.12 155.66%
<Kubuxu> Cat1MBTime 140.50 135.34 -3.67%
<Kubuxu> Cat1MBStdev 19.61 9.53 -51.42%
<Kubuxu> Will run both with something in repo
<kevina> Kubuxu, it is not if something is the repo. It is if DirAddOpsPer was run before on that repo.
<Kubuxu> hmm interesting
<whyrusleeping> oh, super lame
<whyrusleeping> rand.Seed() isnt getting called
<whyrusleeping> er
<whyrusleeping> nvm, that doesnt matter
<whyrusleeping> I'm getting (on spinny metal disks):
<whyrusleeping> Results Before After % Change
<whyrusleeping> PatchOpsPerSec 43.17 45.36 5.09%
<whyrusleeping> DirAddOpsPerSec 515.62 521.47 1.14%
<whyrusleeping> DirAddOpsStdev 41.72 64.39 54.32%
<whyrusleeping> Add10MBTime 1.04 1.06 2.10%
<ansuz> hi whyrusleeping
<whyrusleeping> Add10MBStdev 0.12 0.14 9.33%
<whyrusleeping> Cat1MBTime 197.35 169.51 -14.11%
<whyrusleeping> Cat1MBStdev 457.99 283.64 -38.07%
<whyrusleeping> ansuz: sup
<ansuz> cryptpad things
<whyrusleeping> you gonna visit me in lisbon sometime in the next few weeks?
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<ansuz> you're in lisbon?
<ansuz> since when?
<whyrusleeping> since the 12th of July
<Kubuxu> ansuz: we will be since 12th
<ansuz> nice
<ansuz> hmm
<ansuz> the queen of hyperboria wants to see more of europe while she's here
<ansuz> she was interested in spain, but portugal is basically spain
<Kubuxu> say Hi to the Queen from me
<ansuz> right?
<ansuz> Kubuxu: will do
<whyrusleeping> portugal is basically spain, yeah
<ansuz> thought so
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: not convinced that https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/2890 is doing any good, it seams to slow down CAT.
<kevina> Kubuxu: opinions?
<kevina> Wait on this one to until after ipfs-0.4.3?
<Kubuxu> kevina: let me finish the second run
<Kubuxu> we already bumed the block cache off 0.4.3
<kevina> I know.
<Kubuxu> I plan to get good metrics into go-ipfs in following week so we better know hotspots
<whyrusleeping> i'm fine bumming both PRs off of 0.4.3
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<kevina> okay, I think we need a better understanding of where the cache can be helpful, and also how much CPU time is used to retrieve the block and decode the protobuf
<kevina> otherwise there may not be much benefit over the OS level disk cache
<Kubuxu> kevina: I've posted my results.
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<kevina> Kubuxu: let's take this to the issue so there is a written record...
<Kubuxu> kk
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<whyrusleeping> Kubuxu: you think you could work on making `ipfs get` have a working progress bar?
<whyrusleeping> its on our Q2 goals
<whyrusleeping> if youre busy i can get to it too
<Kubuxu> I've started working on metrics, if you want me to do it I can do it, but I will be off to sleep quite quickly.
<Kubuxu> whyrusleeping: who takes it? you or me? 3, 2, 1. decistion
<whyrusleeping> i'll take it
<Kubuxu> kk
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* Kubuxu just cloned Go repo to ~/.vim/bundle and vim plugin to go/src ...
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<lgierth> better than the other way around
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<chewieQC> Is it possible to use rsync to merge 2 ipfs repo together and keep all the pins?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 1 new commit to feat/auto-migrate: https://git.io/vKtH2
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/auto-migrate f24214a Jeromy: add a test for auto migrations cli interface...
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: the migration has gone through all blocks, i'm not sure what it's doing now
<whyrusleeping> other migration things?
<whyrusleeping> i'm sure its having a good time
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<lgierth> there we go
<lgierth> ===> Migration 3 to 4 succeeded!
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<lgierth> 223.48user 240.40system 4:37:30elapsed 2%CPU
<lgierth> 3927585 blocks
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping created feat/get-progress (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vKt5f
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/get-progress 43cd49d Jeromy: fix progress bar in ipfs get...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping opened pull request #2948: fix progress bar in ipfs get (master...feat/get-progress) https://git.io/vKt5J
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<whyrusleeping> wooo!
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<Kubuxu> chewieQC: you can merge blockstores, but for pins you will have to use commands
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<whyrusleeping> chewieQC: i think it would be pretty easy to write a little tool to merge ipfs repos
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth created feature/api-gateway-webui (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vKtpM
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/api-gateway-webui 39bef0d Lars Gierth: gateway: on api, restrict to webui...
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth opened pull request #2949: gateway: on api, restrict to webui (master...feature/api-gateway-webui) https://git.io/vKtpb
<chewieQC> Thank you kubuxu and whyrusleeping, I will rsync and then use the separate DB I have of my content to repin everything and everything should work
<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feat/get-progress at 43cd49d: https://git.io/vKthR
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<lgierth> whyrusleeping: i think biham might be offline for a day or two for the repo migration
<whyrusleeping> a day or two? damn
<whyrusleeping> okay
<lgierth> ok maybe not that long
<lgierth> half a day
<lgierth> pollux was ~1.5T, biham is something between 5T and 10T
<lgierth> i don't wanna scan the whole repo right now for the exact size
<lgierth> zzz