lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: Latest go-ipfs release v0.4.2, available at https://dist.ipfs.io -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 -- Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
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<Kubuxu> M-Shrike: try `ipns name publish QmUNLLsPACCz1vLxQVkXqqLX5R1X345qqfHbsf67hvA3Nn`
<Kubuxu> it will clear up your /ipns/
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<M-Shrike> Kubuxu (IRC): Thanks it all works now
<lgierth> Kubuxu: do we publish an empty ipns entry by default, if `ipfs name publish` has never been run?
<lgierth> M-Shrike: oh i meant not because of the formatting, but because of the number of lines
<Kubuxu> hmm, then we should make mount handle that
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<Kubuxu> there is no point to publishing empty entry really
<lgierth> well
<lgierth> i got 99 problems, and FUSE is about 57 of them
<lgierth> :)
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<davidar> lgierth (IRC): heh, irc with its lack of multiline posts :p
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<Kubuxu> !pin QmSnF25VmgzvUv4rzJtP3o13QVobjsR95HxD1oC6ycqQrZ noffle/fallback-ipfs-shell
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmSnF25VmgzvUv4rzJtP3o13QVobjsR95HxD1oC6ycqQrZ
<kpcyrd> Kubuxu: can you pin this for me? QmaDVC3HXBV2vJ6mCVrLbSQeSkFkMicsAkLxgMp587pnKK pinbot doesn't like me yet :)
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<Kubuxu> kpcyrd: I will pin it on my own server.
<Kubuxu> Is that ok?
<kpcyrd> sure
<kpcyrd> thanks :)
<Kubuxu> done
<Kubuxu> QmSnF25VmgzvUv4rzJtP3o13QVobjsR95HxD1oC6ycqQrZ!unpin
<Kubuxu> !unpin QmSnF25VmgzvUv4rzJtP3o13QVobjsR95HxD1oC6ycqQrZ
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs-api] ColeMorton opened pull request #320: Fix cat stream bug (example-add...example-add) https://git.io/vKamR
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<achin> mrow
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vKazU
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master dbc1d3f Péter Szilágyi: Makefile, bin: Support multiple GOPATH components...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 0e4c195 Jeromy Johnson: Merge pull request #2975 from djdv/makefile-win-fix...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/master 228c4db Dominic Della Valle: Fix Makefile on Windows...
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<waldonck> The IPFS community doesn't have a Contributor License Agreement, does it?
<richardlitt> No. We sign off for go-ipfs, and plan to implement that elsewhere, but that's it at the moment.
<richardlitt> also: note, channel, that the video hangouts today won't be happening
<waldonck> Okay, thanks. Why no hangouts?
<richardlitt> Next week will be a workshop with remote accessibility in Lisbon, though, so please do check in for that and check out the issue in github.com/ipfs/community
<richardlitt> waldonck: Just wrote up a thing here, does this answer your questions? https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/123#issuecomment-233329746
<waldonck> Yes, thank you
<richardlitt> waldonck: awesome.
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* lgierth working on v0.4.3 changelog -- 110 pull requests
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<richardlitt> lgierth: anything I can do to make that easier?
<lgierth> not really -- most of the PRs are straightforward, but some need judgement as to what actually changed, because we're not doing very well with commit messages and PR descriptions
<lgierth> and it also exposes some stuff that we might wanna address before releasing, e.g. we removed a feature which was added in v0.4.2 but broke userspace and thus got reverted, which we could add back in now that whyrusleeping reworked stdin handling
<lgierth> whyrusleeping: ^
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<ipfsbot> [ipfs] RichardLitt closed pull request #180: Update URI schemes (master...update-protocol-designator) https://git.io/vo9zz
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<ipfsbot> [ipfs] RichardLitt pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vKapU
<ipfsbot> ipfs/master 252d3f2 Richard Littauer: Merge pull request #179 from ipfs/feature/reorganized-readme...
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #435: Update eslint to version 3.1.1
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<ipfsbot> [ipfs] jmithmstr opened pull request #188: Fix Lisbon meetup URL (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vKVZU
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<kholdstayre> i am reading thru https://github.com/ipfs/pm#if-you-are-new to see what needs to be done by those interested in joining the ipfs project, but the disclaimer at the top of the page says that the page no longer reflects what is actually going on. What does someone have to do/be proficient with, in order to join in on the ipfs project?
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<shangteus> hello, I have a problem with sharing directories through ipfsApi. Could anyone help me with that?
<shangteus> I was trying code from issue #28 on github, but my .get() method is freezing when I reference directory hash
<shangteus> when .add() target is a file everything is working fine, but still from the list of returned hashes only direct file hash is working as expected
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<kevina> whyrusleeping: you around?
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<jkh> whyrusleeping: ping!
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* jkh wonders if any of the ipfs developers are awake
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<yangwao> wonders if any new people comes to ask for ipfs devs :P
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<dskfjnksjfn> quick question - developing locally and having name resolve/block/file get issues in general.
<dskfjnksjfn> would someone mind trying to get this txt file i just added: QmdaxdhAcLiDPas1gK9vrvryncb4vR5u3gtcHR8jaehsFp
<lgierth> kevina: jkh: this week most devs are in lisbon and offline most of the time :) come for the workshop next week!
<lgierth> dskfjnksjfn: are you Qmf8Ps1gfrkDRXjF2vsBwEbThczvPepSzXUA3yh64aSVD6?
<lgierth> (check ipfs id)
<lgierth> it might be that you're behind a mean NAT
<Nat> oh come on i don't bite
<lgierth> hah!
<lgierth> :)
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<lgierth> we'll have some pretty cool improvements for the N.AT situation in Q3
<dskfjnksjfn> @lgierth - yep
<yangwao> lol :D
<lgierth> dskfjnksjfn:yeah ok i was able to look that up using `ipfs dht findprovs <hash>`, it seems i just can't connect
<yangwao> lgierth: what kind of improvements?
<yangwao> nah this nat problems ;(
<lgierth> yangwao: circuit switching (relay) and most notably packet switching (yes, ipfs will be getting a proper overlay network :D)
<yangwao> o.O
<yangwao> ok, b/c I need working nat traversal for my ipfs-hypercube as well
<yangwao> ;)
<Nat> actually this reminds me, i was supposed to ask this before when i joined. is there anyway to send messages across ipfs's mesh?
<lgierth> Nat: good question, i'm not super familiar with the DHT part -- it might be possible. for exchanging blocks, you need to be connected to the peer. but simple messages might work
<lgierth> daviddias and whyrusleeping know more
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<Nat> well, if i can send simple messages to peers asynchronously. i can build the rest
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<lgierth> async definitely not
<Nat> like instead of having to wait for a request for a block, if i can just push a message across the connection
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<Nat> lgierth: i guessed as much
<Nat> ok
<lgierth> there's no store-and-forward like functionality
<checking_in> @lgierth - thanks for checking the hash
<lgierth> in the not too distant future, NAT will not be a problem for ipfs anymore :)
<lgierth> overlay networks will save us all
<Nat> i love a good overlay
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<shangteus> can I ask if any of you is able to lookup QmXUYhJNh5Cv6XrR6X3atp4GDHMYC4EkCWTy2iHyBPKbKJ?
<jkh> lgierth: Come to the workshop in Lisbon?
<checking_in> @lgierth - I'm able to cat a file with another dev behind the same NAT. but name resolution does not seem to be working.
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<jkh> lgierth: Man I wish!
<jkh> shangteus: I think this lgierth guy seems to know something.. :)
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<jkh> shangteus: quick, jump on him before he gets away!
<lgierth> checking_in: that's probably you too eh: Qmf4chByeAEBYcYWvQ3p5CxsGk7GXttPds1FDMKXt2kPsH
<checking_in> @shangteus checking on it
<lgierth> QmRvdrsp6U3P2bzCCaFwwgEqGnpMWhtu1zjQT7qxnuZa6C
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<lgierth> eeeh shangteus that's probably you two eh: Qmf4chByeAEBYcYWvQ3p5CxsGk7GXttPds1FDMKXt2kPsH QmRvdrsp6U3P2bzCCaFwwgEqGnpMWhtu1zjQT7qxnuZa6C
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<lgierth> jkh: :)
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<shangteus> lgierth: humm? all I wanted to do was ipfs add on directory to preserve file names inside
<shangteus> lgierth: I could quite easily get my files when I was trying hashes referencing them directly
<lgierth> shangteus: i was doing `ipfs dht findprovs <hash>` with the hash you provided ^
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<jkh> lgierth: well, @shangteus has other things he’s trying to do, but all *I* am trying to do is publish a file from FreeBSD on one box and cat it on an OS X box, or vice-versa, and both of us are seeing mysteriously lengthy hangs, even when all machines in question are on the same network
<lgierth> and the two hashes i posted are nodes in the network providing that block
<jkh> For example QmTuDmegredcBVDdHos4sFcucHsvVRBSbBB27A22iErVbT - can’t seem to grab that one at all, from anywhere
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<lgierth> :(
<jkh> yet jkh@eyeball-> ipfs add commit_batch.cli
<jkh> added QmTuDmegredcBVDdHos4sFcucHsvVRBSbBB27A22iErVbT commit_batch.cli
<jkh> So, how does one debug such weird issues?
<shangteus> lgierth: just like @jkh says... there are no issues with add.. difference between us is that I can add and then get something somewhere
<jkh> We at the FreeNAS project have been kicking ourselves for over a week trying to figure out why we can’t seem to be able to do the most basic publishing of content reliably
<shangteus> and jkh couldn't get even files he added
<jkh> And @shangteus was wondering if it was ipfs or just us or something - I said it was hard to imagine 669 people being on the #ipfs channel if the technology didn’t even work. :D
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<lgierth> ah cool you're one of the freenas people <3
<jkh> lgierth: I sort of wish there was some sort of “ipfs ping” or such to demonstrate even basic P2P connectivity between two hosts
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<lgierth> so, generally `ipfs dht findprovs` and `ipfs swarm addrs` are useful
<shangteus> yeah... and as long as I was working just between two of my VMs in VPN everything looked fine to me
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<lgierth> the first gets you PeerIDs which you can grep the output of the second for
<jkh> lgierth: and if it failed, it could jump up and down about timing out connecting to the remote, or failing to open some magical port, or whatever. On that note, what port *does* ipfs use to rendevous?
<shangteus> issues started for me when I tried it over wider network
<lgierth> tcp 4001 (sometimes also udp 4002 but that's mostly disabled because of implementation issues)
<lgierth> aaand it also does hole punching so you might see ports in the >40000 range
<jkh> lgierth: So dht findprovs takes a hash I’m guessing. And if it simply hangs for a long time (well, OK, forever, that means.. what exactly?
<lgierth> that it doesn't find providers for that block
<shangteus> [root@freenas] ~# ipfs dht findprovs QmXUYhJNh5Cv6XrR6X3atp4GDHMYC4EkCWTy2iHyBPKbKJ
<jkh> lgierth: so how long does it take for an ipfs node to determine whether there are any providers at all, or if it’s a non-existent object?
<shangteus> Qmf4chByeAEBYcYWvQ3p5CxsGk7GXttPds1FDMKXt2kPsH
<shangteus> QmRvdrsp6U3P2bzCCaFwwgEqGnpMWhtu1zjQT7qxnuZa6C
<shangteus> ^C
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<shangteus> 16:49:04.189 ERROR commands/h: net/http: request canceled client.go:247
<lgierth> you can also check `ipfs swarm peers`just make sure you're connected to someone
<shangteus> [root@freenas] ~# ipfs get QmXUYhJNh5Cv6XrR6X3atp4GDHMYC4EkCWTy2iHyBPKbKJ
<shangteus> I could do first one, but get is hanging anyway
<lgierth> everything starting in QmSoL is ipfs.io default nodes
<jkh> lgierth: OK, now that I’m poking at this a bit more (thanks for the help btw, both @shangteus and I are ipfs newbies - we understand file storage, but not ipfs!) I have an even more fundamental question. Remember that OS X box I said I did the “ipfs add” from, and it returned QmTuDmegredcBVDdHos4sFcucHsvVRBSbBB27A22iErVbT ? Well, *on that very same machine* I can’t get the same hash back. Wouldn’t that same machine be a provider for its own content
<jkh> jkh@eyeball-> /usr/local/bin/ipfs dht findprovs QmTuDmegredcBVDdHos4sFcucHsvVRBSbBB27A22iErVbT
<jkh> <hang forever>
<jkh> The IPFS daemon is running, I see it...
<shangteus> lgierth: in my case I have like 50 entries in swarm peers, I can `dht findprovs <hash>` for my hash, but there is no any of these hashes (from findprovs) in `ipfs swarm addrs` output
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* shangteus wonders why @jkh is getting different types of issues with the same commands on the same version
<jkh> lgierth: I’m starting to wonder if maybe the OS X port of ipfs has some… issues.
<lgierth> oh haha that's sketchy
<jkh> lgierth: I’m running the very latest binary from ipfs.io for OS X but I can’t do the same add / findprovs <for that hash> sequence on OS X that I can on FreeBSD 64 bit
<lgierth> sorry i'm way overdue for bed, but whyrusleeping is gonna *love* this issue :D
<shangteus> lgierth: what does it mean when I can `findprovs`, but then can't find any of them in `swarm addrs`?
<lgierth> shangteus: i'm not sure -- i'm seeing the same
<jkh> lgierth: sorry…. If I was anywhere near Lisbon I’d be right over there.. :)
<xelra> Just an off-topic question. Which IDE are you guys using for Go?
<lgierth> i use sublime, some use vim
<lgierth> jkh: :)
<jkh> I use cat(1)
<jkh> it really discourages mistakes
<shangteus> vim is good IDE for every language
<jkh> shangteus: you meant emacs
<lgierth> jkh shangteus: try giving your daemons a kick every now and then (restart)
<jkh> shangteus: a common typo
<xelra> Just text editor? Is the plugin for IntelliJ any good?
<lgierth> and maybe try latest master