haad changed the topic of #ipfs to: IPFS Workshop starting Monday 10am UTC+1 @ Beta-i, Avenida Casal Ribeiro 28, Lisbon (Livestream the event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvGAJbywq-0; Join us on slack: https://github.com/ipfs/2016-Q3-Workshop/issues/13; Join our break out sessions this afternoon: https://github.com/ipfs/2016-Q3-Workshop/issues/12) -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs --
<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid created pm/roadmap-update (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vKdmU
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/pm/roadmap-update 17d966a David Dias: Create milestones 2 through 7 and add respective tasks and notes to them
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid opened pull request #375: Update project roadmap (master...pm/roadmap-update) https://git.io/vKdm9
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] diasdavid pushed 1 new commit to pm/roadmap-update: https://git.io/vKd3y
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/pm/roadmap-update a8c5db3 David Dias: add waffle badge to the README and pointer to roadmap
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] thomas-gardner opened pull request #2995: mount: ensure a private key is loaded before mounting /IPNS/ (master...fix/mount-offline-panic) https://git.io/vKdBc
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<dawuud> hey ipfs devs
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<dawuud> let's work on tor integration some more
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<dawuud> it would be cool if ipfs and tahoe-lafs release tor integration at the same time
<yangwao> mm^
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<dawuud> err you wouldn't want tahoe to have proper tor integration before ipfs now would you?
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<dawuud> no pressure ;-p
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<dawuud> i started to write this https://github.com/david415/ipfs-onion-transport/blob/master/transport.go inspired by the websocket transport for ipfs... but is this the wrong way?
<dawuud> there's this other api which seems to make more sense -> https://github.com/ipfs/go-libp2p-transport
<dawuud> """If you want to make 'ipfs work over X', the first thing you'll want to do is to implement the Transport interface for 'X'."""
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<Scrxtchy> If I may ask for some help, I'm having some issues with accessing files on my server through the ipfs.io url. My security set are as follows https://gist.github.com/Scrxtchy/851947d6e3d3a6540da4efaec498745a
<Kubuxu> Scrxtchy: You don't have to open 8080 or 5001 they are localhost only.
<Kubuxu> which go-ipfs version are you running?
<Kubuxu> can you try 0.4.3-rc1 from https://dist.ipfs.io/#go-ipfs
<Scrxtchy> ipfs version returns "ipfs version 0.4.2"
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<Kubuxu> can you try updating? 0.4.2 has some nasty bugs that prevented communication sometimes.
<Kubuxu> Scrxtchy: but first thing we can do is to test if I can connect to you.
<Kubuxu> can you send me result of `ipfs id`.
<Scrxtchy> QmSRjXXKt6QS7t7UfYHx1UT3dyhheNA6VTyy4GVkpnih1m
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<Kubuxu> I am commuting right now, I will be able to help you in about 40min.
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<Scrxtchy> not a problem
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<daviddias> richardlitt: would this be something you would like to help with https://github.com/ipfs/community/issues/145 (I would love your help with it :) )
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<nicolagreco> mikolalysenko: are you around?
<Kubuxu> Scrxtchy: I was able to connect with you.
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<Kubuxu> I think the best thing you can do 0.4.3
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<Kubuxu> I think the best thing you can do is to update to 0.4.3-rc1
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<nicolagreco> to all the IPLD contributors there is a new repo (soon to be the official one), where we are discussing refinements for the IPLD spec, please join the conversation since having a great spec for IPLD can really make a difference for future decentralized systems! https://github.com/ipld/specs/issues
<Scrxtchy> Kubuxu alright, running migrations now
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<daviddias> Trying to parse my backlog efficiently, anything you want me to prioritise @dignifiedquire @haad ?
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: getting the roadmap for js-ipfs ready
<dignifiedquire> and then we need to have some calls about rxjs
<dignifiedquire> and them streams
<Scrxtchy> Kubuxu I am now able to easily get connection through ipfs.io gateway
<Scrxtchy> thanks
<nicolagreco> dignifiedquire: can you link me the rxjs library I found two projects on github
<dignifiedquire> nicolagreco: resources and links : https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/362
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<dignifiedquire> there is a version 4 and a version 5.beta and I've been using the 5.beta as it's the faster one and where most development happends
<dignifiedquire> (and it's the one netflix uses, so it has some decent real life testing behind it)
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: re: roadmap https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/pull/375
<dignifiedquire> looking
<daviddias> https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/issues/362#issue-167048633 "WARNING I am currently collecting data and information, a writeup of the exact reasons why this is happening and the issues we are currently having will be added shortly."
<daviddias> Wanna add this first so that everyone can participate in the discussion at the same level?
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: yes, still havent figured out how to describe our stream issues without pointing fingers..
<dignifiedquire> I will write sth today promised
<daviddias> Things like: Streams don't guarantee that the writes are flushed when the 'finish' event is fired, then example where we get bitten by that (ipfs-repo) and where are those threads in the nodejs project pointing that
<daviddias> + error propagation, why we need to use pump an not the native .pipe
<daviddias> dignifiedquire: thank you :)
<dignifiedquire> thank you for the waffle board :)
<dignifiedquire> looking good
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: adding aegir to waffle board to track the improvements we need from it, for e.g benchmarking
<daviddias> dignifiedquire:
<daviddias> :D
<Kubuxu> Scrxtchy: That's great
<dignifiedquire> daviddias: also I think it would be good to get the changelog/commit message thing done even before stream things as we can then start benefiting from it
<dignifiedquire> I will post some links into the issue, and maybe you can schedule a discussion time?
<whyrusleeping> I wrote a short captains log update: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/2247#issuecomment-235550716
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<daviddias> dignifiedquire: agreed
<dignifiedquire> added lots of resources
<daviddias>
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<Encrypt> dignifiedquire, daviddias, Do you know github-changelog-generator?
<Encrypt> That's what is used now for most Tox clients
<Encrypt> And my packaging script parses that changelog to automatically add the Debian changelog during the .deb creation process
<Encrypt> With that tool, there is no need to do specially-formated github commit messages
<Encrypt> So that's good
<dignifiedquire> Encrypt: at least that was the case when I started using conventional-changelog
<Encrypt> Ok, fine then :P
<dignifiedquire> but thank you :)
<daviddias> thank you Encrypt :)
<Encrypt> You're welcome
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<mikolalysenko> nicolagreco: hi
<mikolalysenko> do you want to work on writing up that stuff from last night?
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: do you think we can have the discussion today? (that way maybe some from the workshop can join in the call with you)
<dignifiedquire> whyrusleeping: lgierth you probably are interested in this as well https://github.com/dignifiedquire/aegir/issues/30
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<dignifiedquire> what is happening, just updated chrome and the toolbar looks all different OO
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<ansuz> any thoughts on ethereum classic?
<dignifiedquire> ansuz: not taking the click bait :P
<ansuz> idk what you're talking about
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<crankylinuxuser> ansuz, mainly given the Ethereum hard fork, it stands for "Code is the contract, except when monied interests lose a lot, then meh contracts lol"
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<brendyn> Is it possible to see how many nodes a seeding a file somehow?
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<ansuz> thanks for the input crankylinuxuser, maybe I'll invest in ETC
<cjd> ETC ? you mean the insecure fork of Etherium ?
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<ansuz> it's insecure?
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<cjd> didn't someone steal a whole bunch with a broken contract thingy?
<ansuz> that was just the DAO, I think
<cjd> so many acronyms
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<lgierth> CJD
<cjd> hey lars :)
<xanza> Any other way of changing the ipfs init directory other than setting the environment variable?
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<lgierth> xanza: not that i'm amare of
<xanza> Simply doesn't seem to want to work for windows.
<cjd> so lgierth WDYT of this Ether thing ?
<lgierth> i'm largely ignorant about cryptocurrencies
<cjd> probably good way to be
<lgierth> you know, i have actual stuff to do :)
<cjd> :P
<ansuz> like what?
<dignifiedquire> lying in the sun probably
<lgierth> my only thought is that the hardfork/dao-gate is a good occasion to grab a piece of the eth-cake by forking
<lgierth> right now i'm writing a postmortem :)
<cjd> I have a sneeking suspicion that a lot of people had that thought
<lgierth> yeah like ETC *cough*
<lgierth> such drama
<cjd> You can almost smell the dirty bitcoiners moving in on fresh meat
<lgierth> i wish the eth community all the best to get through this and figure out a good social process around bugs in contracts
<lgierth> hahaha
<cjd> all they have to do is pump ETC and humiliate the ETH foundation and they can "hostile takeover" Ethereum
<brendyn> mist is asking my to click Yes or No to activating the new chain. I'm too scared to press a button 0.o
<cjd> hmm
<cjd> I'd just send everything to Polonex and then you get it split for you w/o the effort
<dignifiedquire> xanza: there is
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: oh? ipfs init --help doesn't tell me
<xanza> How, exactly? I've been searching and nothing has come up.
<dignifiedquire> xanza: try running "ipfs init --config path/to/folder"
<xanza> I'll give it a shot! Thanks!
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: that's news to me, and there's no code backing that :)
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: yeaahh it's a hidden feature
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: I just tested it and it worked :P
<lgierth> ooh wait it might be on the root command
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: it is
<dignifiedquire> that's why I made this PR sometime ago: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/pull/2526
<dignifiedquire> to make it less cryptic
<xanza> dignifiedquire that works just fine! Thanks!
<dignifiedquire> lgierth: this also should answer your question on that PR ;)
<lgierth> wow these hidden root options are mean
<lgierth> ah no there they are, right at the top of ipfs --help
<daviddias> jgantunes_: heey :) welcome
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: have the option names in that PR changed in the meantime?
<daviddias> whyrusleeping and Kubuxu published the 0.4.3-rc1 in dist.ipfs.io
<daviddias> we can use that one for testing with js-ipfsd-ctl
<daviddias> it solves that bug you detected in 0.4.2
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<dignifiedquire> lgierth: nothing changed, just rebased it
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<xanza> Any way to remove an added file? Almost doesn't seem possible.
<mmuller> xanza: it's "the permanent web" :-)
<whyrusleeping> xanza: unpin it and run a garbage collection
<xanza> Thanks sleeping.
<mmuller> that just deletes it from your cache
<ansuz> hi whyrusleeping
<xanza> Well, I understand the concept of ipfs is "permanent" so I meant more removing it from the "local files" of the web interface. Sorry if I wasn't clear.
<mmuller> xanza: nah, I'm just being pedantic.
<whyrusleeping> hi ansuz
<ansuz> are you in umm
<ansuz> spain?
<ansuz> or uhh
<whyrusleeping> basically spain
<cjd> ahh shit, Jeremy woke up.. now we gotta stop trolling :|
<ansuz> romania?
<whyrusleeping> ansuz: closer
<ansuz> cool, one of our coworkers is visiting romania this week
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<cjd> so Jeremy, what do you think of the Etherium fork ?
<whyrusleeping> i'm not allowed to troll publicly anymore
<whyrusleeping> \\\:P
<ansuz> you should join #ethereumclassic then
<whyrusleeping> but i think that a bunch of the people involved made some very poor decisions and the crediblity of the platform as a whole has suffered because of it
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<dawuud> howdy
<dawuud> i'd like some direction for working on the tor integration
<dawuud> the transport layer should be implemented using this api? https://github.com/ipfs/go-libp2p-transport
<dawuud> Yawning Angel's bulb api implements a tor dialer and an onion listener
<dawuud> so i guess i'd use those to make a multiaddr-net listener and dialer
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: oooh i got it, that PR wasn't merged yet. mmh we can't just go and rename config options
<dignifiedquire> why? nobodoy knows about it :D
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: ok right, jbenet should have a last look
<lgierth> #breakinguserspace
<dignifiedquire> we can delay it until 0.5 or just make it an alias
<dawuud> ok then well i guess tahoe-lafs will have proper tor integration before ipfs ;-p as you wish
<whyrusleeping> dawuud: the go-libp2p-transport is what you will want to implement
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<whyrusleeping> thats what my websockets package does
<lgierth> dignifiedquire: oh, people know about -c/--config on the ipfs root command though
<lgierth> let's carry on in the issue
<dignifiedquire> ok
<dawuud> whyrusleeping: aha! thanks
<whyrusleeping> dawuud: i'll actually write up that doc today
<whyrusleeping> i'm gonna start now
<dawuud> whyrusleeping: yeah implementing go-libp2p-transport makes sense to me. i've looked at that code a bit
<dawuud> what doesn't make sense to me is the code method member ConvertMultiaddr
<dawuud> like... i don't get why you want to convert a multiaddr to a netaddr
<ckwaldon1> Hey all, just wanted to ask when someone could take a look at #46 on py-ipfs-api. It doesn't seem like it's gotten any attention (which is fine, I'm sure your team is busy), but we wanted an ETA on feedback for it.
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<lgierth> ckwaldon1: sorry, now i know why i didn't get an email about your patch -- i wasn't watching the repo
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<ckwaldon1> @lgierth: it's fine
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<cjd> Looks like the bitcoiners are starting to show up https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4uuhzq/the_upcoming_resignation_of_vitalik_buterin/ #WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings
<multivac> [REDDIT] The upcoming resignation of Vitalik Buterin. (self.ethereum) | 0 points (35.0%) | 16 comments | Posted by HandofBitcoin | Created at 2016-07-27 - 13:04:46
<dignifiedquire> cjd: the global warming is strong in this one
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<dignifiedquire> daviddias: is that a stream releated bug I see: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs-api/issues/323
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<whyrusleeping> dawuud: the multiaddr to net addr conversion is just for dealing with the existing network layer
<whyrusleeping> to dial a websocket, you need to give it a websocket address in the standard format
<whyrusleeping> if we wrote a library from scratch that took multiaddrs to dial out via websockets, we wouldnt need that conversion
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] lgierth created security-gpg (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vKFV6
<ipfsbot> js-ipfs/security-gpg 4a80d02 Lars Gierth: Add security@ipfs.io GPG key
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<ipfsbot> [js-ipfs] lgierth opened pull request #376: Add security@ipfs.io GPG key (master...security-gpg) https://git.io/vKFVH
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<kanej> The interface-ipfs-core api now has 'cat' taking only a multihash, whereas previously js-ipfs-api 'cat' accepted a ref path, is this likely to remain the case?
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<lgierth> daviddias: that's a good question ^ -- i think it should implicitly resolve?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth created feat/gpg-key (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vKFrz
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feat/gpg-key 834fcfa Lars Gierth: assets: add security@ipfs.io GPG key...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] lgierth opened pull request #2997: assets: add security@ipfs.io GPG key (master...feat/gpg-key) https://git.io/vKFof
<Kubuxu> lgierth, kanej it should be taking a path
<Kubuxu> the hash only should be deprecated and/or the way of: accept all formats, produce only one
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<kanej> @kubuxu in js-ipfs-api, it is using 'isIPFS.multihash' to validate the input. Should it be validating for paths, or should the test just be removed so that the backing ipfs node can validate?
<Kubuxu> kanej: I don't do js-ipfs
<Kubuxu> daviddias, dignifiedquire, haad ^^
<Kubuxu> \o cjd
<lgierth> npm install in js-ipfs just crashed my computer
<lgierth> ate like >800M ram
<Kubuxu> lol
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<lgierth> dignifiedquire: now do i run a single test in js-ipfs? i wanna run core/node-only/test-init.js
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<Kubuxu> lgierth, whyrusleeping: do we want to pin all deps of go-ipfs in single go?
<Kubuxu> I have a hash from `gx deps bundle
<Kubuxu> `
<lgierth> we aren't doing that yet?
<Kubuxu> we are pinning them as we introduce them
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<Kubuxu> but this hash contains all deps mentioned in go-ipfs (and their deps).
<lgierth> better to always just pin the bundle
<lgierth> everything else is a mess
<Kubuxu> yeah, good idea
<Kubuxu> !pin QmR4VqYH1ARhPZFjS4y9ryHhTpS4yamWCA2tc6usEBWXQF go-ipfs-0.4.3-rc1 deps bundle
<pinbot> now pinning /ipfs/QmR4VqYH1ARhPZFjS4y9ryHhTpS4yamWCA2tc6usEBWXQF
lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: Release Candidate 1 of go-ipfs v0.4.3 has been released, available at https://dist.ipfs.io -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 -- Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
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<lgierth> haad: ^ best to only change the sentence in front of the topic, and leave the rest in place
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<dawuud> whyrusleeping: ok so if i don't need to convert between multiaddr and net addr then do i need to register a codec for the protocol?
<dawuud> it seems the codecs only purpose is to convert between these two address structs
<whyrusleeping> dawuud: correct
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu created feature/makefile-cleanup (+3 new commits): https://git.io/vKF1S
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/makefile-cleanup aaa70cb Jakub Sztandera: make: use 'make -C' instead of 'cd && make'...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/makefile-cleanup ca7eaf0 Jakub Sztandera: use $(MAKE) instead of 'make' in Makefiles...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/makefile-cleanup ebb32f2 Jakub Sztandera: make: 'make clean' clears sharness too...
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu opened pull request #2999: Cleanup makefiles (master...feature/makefile-cleanup) https://git.io/vKFD4
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<ntninja> ckwaldon1 (IRC): I have started reviewing it (privately), but as I said, I'm on holidays so I'm taking my time :-P
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<ntninja> Expect some comments soon™ through
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu force-pushed feature/makefile-cleanup from ebb32f2 to 8a299fa: https://git.io/vKF92
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/makefile-cleanup 15b02a4 Jakub Sztandera: make: use 'make -C' instead of 'cd && make'...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/makefile-cleanup 84e1989 Jakub Sztandera: use $(MAKE) instead of 'make' in Makefiles...
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/feature/makefile-cleanup 2230edf Jakub Sztandera: make: run sharness in single thread...
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<dignifiedquire> lgierth: put ".only" to the top level describe block (so it reads describe.only()
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<lgierth> thanks dignifiedquire!
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* A124 been testing storj. Apart from ocasional resource spikes works solidly.
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<lgierth> yoshuawuyts mikolalysenko: one of you home or close to home?
<mikolalysenko> nope
<yoshuawuyts> lgierth: nope
<lgierth> mikolalysenko yoshuawuyts: are you at beta-i too, or somewhere closer?
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<yoshuawuyts> lgierth: beta-i
<lgierth> ok on my way
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<mikolalysenko> beta-i
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<whyrusleeping> dawuud: ping
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<dawuud> whyrusleeping: pong!
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<JosiahHaswell[m]> In go-ipfs, are there any implications to leaving a node open? I'm trying to add a file using the commands as an example, and for small files it works fine, but it hangs on files larger than a Mb or two
<JosiahHaswell[m]> I don't see the same behavior in go-ipfs, so I'm not quite sure what's going on
<JosiahHaswell[m]> IPFS will add a 10MB file in .2 seconds, using the coreunix.Adder similarly will hang on a similarly sized file
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<Kubuxu> JosiahHaswell[m]: you mean js-ipfs?
<JosiahHaswell[m]> @Kubuxu no, go-ipfs
<crankylinuxuser> Hmm. That sounds like a corrupt .ipfs datastore. I had that a while back with a bad reboot on a server.
<crankylinuxuser> I just renamed .ipfs to .ipfs-backup, and just ipfs init -e
<JosiahHaswell[m]> Well, I have nothing in it initially, and diffing the repository I create programmatically with a new one created by IPFS doesn't produce meaningful differences
<Kubuxu> >In go-ipfs, are there any i .. I don't see the same behavior in go-ipfs
<Kubuxu> that is why I am confused
<Kubuxu> oh, you mean using js-ipfs-api?
<JosiahHaswell[m]> No, the IPFS program works fine. A program that I'm writing that is embedding IPFS is not working as expected, so I suspect I'm using IPFS incorrectly
<JosiahHaswell[m]> I'm trying to extract the IPFS commands into an easily-embeddable API. I'd be happy to contribute the results back to IPFS
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<crankylinuxuser> Yeah, I get that, JosiahHaswell[m] . I've used it extensively in Node-Red with the Exec node. Mainly, I use a lot of "ipfs add -w -q --pin=false [filename]"
<crankylinuxuser> and grab the last line. That represents the root multihash.
<dawuud> whyrusleeping: cool. thanks!
<whyrusleeping> dawuud: thats still a rough draft
<whyrusleeping> so if you have questions and feedback let me know
<whyrusleeping> but it should help
<JosiahHaswell[m]> @crankylinuxuser Yeah, we unfortunately can't just bundle the IPFS executable
<crankylinuxuser> well, true that.
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<JosiahHaswell[m]> Ah. Found the issue
<JosiahHaswell[m]> The adder's progress was set to "true" but there wasn't a progress channel
<JosiahHaswell[m]> Not immediately clear why small additions worked
<JosiahHaswell[m]> And the thread dump seemed to be parked on a leveldb operation
<JosiahHaswell[m]> Err. Thread dump indicated that it was parked*
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<lapinot> plop
<lapinot> I had a question while reading through the specs.. What is the relation between IPNS and IPRS?
<lapinot> Isn't that supposed to be the same thing?
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<lgierth> lapinot: IPRS is supposed to be the foundation of a new version of IPNS, where the entries/pointers are first-class ipfs objects themselves, but we haven't implemented it yet
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<Kubuxu> JosiahHaswell[m]: small files do not create progress bar
<lapinot> lgierth: cool, indeed current IPNS has some limitations.. how is it actually implemented?
<lapinot> (both the current IPNS and the new IPRS)
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<lgierth> currently a node just publishes a signed message saying "i'm pointing to /ipfs/Qmfoobar", where publishing means writing it to K other nodes
<lgierth> this message isn't really specified, and IPRS will make it a proper thing, with pluggable methods of signing and ordering
<lgierth> and it'll be a proper ipld data structure
<lgierth> btw ipns can make use of dns for human readable names
<lgierth> if you set a TXT record for e.g. _dnslink.example.com containing "dnslink=/ipfs/QmFoobar", you can do /ipns/example.com
<lgierth> and the http-to-ipfs gateway turns Host headers in requests into /ipns/<value> (that's how e.g. ipfs.io and dist.ipfs.io work)
<lapinot> nice.. actually I am working on distributed dbs on top of ipfs and such a thing could provide a standalone dns service
<lgierth> distributed dbs? cool! have you checked out orbit and the work on CRDTs on ipfs?
<lapinot> yeah! definitely intersting work done on the side of crdts! Actually I took the other way around: crdts provide availibility but not much consistency, my work focuses on consistency (kinda like a paxos db)
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<lapinot> I used vanilla ipfs objects but I am interested in the formalisation of ipld.. Is the ipld already implemented? Is it more generic than normal ipfs objects or do they have the same interface?
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<lgierth> nicolagreco: that's for you ^
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<lgierth> nicola can tell you way more about ipld than i :)
<lgierth> i'm about to fall asleep, good night!
<lapinot> good night ;)
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