lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: Please update to v0.4.2, the v03x network is shutting down on July 14th -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 -- Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
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<alu> if I write a document and say "elephant"
<alu> hash that, then go in and write "elephant king"
<alu> get a totally new hash
<alu> theres no connection between these two ?
<alu> I'm curious if IPFS records changes of a file like how you see the git log
<voxelot> alu: depends on the hash algorithm, but a good one will disperse evenly of the space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function#Uniformity
<multivac> [WIKIPEDIA] Hash function#Uniformity | "A hash function is any function that can be used to map data of arbitrary size to data of fixed size. The values returned by a hash function are called hash values, hash codes, hash sums, or simply hashes. One use is a data structure called a hash table, widely used in computer software for rapid data..."
<kpcyrd> alu: ipfs doesn't keep track of revisions of your files
<kpcyrd> alu: it's more like a key value store that's able to reference other keys as children, that's how you get files and directories
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<deltab> alu: if your files are large enough, they'll be chunked, and matching chunks will have the same hash
<deltab> alu: also, though it hasn't been defined exactly how it'll work, git-style history is planned, using ipld
<deltab> in the mean time there's a program to import git repos into ipfs
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<Bheru27> hey alu
<alu> hmm
<Bheru27> gm here
<alu> Idk who that is
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<M-Kodo> any ETA on filecoin?
<heliumcraft> hi
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<heliumcraft> when doing ipfs.object.get(myhash, function() { console.log(arguments) }) I get "not valid multihash
<heliumcraft> at cleanMultihash"
<heliumcraft> is there something special that needs to be done with the identifier ?
<kpcyrd> heliumcraft: does your hash start with /ipfs/ ?
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<heliumcraft> I was trying ipfs.object.get("QmZULkCELmmk5XNfCgTnCyFgAVxBRBXyDHGGMVoLFLiXEN", function() { console.log(arguments) })
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<voxelot> heliumcraft: thanks for pointing that out, looks like a bug with js-ipfs-api, could you try specifying an encoding like this https://github.com/ipfs/interface-ipfs-core/blob/master/src/object.js#L225
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<Akaibu> https://github.com/ipfs/ipld-examples "(todo) minecraft - for a minecraft like game." jbenet what exactly did you have in mind for this?
<Akaibu> i'm not even too sure how ipfs could be relevant to minecraft
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<Ineentho[m]> I saw a github issue (can't find it now though) about js-go compatibillity, is that something that is actively worked on?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] RichardLitt closed pull request #2968: Proposal for the Trusted Private Network feature (master...Trusted-Private-Network) https://git.io/vK4dq
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<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #432: Update i18next to version 3.4.1
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<M-kalmi> Akaibu (IRC): minecraft maps can be huge both in filesize and in in-game size, and minecraft clients request parts of the map on-demand, and sometimes servers (or the network) have trouble keeping up.
<M-kalmi> Players can fly over the map at great speeds on some servers.
<ion> I hope Minecraft only transfers the seed and the diff to the chunk generated with that seed.
<ipfsbot> [webui] greenkeeperio-bot opened pull request #433: Update three to version 0.79.0
<xelra> Has anyone noticed that ipfsbot is writing with subscript?
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<M-kalmi> ion (IRC): Back in the day when my brother was into it, I remember seeing the map appear in a block-by-blocks-ish manner in multiplayer. iirc sometimes you could see the caves under the ground while it was loading the map. There were a lot of inefficiencies in minecraft that I was horrified by.
<ion> Producing the diff in Morton order might be nice and efficient.
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<M-kalmi> As of 1.2.1 (2012) "multiplayer servers will no longer send the seed to clients", so at that time there were no diffs for sure. I highly doubth much has changed.
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<ion> Heh, I'm not sure how that helps. If they are worried of people using mods that locate all the diamonds or something, people can just download the chunks and do it anyway.
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] whyrusleeping deleted feat/mdag-caching at bf23516: https://git.io/vKBjQ
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<area> Anyone else having difficulty downloading from dist.ipfs.io?
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<M-kalmi> Would there be any interest in adding an off-by-default flag/switch to ipfs that would allow it to skip rehashing/refetching files if the mtime hasn't changed since the last add/get?
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<ehmry> just a heads up, binary links are dead and the manual install instructions don't work
<ehmry> ok, links are working
<ehmry> sorry
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<damongant> lgierth, you around?
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<ipfsbot> [go-ipfs] Kubuxu pushed 1 new commit to patch-1: https://git.io/vKRMS
<ipfsbot> go-ipfs/patch-1 921ae0e Jakub Sztandera: style: decapitalize error names...
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<whyrusleeping> lgierth: ping
<whyrusleeping> area, yeah, something funky is going on
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<lgierth> sorry for a bit of funky behaviour in the past hours -- one of the gateways ran out of disk space
<lgierth> it's now fixed, and i'm gonna make sure to run GC more often
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<noffle> daviddias: heya o/ how goes? I'm back from vacation and taking a look at these ipfs.files.get PRs again :) incoming soon!
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<arkadiy[m]> is there currently a working pinning API ala cubepin?
<arkadiy[m]> we want to publish artifacts to IPFS from travis and doing that via API seems easier since the container is destroyed rapidly
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<lgierth> arkadiy[m]: there isn't a way to directly pin -- what you can do is add stuff to a local daemon, then call `ipfs refs -r` on the api
<lgierth> arkadiy[m]: i think that'd be something like `ipfs.io/api/v0/refs?arg=$hash&r=true`
<lgierth> arkadiy[m]: are you mediachain-arkadiy? hi in any case o/
lgierth changed the topic of #ipfs to: The v03x network is shutting down today, please update to the latest go-ipfs v0.4.2, available at https://dist.ipfs.io -- IPFS - InterPlanetary File System -- https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs -- FAQ: https://git.io/voEh8 -- Channel logs: https://botbot.me/freenode/ipfs/ -- Code of Conduct: https://git.io/vVBS0 -- Sprints: https://git.io/voEAh
<lgierth> PSA: shutting down the v03x network *now*
<achin> do we have any dancing robots in here?
<lgierth> i have a cappucchino, that's enough haha
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<achin> multivac: dance
<achin> ipfs must hire an intern to resolve this deficiency
<lgierth> :)
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<noffle> lgierth: phasing out 0.3.x at long last? how exciting :)
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<lgierth> oh man yeah!
<lgierth> and multirekt too
<noffle> \o/
<noffle> multireq caused me so many headaches
<lgierth> it also means the gateways' diskspace is doubling
<noffle> you've GC'd all of the 03x data?
<lgierth> rm -rf /path/to/v03x-repo :)
<noffle> nice
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<kpcyrd> anybody still has the openstreetmap ipfs demo?
<lgierth> kpcyrd: it's somewhere in ipfs/archives
<lgierth> it lacks the lower zoom levels because we ran out of diskspace :) taking care of that in the next couple of days
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<kpcyrd> lgierth: nice! ipns, maybe :) ?
<lgierth> davidar_: ^
<Akaibu> theirs ipfs, ipns,ipld, what the hell else is there, i'm going to get confuse...
<lgierth> iprs
<lgierth> ipdb
<lgierth> ipps is an idea of mine for the next half a year
<lgierth> (interplanetary packet switch)
<lgierth> pinbot-v03x: botsnack
<pinbot-v03x> om nom nom
<lgierth> farewell
<M-mubot> That's very nice of you!
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<mythmon> lgierth: packet switch?
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