apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim || Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<Lewix> hi
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<wallerdev> hi
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<zenspider> https://github.com/seattlerb/minitest-autotest very rough around the edges, but I'd love some feedback
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<wallerdev> zenspider: no tests for autotest? :p
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<zenspider> wallerdev: really?
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<minim> Getting an unexpected ArgumentError when using print in a block, wondering if anyone has an idea why http://pastebin.com/x2tZqHwk
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<wallerdev> did you redefine print
<zenspider> that'd be my guess too
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<zenspider> an actual stack trace could help
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<minim> Omg I'm an idiot. I guess that's why you don't use code-y names for functions. Thanks for the help
<wallerdev> lol
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<zenspider> minim: next time you can poke around quicker with: method(:print).source_location
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<minim> Really good to know, thanks
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<wallerdev> just dont do print method(:print).source_location
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<minim> lol, noted
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<t4nk280> anyone in here
<t4nk280> anyone know what could possibly be causing this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/10336153
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<wallerdev> t4nk280: might want to ask in #rubyonrails
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<microdex> hello
<microdex> any ideas on what might be causing this, I'm stuck
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<wallerdev> lol
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<microdex2> Anyone know what might cause this:
<microdex2> `<module:NumberHelper>': uninitialized constant ActiveSupport::Autoload (NameError)
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<zenspider> not having Autoload defined in ActiveSupport? I'm guessing you knew that tho
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<microdex2> Not sure what that means
<microdex2> I'm relatively new to Ruby
<zenspider> when you refer to X, X needs to be defined. it isn't in this case.
<zenspider> WHY it isn't in the real question
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<microdex2> But its just in one of the moudles
<microdex2> It appears to be in the BitStamp gem
<zenspider> modules, yes. that doesn't matter
<microdex2> but the same gem works on another server and on my machine
<zenspider> your real problem is you're using bitstamp
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<zenspider> and they're stupid and defining unbounded dependencies on gems
<microdex2> why is that my real problem ?
<zenspider> oops
<zenspider> activesupport >= 3.1
<zenspider> and you updated gems and it broke
<microdex2> so I need to install an older activesupport ?
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<zenspider> microdex2: I would recommend not using bitstamp, since they seem to be irresponsible. I would bet that's not the only problem with the code
<zenspider> you'd have to downgrade AND uninstall the newer versions
<microdex2> bitstamp is irresponsible ?
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<zenspider> microdex2: bitstamp is just code. the authors are irresponsible.
<microdex2> ok.
<zenspider> I would file a bug to let them know this is a problem
<microdex2> good observation, thanks zenspider
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<microdex2> I have to use it anyway cause they have the best bitcoin rates
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<zenspider> good luck with that
<microdex2> so theoretically this gem can't be used in Rails 4 right?
<microdex2> since it breaks with activesupport 4.1
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<microdex2> cause I did what you recommended ( remove all the activerecord gems v4 and reinstalled bitstamp and it works )
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<zenspider> seems that way
<zenspider> next time you install/upgrade activesupport, it'll prolly bust
<microdex2> is it possible in Ruby to use the same gem @ two different versions
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<zenspider> microdex2: at the same time?
<zenspider> what does that mean?
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<leftylink> what is the difference between #ruby and #ruby-lang ? to which channel should I go for all my Ruby needs?
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<microdex2> @zenspider thanks a lot for helping me out
<microdex2> I was able to fix it by rewinding the activerecord gem to 3.1
<microdex2> I meant can one application use two of the same gems with different versions
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<fwchld> hey guys - i'm trying to compile a .rb to .exe using ocra and get the following error: pastie.org/9069380
<fwchld> should i install JRuby and run it through that? nothing in the ocra documentation that i can find specifies JRuby as a requirement...
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<BubonicPestilenc> hey all
<fwchld> hey
<BubonicPestilenc> def m(a, b, c = "1", d = {}); end; m("a", "b", nil, {userID: 1})
<BubonicPestilenc> c === NilClass, not "1"
<BubonicPestilenc> What can i specify in call to force parameter to be "default value" ?
<BubonicPestilenc> i.e. how to skip parameter in middle ? )
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<BubonicPestilenc> p.s. i know about c ||= "1";
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<leftylink> BubonicPestilenc: if you are on ruby 2.0 or more, you can use named parameters
<leftylink> and make d a named parameter
<BubonicPestilenc> yeah, i also knew this way :)
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<BubonicPestilenc> but i'm interested in non-named param )
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<BubonicPestilenc> and it looks like i won't be able to skip it...
<leftylink> in my understanding, you can't skip a positional parameter in such way
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<BubonicPestilenc> mmm
<BubonicPestilenc> 2nd question:
<BubonicPestilenc> Should i call .to_s before or after sending it through method?
<BubonicPestilenc> def a(a); b(a.to_s); end;
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<BubonicPestilenc> vs
<BubonicPestilenc> var = var.to_s; a(var); def a(a); b(a); end;
<imperator> imo method b should be able to handle it internally if it needs to
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<BubonicPestilenc> btw, messed with names -.-
<BubonicPestilenc> ok, ty
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<ponga> hey guys can i ask a question as ruby-beginner
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<glide> pontq, I'm a beginner myself, but I can try to help.
<glide> *ponga
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* t4nk825 Hello, I am practicing ruby. I just created a simple command line Todo script. Can you some review and tell me ways I could improve my coding. here is the code https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ee4da8f7c11be4c5ae74
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<apeiros> t4nk825: in def list_todo, @count should really be just count. it's a method local information
<apeiros> t4nk825: I'd also strife to separate UI and data/business logic
<apeiros> i.e., make 2 classes, ToDo and ToDoUI
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<apeiros> t4nk825: also instead of recursing menu in def menu, you should loop. recursion will somewhen be too deep and cause an exception
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<apeiros> i.e., something like: input_option = 0; while input_option != 4; puts …; input_option = gets …; case input_option … end; end
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<dagobah> t4nk825: I'd do something like: https://gist.github.com/kotay/2819c304a44bbceef063
<dagobah> Oh, he's gone.
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<dagobah> Thoughts welcome anyway :)
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<apeiros> dagobah: I would not have knowledge about the UI in the List class
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<dagobah> apeiros: Interesting, how would you have the list communicate with the UI?
<apeiros> dagobah: .each.with_index(1) do |item, count| -- then you don't need to do +1 on every iteration
<dagobah> apeiros: I do agree that it does go against the whole point of separating the concerns. I started out with List.new(UI.new) , passing in STDOUT as the default UI, but that felt like the wrong way so I switched it.
<apeiros> dagobah: either the UI has knowledge of List, or via a controller
<dagobah> apeiros: That's neat, I forgot that!
<dagobah> apeiros: I think a controller is overkill. So you think a list object should be able to "present" itself?
<apeiros> I like your UI abstraction which is independent of its task to operate on a list. I'd keep that. so with what you've done so far, I'd probably opt for 3 classes (which somewhat reflects model-view-controller paradigm)
<apeiros> dagobah: no. I think the ability to present itself should be minimal.
<apeiros> the single responsibility of the list is to manage itself.
<apeiros> or allow it to be managed
<dagobah> apeiros: I'd be curious to see how you get rid of List's need to know about the UI without a controller :)
<apeiros> dagobah: as I said, by inverting it. by having UI know about list, instead of the other way round
<workmad3> view presenters!
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<dagobah> apeiros: Oh ok, I was treating UI purely a presentational layer, not knowing about any particular objects but purely for IO.
<yorickpeterse> and decorators
<yorickpeterse> lots of them
<dagobah> Perhaps a List, ListPresenter, and UI?
<yorickpeterse> And a ViewPresenterView
<apeiros> don't forget factories
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<dagobah> seriously?
<workmad3> dagobah: this line: @list = UI.new(List.new)... why not @list = ListPresenter.new(List.new)? What does tha UI object give you?
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<workmad3> dagobah: or rather, what does that UI object give you that makes it a list? :)
<dagobah> workmad3: fair point :)
<apeiros> dagobah: I was just riding yorickpeterse's and workmad3's wave
<dagobah> I'll try again with a presenter..
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<yorickpeterse> list = ActiveList::ListView.create_list_view_from_array([10, 20, 30, 40])
<yorickpeterse> list.each_item_in_the_list_view do |item|
<yorickpeterse> end
<yorickpeterse> ^ Rubby
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<apeiros> dagobah: untested, but this is roughly how I'd do it without a controller: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/10363489
* apeiros goes for lunch, cya
<dagobah> apeiros: Beautiful, I'll have a read, looks good though :)
<apeiros> atm you could easily drop the List class and just use an Array
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<dagobah> apeiros: I like your solution, here's mine with the Presenter https://gist.github.com/kotay/2819c304a44bbceef063 out of interest, in your I see you include Enumerable and define #each, #<< #[] etc. I see this pattern alot, can you explain what you gain from something like this?
<dagobah> apeiros: It seems it just means you can do @list.each rather than @list.items.each ? In a sense, you're just making your List object an Enumerable, Array-like class right?
<dagobah> Are there any other "gains" to this approach?
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<apeiros> dagobah: at this point, there's no gain in using the List class over just an Array
<apeiros> the gain starts when you have semantical methods on the List class
<apeiros> like prioritize_item or move_item_up or whatever
<apeiros> I wouldn't want such a thing on Array
<dagobah> I see, so you can wrap behaviour around your array-like list class?
<dagobah> But still get all the enumerable goodness.
<apeiros> why wrap around? implement it in the list class itself
<dagobah> That's what I meant really.
<apeiros> ah, ok :)
<apeiros> in that case: yes
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<dagobah> So it's quite common for everything to come down to writing very small "Data Objects" which usually add business-specific behaviour/logic to ruby's core data structures?
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<apeiros> I do that, yes
<apeiros> many don't. but IMO it leads to harder-to-understand code
<dagobah> It's ironic that the simplest (and shortest) part of the code is the core of the application.
<apeiros> the more focused a class is, the easier to follow the code
<dagobah> The rest is involved in interactions.
<apeiros> yeah, UI is hard :)
<dagobah> Are you a fan of Dependancy injection?
<apeiros> I still struggle to make sense of the term. probably I do it naturally and don't recognize it as DI
<dagobah> So, for example, the UI could be a HTTP based UI of a CLI?
<apeiros> yes
<apeiros> see, I wouldn't call that DI. to me it's just exploiting duck-typing.
<apeiros> all I need is something which has puts and gets
<dagobah> So in this example a UI:Web UI:CLI, both of which implement add/delete/show etc
<apeiros> pass an object which provides that (for http e.g. via an adapter), and your stuff still works
<dagobah> Oh I see, yes.
<apeiros> in a properly designed system, you could break it apart and reuse components at almost any layer. so yes, such an approach might work too.
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<apeiros> I tended to write more abstract systems a few years ago.
<dagobah> So there's actually two distinctions, passing in objects that can "puts and gets" and being able to "present" using the UI
<apeiros> nowadays I write code mostly for the task at hand and abstract when needed
<apeiros> I found that most abstractions never got put to use and then just needlessly introduced complexity.
<dagobah> That's interesting.
<apeiros> the abstractions I do nowadays is to have clean borders, clear separations of concerns. which facilitate understanding of the program.
<dagobah> I find that takes more time upfront (and more code).
<dagobah> But as you say, increase understanding/maintainability further down the line.
<apeiros> the "more time upfront" is a matter of training IME
<apeiros> and more code should be minimal
<canton7-mac> we tend to do lots of short projects. the pressure is on to not bother with abstractions, as they suck money. however they're what saves your bacon when a last-minute requirements change comes in :P
<apeiros> if you have substantially more code, you're probably abstracting more than just for clean borders/concerns
<apeiros> i.e. you're adding abstractions of the "maybe in the future / somebody else might want to" kind
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<apeiros> the abstractions I do are of the kind "I have to do this anyway, but lets do it in the right place"
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<dagobah> Good points, tradeoffs as always.
<apeiros> I mean my code does the same as the original code and is ~30% larger. mostly because I didn't use Forwardable for List
<dagobah> Forwardable for List?
<dagobah> Do you mean you didn't just delegate to an Array?
<apeiros> I do just delegate
<apeiros> but I coded it out
<apeiros> I could have used Forwardable and not code it out
<apeiros> extend Forwardable; def_delegator :@items, :delete_at, :size, :<<, :each, :[]
<dagobah> Ah yes, I find that to be a little ugly and more work if and when I want to modify the each to say, yield something more than just the items.
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<sarkyniin> hey
<sarkyniin> oh wait
<sarkyniin> I'm dumb
<yorickpeterse> welcome to the club
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<andrius444> hi
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<canton7-mac> sure
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<peterc> With regards to the heartbleed issue and recompiling Ruby, it's reasonably unlikely many Ruby developers will be affected at the Ruby level, right?
<peterc> (That is, from a Ruby POV, it would only matter if you'd created a server at the Ruby level that used TLS.)
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<havenwood> peterc: Depends. For example ruby-install isn't vulnerable, just update your package manager openssl and it'll dynamically link. On the other hand, ruby-build still uses broken openssl even if you update your package manager, so you have to update ruby-build.
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<havenwood> peterc: OpenSSL::OPENSSL_VERSION only gets updated on compilation and may report an earlier version that what is actually dynamically linked.
<peterc> Ah, what I mean is even if someone is linked against a vulnerable version, what are the ways it could be exploited?
<peterc> As heartbeat stuff is specific to connections, I'm assuming it's probably specific to situations where you might be rolling your own daemon?
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<peterc> Aha, think I found my answer. Clients are vulnerable, not just servers.
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<peterc> So a hacked server could in theory use heartbleed on a regular client (that's using OpenSSL itself).
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<Senjai> peterc: I don't think so..
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<Senjai> peterc: Its possible, I just dont know. I would think it was the server implimentation not the client
<peterc> I'm not well informed enough to give a technical explanation, but..
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<peterc> What got me wondering was why updating Ruby made any sense if it was just for servers.. since I can't imagine anyone uses Ruby directly to run an https daemon (could be wrong though!)
<peterc> But if clients are vulnerable, even if it's an extremely unlikely situation compared to servers, then the upgrade would be worthwhile in most cases.
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<havenwood> peterc: yup, looks like there're already POC client exploits out there: https://github.com/Lekensteyn/pacemaker#readme
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<darix> peterc: also keep in mind.
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<darix> peterc: just because your openssl version reports something that is affected. it doesnt mean it is actually affected as your distributor might have backported the patch.
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<darix> peterc: i would test if you are really affected with the little tools from emboss?
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<peterc> Ah, I don't even run openssl modern enough to be affected ;-) Just needing to give the general public the "quick, upgrade!" or "this doesn't really matter unless you're doing [x]" advice.
<peterc> And it seems to learn more towards the former even in this case.
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<crankharder> anyone know how to execute something after all tests have run while using minitest?
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<Senjai> crankharder: after(:suite)
<Senjai> crankharder: err... nvm, thats rspec
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<crankharder> SimpleCov/Coverage operate very... oddly
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<crankharder> I added a call to 'exit' to the very first test that runs in my suite (effectively ending the test suite early) and SimpleCov and/or Coverage still manage to write a new coverage report to coverage/
<crankharder> how would it be doing that?
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<workmad3> crankharder: with an at_exit callback
<anjen> HI folks, Sorry, maybe a bit of a newbish question. How would I issue the equivalent to the linux df- h command from within Ruby?
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<crankharder> workmad3: but the test suit didn't run?
<crankharder> some serious magic happening here
<Senjai> anjen: `df -h`
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<anjen> Senjai: thanks. Really that simple? From within a method?
<Senjai> anjen: Using backticks
<Senjai> anjen: Backticks (``) call a system program and return its output. As opposed to the first approach, the command is not provided through a string, but by putting it inside a backticks pair.
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<workmad3> crankharder: the test suite still loaded simplecov
<workmad3> crankharder: which started it up and loaded anything like an at_exit handler
<anjen> Senjai: Ah...I see, thank you VERY much for the info and for the link. Much appreciated.
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<crankharder> sure, i understand, but if the tests dont run how does it get a coverage report on what lines have been executed and what haven't ?
<workmad3> crankharder: and then it tracked stuff like how many lines of code were hit before closing... which in your case would be things like 'class Foobar'
<sarkyniin> hey
<sarkyniin> if I had to pass a hash to a block
<sarkyniin> how would I go to do it
<sarkyniin> if I couldn't pass it through |*args|
<crankharder> hmm, okay, that makes sense
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<workmad3> crankharder: so 162 lines of code were 'loaded' (probably your test_helper and anything it loads) and 74 were actually hit
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<wallerdev> sarkyniin: your question doesnt make much sense?
<crankharder> yea, that makes sense. still can't figure out why it won't give me coverage on {app,test}/{classes,modules} -- my suite is definitely loading and executing those tests
<wallerdev> cant you just do yield my_hash
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<workmad3> crankharder: maybe the wrong profile of what to check is being loaded?
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<workmad3> crankharder: that's where the magic happens
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<sarkyniin> wallerdev: what does yield do?
<wallerdev> calls the block for the method
<wallerdev> i feel like you might be using the wrong terms in your question or something, no idea what you're trying to do
<sarkyniin> basically I have a hash
<sarkyniin> and I'm using a block
<sarkyniin> and at a moment in that block I need to modify the hash
<crankharder> workmad3: those lines aren't adding the actual files, it's just grouping them, so "add_group 'Classes', 'app/classes'" has no effect
<crankharder> it adds the group, but there are no files picked up to put into the group
<sarkyniin> but the problem is, I can't pass the hash at the beginning of the block because of the code I'm working on
<wallerdev> maybe post a code sample haha
<sarkyniin> may not make much sense
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<sarkyniin> I mean
<sarkyniin> updated, I forgot something that I corrected
<wallerdev> you can access users from inside the block
<sarkyniin> undefined local variable or method `users' for #<ChatHandler:0x007f289989e888>
<wallerdev> dont need to pass it to the block
<crankharder> workmad3: even running SimpleCov w/o the rails profile doesn't include all tests in test/**/
<sarkyniin> I'm probably sounding like someone really dumb right now
<sarkyniin> I don't know why but it doesn't seem to want to work
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<wallerdev> well it should work okay in the sample you posted
<wallerdev> maybe the issue is somewhere else
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<sarkyniin> hm
<sarkyniin> are variables shared
<sarkyniin> if I do "require file.rb"
<apeiros> local variables are local - not shared
<apeiros> constants and globals will be visible
<sarkyniin> oh ok
<apeiros> but don't use globals
<sarkyniin> I don't want to use a constant tho
<sarkyniin> since I need to modify it
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<sarkyniin> I placed the hash in a separate file since I want to access it from multiple files
<wallerdev> haha
<wallerdev> put it in one file, and load the other files in that one
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<sarkyniin> what do you mean
<sarkyniin> oh
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<sarkyniin> I don't think that would work
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<sarkyniin> basically every file is a command
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<sarkyniin> and loading all the other files in this one would cause problems
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<wallerdev> you want your hash defined in your main file, then you can load the other files, and pass the hash to those methods you defined in those files
<sarkyniin> okay
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<bougyman> have you ever seen 'bundle exec' wipe out a Gemfile.lock?
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<bougyman> this is happening consistently here.
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<crankharder> So, I've been seeing the SimpleCov doesn't play nice with rails 4.x - I'm not seeing any coverage reported after the default test suite is run. I'd like to try to figure out if it's SimpleCov, or purely ruby's Coverage, but it's unclear how I can execute "Coverage.result" after all the tests have run in rails' default suite
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<crankharder> if I drop Kernel#at_exit in test_helper it's seemingly executed before the tests are actually run, i guess maybe rails is launching a new process in there somewhere
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<crankharder> it kinda feels like ruby's native Coverage is excluding certain files
<crankharder> app/classes/calendar_week.rb
<crankharder> in that example... why isn't "app/classes/calendar_week.rb" included in the list of covered files?
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<headius> drbrain: rdoc not support 2.1.1 yet in 4.1.1?
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<minim> So != seems the converse of equal? ... I'm wondering if there's a converse to eql?
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<drbrain> headius: I am unsure, I think it should work
<drbrain> minim: equal? is by object identity, eql? is for Hash, == and != are opposites
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<headius> I'm getting "Your ruby version 2.1.2 is not supported, only 1.8.7, 1.9.2, 1.9.3, 2.0.0"
<headius> 2.1.2 = jruby master compat version right now
<drbrain> minim: you probably never want to use eql?, only equal? or ==
<drbrain> headius: for rdoc-dat?
<headius> running rdoc-data
<headius> yeah
<drbrain> rdoc-data?
<eam> ruby does some very interesting parsing of the first line of a source file
<drbrain> oh, yeah, I should regenerate
<drbrain> headius: can you file a bug?
<headius> sure
<minim> drbrain: Thanks.
<drbrain> minim: … or !=
<headius> I don't need it, I just happened to notice
<drbrain> headius: thanks!
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<eam> is it really necessary to parse the first comment, see if it's a shebang, and refuse to run unless somewhere the string "ruby" is matched?
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<eam> I don't see the point of this
<drbrain> eam: its from perl, IIRC
<drbrain> perl refuses to run scripts with the incorrect #!
<eam> yeah, I recognize the behavior, just wondering if it makes sense for ruby
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<drbrain> eam: nobody has touched that line since Sept 2006
<eam> haha :D
<drbrain> so, probably back in 2006, but maybe not now
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<eam> actually stumbled into this trying to reproduce the old perl -x re-exec magic, to see if ruby could do it
<drbrain> line 1644 (line_start++) is from 1998, "Initial revision"
<eam> and -x seems buggy with ruby
<eam> haven't gotten into what in particular is the bug yet, though
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<eam> it occurs to me that this is probably just a boobytrap at this point
<drbrain> hehe
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<bougyman> anyone in DFW?
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<wallerdev> my brother lives out there
<bougyman> is he a ruby dev?
<wallerdev> no hes a fashion designer
<bougyman> doesn't help us
<bougyman> we're looking for a dev here.
<wallerdev> for work?
<bougyman> yep
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<wallerdev> is there a big tech scene there these days
<bougyman> always
<wallerdev> i think i heard it was growing but not sure what the current situation is
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<bougyman> 1/2 the time we schedule someone to interview, they have a job before they ever interview with us
<wallerdev> well that's not good
<bougyman> not for us, certainly
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<wallerdev> what companies are there? any specific industries?
<bougyman> name it.
<bougyman> lots of oil n gas, plenty of financials, distribution
<bougyman> DFW has nearly as many Fortune 500 HQ as NYC does, not
<bougyman> *now.
<wallerdev> yeah NYC is like 90% finance though haha
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<bougyman> the difference is, you can get the same pay in DFW as you get in NYC.
<bougyman> but the cost of living is like 50% of NYC (or less)
<eam> same pay? that surprises me
<drbrain> probably 25–33% NYC
<bougyman> drbrain: cost of living?
<bougyman> no way
<drbrain> unless you're living way outside of Manhattan
<bougyman> oh right, i read that wrong.
<bougyman> eam: tis true.
<eam> bougyman: I've talked to a lot of tx imports to silicon valley and while anecdotal, they were paid much less out there
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<bougyman> eam: silicon valley pays more than NYC
<eam> oh really
<drbrain> when cost of living goes down pay usually goes down too
<bougyman> for a devops lead, I was offered 125k in NYC, 135k in DFW, and 210K in Silicon Valley.
<drbrain> because your dollars buy more
<bougyman> very similar positions and companies.
<bougyman> for Security Architect, it was pretty much the same ratio.
<eam> drbrain: except silicon valley is stupid cheap compared to NYC :)
<bougyman> Silicon Valley isn't cheap.
<bougyman> a flat in Silicon Valley is about the same as a flat in Manhatten.
<eam> sure it is. SF is expensive, but San Jose is real inexpensive
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<eam> you're thinking of SF
<bougyman> well yeah, but who wants to live in San Jose?
<eam> which is about an hour away from SV
<drbrain> ↑ yup
<eam> bougyman: most of the people here do :)
<eam> SF is teeny tiny
<eam> they just talk a lot about themselves ;-)
<bougyman> I was thinking closer to pao alto
<bougyman> *palo
<eam> sure, you need $5m for a shack in Atherton, but if you want to just live in a decent place there are a ton of options
<wallerdev> you can always live in oakland
<bougyman> in DFW my payment is $691/month on a 3100 sq foot house with 1/2 acre of land.
<wallerdev> :p
<bougyman> built in 2001 (I built it)
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<darix> learn metric units!:p
<eam> bougyman: sounds like you have equity
<eam> what's the actual monthly, fully financed?
<bougyman> $691
<bougyman> it was $142k to build
<bougyman> it's worth more now, but that's what it cost in 2001.
<eam> yeah I mean what's the FMV
<eam> anything from 2001 is going to be super inexpensive
<wallerdev> haha that's so much space, i have no idea what id do with that
<wallerdev> my apartment is like 430 sqft
<eam> bougyman: I rent out a place in sunnyvale and my mortgage is also under 1k
<eam> but that's meaningless because like you I've owned for a long time
<eam> I rent it for 2k/mo :P
<bougyman> if i built it today it'd be like $210k
<bougyman> still wouldn't be over $1k/month mortgage
<wallerdev> wasnt it like over 100 for a month there though
<eam> wow, dfw is extremely cheap
<bougyman> indeed
<eam> looks like extreme variance based on neighborhoods though
<eam> bad areas?
<bougyman> oh sure, as in anywhere.
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<eam> well, if we look at richmond or east palo alto prices
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