apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim || Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<zenspider> gah. I can't imagine coding a gui, let alone coding it in Qt. that looks horrible
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<wallerdev> ruby is awkward for gui apps
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<zenspider> Qt is awkward for gui apps. that paste is gross
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<whitequark> zenspider: what's wrong with that paste?
<|jemc|> qt is shifting a good deal of attention toward their QML language, which is actually quite interesting when you dig into it
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<whitequark> |jemc|: you're here as well!
* whitequark . o O ( #zeromq )
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<|jemc|> whitequark: hm?
<|jemc|> oh
<|jemc|> yes, we've been working on some projects using libzmq
<|jemc|> including new ruby wrappings for it
<whitequark> *nod*
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<ponga> got damn it, a bug on Codecademy!?
<ponga> :(
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<jacky> coding a GUI in Qt C++ is just like doing it for Windows
<jacky> relatively straight forward
<jacky> could do it by XML or C++ objects
<jacky> The Python bindings seem to be tighter than Ruby bindings at times
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<whyatt> Hi, I'm trying to install ruby 2.1.1 on cygwin (OS:Windows 7) and when it gets to '#importing gemset /home/Computer/.rvm/gemsets/global.gems' it sits there for hours doing .... could anyone help me? thanks
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<fusillicode> hi guys :)
<fusillicode> Am I alone?
<fusillicode> :(
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<hackeron_> hey, I'm getting the rubocop error "Use Kernel#loop with break rather than begin/end/until or begin/end/while for post-loop tests." but I don't understand the benefits? - Can someone please explain this to me? < http://pastie.org/9074893
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<Lumio> has anyone experience with cinch?
<badeball> Lumio: some. what's up?
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<Lumio> I want to find out how to have multiple matches
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<Lumio> okay, found something in examples :)
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<badeball> that's usually a good place to start. note that cinch has a docs-directory with more information
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<Lumio> thx badeball - I’m just a little unfamiliar with ruby at this time, that’s why I’m struggling to find my way around.
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<Lumio> I’m looking for an easy way to debug my ruby code
<Lumio> what options do I have?
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<badeball> Lumio: what spesifically are you looking? you can go through code step by step using -r debug argument, but that quickly becomes tedious once you load a couple of libraries
<Lumio> I’m looking for something like xdebug or at least something similar to var_dump (as you have with PHP)
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<canton7> 'p' is similar to var_dump
<badeball> you can output variables with puts or p (http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.1/Kernel.html#method-i-p)
<canton7> or you can require 'pp' and use 'pp' to format the output a bit better
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<Honsby> I'm receiving this weird error when I try to assign anything to a variable in pry. "Error: Cannot open "/Users/Honsby/=" for reading." Any ideas?
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<t4nk194> Hello there. What do you guys think about using MRuby as a scripting language for a game engine?
<wallerdev> who will be writing the scripts
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<t4nk194> Whoever is going to use the engine. I'm making it open source, but I'll use it as well.
<wallerdev> i think itd be cool, just not sure about what most game script writeres like to use
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<wallerdev> like i know lua is popular
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<t4nk194> Lua is popular, but Ruby would be really nice.
<t4nk194> Any ideas how I can communicate well with classes in in Java or Objective-C?
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<wallerdev> no idea
<wallerdev> my first guess would just be opening a named pipe or something
<wallerdev> and from there you could use like json or protobuf or something
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<t4nk194> The thing is, I would want to use as little copying as possible.
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<freedrull> am i insane? i *am* passing a block right ? https://gist.github.com/mcfiredrill/22367843b69125444e4e
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<mistym> freedrull: You're passing a block, but does tempfile take a block?
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<badeball> freedrull: does it not spesifically that it does *not* support that?
<freedrull> oh
<freedrull> you're right
<freedrull> -_-
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<t4nk194> Any ideas for using Ruby as a scripting language for a game engine?
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<centrx> t4nk194, mruby could work as you said, or use FFI
<centrx> t4nk194, I wouldn't know what goes into a game engine scripting language
<centrx> t4nk194, Also try #ruby and find a channel devoted to game programming
<t4nk194> Well, just imagine the fact that I have a lot of objects and object lists.
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<centrx> Ruby is good for making domain-specific languages
<t4nk194> I'd like them to get updated through a Ruby script so that the engine from the backend can handle the rest.
<t4nk194> Thing is, it would be really nice to be able to create the object in Ruby and then use the natively without having to do a lot of transfers.
<t4nk194> use it*
<centrx> t4nk194, Probably use the Ruby C interface/FFI to call your native functions for changing objects and lists
<centrx> t4nk194, Or have Ruby run separately, and output a serialization of the object or list that your game engine can understand
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<t4nk194> But outputting is too slow. What I want is to make the engine portable.
<centrx> It only has to do it once, when the program starts, if the Ruby script has changed
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<zanegray> Anyone have any experience with mkmf using c extensions with gems? I am trying to link against a static library but it is being ignored because of the system library include search path is taking precedence.
<zanegray> Or at least I think that is the problem :)
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<zarkzork> I wrote small article about ruby internals http://zarkzork.com/extending-ruby.html . I would love to hear some feedback.
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<whitequark> zarkzork: have you seen rxr.whitequark.org?
<whitequark> it's useful for exploring ruby source.
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<zarkzork> whitequark: no, I have been using CTAGS all the time. But this should be usefull for quick search
<whitequark> zarkzork: talking about the article... I feel like you're sometimes not explaining what happens, but rather just read C code out loud. it's not very useful to the reader
<whitequark> e.g. all the talk about GC at the start of the article implies that the reader already understands well how GC works, or else it would be incomprehensible
<whitequark> it's pretty good overall
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<zarkzork> whitequark: good point, I was thinking if I should to concentrate on GC and Bison more. But from my experience, when ready Ruby source hardest part was to get used to amount of redirects in source. I wanted help reader get used to jump around C looking for required parts.
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<zarkzork> And first draft of article was twice as big, because I was trying to write about deeper parts.
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<zanegray> anyone here with some experience with mkmf? Id like to know why it includes the shared library path before the configured library path.
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